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[Wolfgunblood Garopa]

No, sir. Why would you insist that it would be bizarre?

Why isn't it realistic to go back to a master file (hah.. master.. as in, re-master) and save a higher res shot?

Because they wouldn't just call it a remaster. It would have a lot more new to it if they remade all of the backgrounds. I bet they would have just remade the game in 3D and thrown out the backgrounds if they were going to go to those lengths.

 

[BiggNife]

Well shit, thuway was actually right. Now I look like a doofus.

Never had a chance to play the GC version so I'll probably end up nabbing this on PC.

 

[glottis8]

OMFG YESSSS. Of course this happens after I finally cave and play it on dolphin on my crummy laptop though. Oh well, definitely 100% will buy again to support good RE. I only wish it were coming to vita, too.

I would totally support this on Vita.

 

[hardcastlemccormick]

Did they?

I don't know, what I'm seeing seems right in line with what I would have expected from a 'remaster'.

When movies release a remastered edition, that means they went back, scanned the film again and got a higher-res image.

When music releases a remastered album, that means they went back to the raw files, twiddled their knobs and mixed the audio again. The definition of remaster: "to make a new master audio recording, now usually digital, from (an earlier recording), to produce compact discs or stereo records with improved sound reproduction."

When games release a remastered video game, I expect them to render what they can at higher resolutions, and recreate what they can't. Otherwise, it's a port.

This HD Remaster is basically releasing a DVD copy of a film on Blu-Ray - but before they do, they throw a few filters over the top. Not only is it worse than the original, but it's in no way appropriate to call it a remaster.

Because they wouldn't just call it a remaster. It would have a lot more new to it if they remade all of the backgrounds. I bet they would have just remade the game in 3D and thrown out the backgrounds if they were going to go to those lengths.

The original backgrounds were made using 3D assets. They just need to take a new picture of those.

 

[Freeman]

No, just rerender the backgrounds at native 1080p, nobody is expecting to remodel anything "from scratch"

If they aren't doing it, one would assume they just don't have them anymore.

 

[KingHenrik30]

People don't play every game in existence.

Yeah, gee what was I thinking assuming that a lot of people have played one of the most popular games ever made. I'm such a terrible person. Thanks for pointing that out, hope it made your day.

 

[MasterLeePhD]

Why no Resident Evil 2 Remake? Still, day one for sure

I would love a HD port of RE 2, but capcom ain't going to do it as they'd have to build it from scratch. PlayStation games look real bad now, especially the polygon parts. Easier to take games from the PS2/Dreamcast days, stretch them out and pretend they're HD, lol.

I am still looking forward to this REmake... Remake though.

 

[Lernaean]

Hahah Crapcom actually spending money and resources to create a new HD title hahahhaahahahahhahaha

*cries*

Actually, this is the worst part. There are so many games that could be done, so many games that should be done, and a few announced games that should see release day at some point this decade and Capcom announces this?

I don't care how good it is, it is on my personal top 3-5, i don't care. Capcom should be doing other things by now.

 

[Yoshichan]

I told you to sit down before you started to read everything...

Guys, Yoshi needs a hug!

I feel betrayed ;_________________;!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[ethomaz]

BTW I was expecting RE 1 to 3 in this remaster but I'm happy with only the first one for now

 

[BeberMan]

Will definitely get this for PS3.
Capcom finally announces something exciting.
Next up: Mega Man X9, Viewtiful Joe 3.

 

[Wolfgunblood Garopa]

When movies release a remastered edition, that means they went back, scanned the film again and got a higher-res image.

When music releases a remastered album, that means they went back to the raw files, twiddled their knobs and mixed the audio again. The definition of remaster: "to make a new master audio recording, now usually digital, from (an earlier recording), to produce compact discs or stereo records with improved sound reproduction."

When games release a remastered video game, I expect them to render what they can at higher resolutions, and recreate what they can't. Otherwise, it's a port.

This HD Remaster is basically releasing a DVD copy of a film on Blu-Ray - but before they do, they throw a few filters over the top. Not only is it worse than the original, but it's in no way appropriate to call it a remaster.



The original backgrounds were made using 3D assets. They just need to take a new picture of those.

This is an old game, not an old movie. I get what you're trying to say, but it doesn't apply.

If it were that easy, I'm sure they would go back and redo it. Chances are it's not as simple as a few clicks. There is a game tied to those images.

 

[TheSpaceBetween]

I have no desire to pick this up as I already own it for GC, but it's great that others will get to experience this masterpiece. I hope it sells a fuckton so Capcom will either give us RE2make or a brand new game that emphasizes horror.

 

[Leatherface]

RE:RE:make

 

[hardcastlemccormick]

This is an old game, not an old movie. I get what you're trying to say, but it doesn't apply.

It applies to Final Fantasy X HD. It applies to Ocarina of Time 3D. It applies here.

If Square and Nintendo can do it for even older games than REmake, Capcom sure as hell can.

 

[dralla]

I know :/

Seriously what did the people expect? They redo all the backgrounds of the game from the scratch to 1080p ?!

Stop complaining and let's wait for more footage specially for PS4 / XBOX1.

Why is it so crazy to expect that? It's been how many years since its release? Especially since it's being called a "Remaster", which is deceiving when it's a port. I'd take a $40+ remaster with new assets over a $20 port (assuming it's priced like Code Veronica HD).

 

[Polioliolio]

Because they wouldn't just call it a remaster. It would have a lot more new to it if they remade all of the backgrounds. I bet they would have just remade the game in 3D and thrown out the backgrounds if they were going to go to those lengths.

You're comparing taking an original asset and saving the image at a higher resolution, to remaking the whole thing in 3D from scratch?

That's utterly ridiculous.


The Defense Force is strong w/ this one.

 

[Leon Belmont]

I played RE4 HD and it looked terrible, so I'm not getting my hopes up with Cacpcom.

I always thought the reason REmake and Zero didn't get HD versions were the pre rendered backgrounds and that they no longer have the assets. There's only so much you can do with 4:3 SD backgrounds but I wouldn't have imagined it to look this bad.

I understand your point bro, and maybe the game won't look that great, but I see the good side of this "remake" and is that everyone who couldn't play it on the Gamecube will be able to play it.... just let's hope it doesn't look like crap!

 

[Tain]

I'd be pretty surprised if it were as simple as re-rendering the assets. There's probably a lot of manual touch-up in the final images we see in-game.

Not that doing that sort of touch-up again is unreasonable to ask for or anything, of course.

 

[Ridley327]

This is an old game, not an old movie. I get what you're trying to say, but it doesn't apply.

I don't see why it doesn't. As it was mentioned, Squenix went back and re-did all of the pre-rendered backgrounds in FFX and X-2 for its HD remaster. Why should Capcom get a pass in this case?

 

[Amentallica]

How many people do you think they stuck to do this "remaster"? How many people does a remaster usually take?

 

[Lashley]

Sigh

 

[Hoje0308]

Is there no 3D option planned for this? The atmosphere and perspective make this an ideal candidate for that kind of display. Is there an issue with the pre-rendered backgrounds or is Capcom just being Capcom?

 

[glottis8]

So what is a fair price for this? 20 bucks?

 

[Wolfgunblood Garopa]

I don't see why it doesn't. As it was mentioned, Squenix went back and re-did all of the pre-rendered backgrounds in FFX and X-2 for its HD remaster. Why should Capcom get a pass in this case?

I'm sure SE's budget was proportional to redoing whatever they could.

 

[angular graphics]

Is there no 3D option planned for this? The atmosphere and perspective make this an ideal candidate for that kind of display. Is there an issue with the pre-rendered backgrounds or is Capcom just being Capcom?

That.

 

[ElectricKaibutsu]

Yay!

Wait, what?

Aw

 

[lyrick]

When movies release a remastered edition, that means they went back, scanned the film again and got a higher-res image.

When music releases a remastered album, that means they went back to the raw files, twiddled their knobs and mixed the audio again. The definition of remaster: "to make a new master audio recording, now usually digital, from (an earlier recording), to produce compact discs or stereo records with improved sound reproduction."

When games release a remastered video game, I expect them to render what they can at higher resolutions, and recreate what they can't. Otherwise, it's a port.

This HD Remaster is basically releasing a DVD copy of a film on Blu-Ray - but before they do, they throw a few filters over the top. Not only is it worse than the original, but it's in no way appropriate to call it a remaster.

Upscaling, filtering and cropping the image does not suggest remaster to me.

Maybe it's time for an industry governing body to standardize the marketing behind these kind of things.

 

[Gonzo The Great]

Would it have killed them to release this on the Wii U? I was under the impression that Revelations sold well.

 

[Blueblur1]

I know :/

Seriously what did the people expect? They redo all the backgrounds of the game from the scratch to 1080p ?!

Stop complaining and let's wait for more footage specially for PS4 / XBOX1.

It's less about expectations and more about desires. Some of us desire a re-release of this game with a hefty makeover; one that I could say that I'd pay $60 for.

 

[DieH@rd]

All this talk about quality of the visuals is so unnecessary [especially since the screens are supposedly from oldgen 720p versions]. We are getting a god tier game on new consoles, and tons of people who never had Gamecube [god knows how shitty the sales of it were] and new generations of players will be able to experience it in best possible way.

I am very interested to play it.

 

[mattp]

This is an old game, not an old movie. I get what you're trying to say, but it doesn't apply.

If it were that easy, I'm sure they would go back and redo it. Chances are it's not as simple as a few clicks. There is a game tied to those images.

nobody said it was easy
they're saying don't call this a remaster or remake. because it's not
it's a port. which is perfectly fine. but calling it remaster implies certain things and lets them charge more money

 

[w00zey]

I'd be down for a remake not a remaster.


Oh wait it is a port. nevermind. Already played the og and the remake.

 

[Seik]

I feel betrayed ;_________________;!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hahaha, GAF can both be such a great place, full of hype most of the times, sometimes though the people's reactions to something that is an overall good news is disappointing.

 

[Ridley327]

How many people do you think they stuck to do this "remaster"? How many people does a remaster usually take?

Nearly every HD remaster is farmed out to a third party studio, so in a lot of cases, they're not even taking development staff away from the original studio. There are three big recent exceptions, though: FFX/X-2 HD, Wind Waker HD and TLOU Remastered were both in-house, but those had some pretty significant amount of work done to them, including gameplay rebalancing and generating new assets.

 

[SlasherJPC]

People that hate the new style of RE really better buy this to give Capcom a message. Perhaps this will lead to better things.

 

[hwy_61]

If this is as good as FFX HD I'd be happy.

 

[JetSetRadio]

Would it have killed them to release this on the Wii U? I was under the impression that Revelations sold well.

It sold like shit.

 

[mao2]

Nice. Hopefully this does well so Capcom will remake Resident Evil 2 and 3.

 

[Ridley327]

I'm sure SE's budget was proportional to redoing whatever they could.

So Capcom is OK to spend relative pennies in comparison? This is a game that is immensely dependent on its visuals, and a subpar presentation like we're seeing here is simply inexcusable.

 

[ArkkAngel007]

Actually, this is the worst part. There are so many games that could be done, so many games that should be done, and a few announced games that should see release day at some point this decade and Capcom announces this?

I don't care how good it is, it is on my personal top 3-5, i don't care. Capcom should be doing other things by now.

GAF never fails to entertain on how knowledgable their user base claims to be, but then says narrow (but understandable) things like this.

This is a low risk attempt to see how a game like this will do as a multi platform release, with the benefits of tapping into the remaster market in the barest way possible without doing a straight port.

To them, it's [hopefully] easy profit and self-rewarding research.

 

[amar212]

Maybe it's time for an industry governing body to standardize the marketing behind these kind of things.

HAHAHA

And which one would that be?

United Nations Gaming Association - UNGA?

Or Fédération Mondiale des Jeux Vidéo - FMJV?

 

[evangd007]

Exactly, people should stop whinig!
Ohhh...look, we get to play one of the greatest games ever made without having do emulate it or buying a 15 year old console from ebay that barely works. BUT the graphics is not as good as todays games

First of all...screenshots says nothing.

Second of all WHO CARES

I literally just bought this game for the Wii for $15. It works on the Wii U.

And judging by these screens, that may as well be the definitive version.

 

[Jessie.Bristol]

All this talk about quality of the visuals is so unnecessary [especially since the screens are supposedly from oldgen 720p versions]. We are getting a god tier game on new consoles, and tons of people who never had Gamecube [god knows how shitty the sales of it were] and new generations of players will be able to experience it in best possible way.

I am very interested to play it.

If the screens are indeed from the Xbox 360/PlayStation 3 version, then I am very intrigued to see how the Xbox One/PS4 versions look.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

Honestly, I'm being optimistic and waiting for the full release or full on game play videos at least. I want to see it in action before we take screenshots and condemn the piss out of it.

 

[lyrick]

Would it have killed them to release this on the Wii U? I was under the impression that Revelations sold well.

There's no need

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00269DXXO/?tag=neogaf0e-20

There's already an uncropped, non filtered version with character shadows.

 

[Zombie James]

This is the weakest shit ever.

Ugh, lame. Come on, Capcom, don't waste this opportunity.

 

[hwy_61]

I literally just bought this game for the Wii for $15. It works on the Wii U.

And judging by these screens, that may as well be the definitive version.

There was a wii port of REmake?

 

[Host Samurai]

Awesome. Been wanting to replay this for the 10th time but my GC is lost and my Wii broke. Day 1

 

[Ridley327]

If the screens are indeed from the Xbox 360/PlayStation 3 version, then I am very intrigued to see how the Xbox One/PS4 versions look.

Save the 16:9 screens, and zoom in with your photo viewer so that it fills your screen. Voila, exclusive first look at those version!