Bobby Roberts
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You mean no one died when that giant worm thing collapsed on those buildings?
NOPE! Captain America did... something.
You mean no one died when that giant worm thing collapsed on those buildings?
None of them would have been able to stop the world engine.
I like the Avengers and all, but considering Faora could kill half the team within seconds this is not fair fight.
The gravitational pressure would destroy him and his suit.
He's telekinetic.
Doesn't need to be in the suit to pilot it.
Thor is strong but slow. They would just run circles around him. Hulk is the only one that can probably knock out a tooth. They can just fly around him wrap him up and toss him into the sun. Fight over.
Now if it's straight up one on one. Not sure if zod can take on the hulk alone.
SHIELD hasHow would SHIELD take out the world machine? Nothing they have could withstand the gravitational pull the thing was exhibiting. Only Thor would have a chance, since he's the most comparable to Superman. But there still hasn't been anything in the three movies that really showcases his actual strength comparable to Superman.
NOPE! Captain America did... something.
Thor isn't slow at all. Both Thor and Hulk have reflexes that scale right along with their strength level.
Keep in mind also that Thor is much, much better at flying than that whole crew is with the exception of Zod in the last 5 to 10 minutes of man of steel. None of the rest of them are going to be able to handle an asgardian who has several thousand years of flight combat experience.
edit: then there's this:
What? There isn't a single feat in the MCU that comes close to what Faora did to Superman and the Soldiers in Smallville and the scale of Zod vs Superman. Snyder took "invulnerability" to its logical conclusion. Even after their battle, Zod and Supes had ZERO scratches on them. What the fuck is Movie! Thor going to do against that kind of durability when aliens make him visibly tired and he shows battle damage?
It seems to me that Thor is at the same power level as the Kryptonians (basically indestructible, just a different power set) and Hulk is even stronger than that, so I can see Thor, Hulk and a properly suited up Tony Stark being able to hold their own. Avengers Cap, Black Widow and Hawkeye are toast within minutes. I think the existence of Hulk means that yeah, in the end Avengers stop the invasion.
Kryptonians are weak against magic, so Thor will have a big advantage.
Of course the MCU Avengers can stop Zod and his crew from Mos it just depends on who is writing. It is not like Zod and his crew are all superman prime. They cannot even fly and have trouble adapting to earth if their helmets get broken. .
Well, here is how I would write it. Zod and co. come to Earth, believe it to be a good place to settle, arrive undetected and begin the world engine machine straight away, only it is placed in an out of the way area, and is undetected. Shield notices some unusual atmosphere shit is going on and sends Hawkeye to investigate. He rolls up and gets a bead on the Zod army with their world engine (it would be a considerably less violent world engine). A couple of the grunts notice Hawkeye and give chase, Hawkeye is able to take off on his flying motorcycle thing and the Zod army (who haven't figured out flight yet) pursue on foot at super speed. Hawkeye calls for reinforcements and Cap shows up and gets a serious beatdown. Hawkeye is shooting his trick arrows and cap is throwing his shield, but they just can't match the speed and strength of these Kryptonians. They both retreat and are able to get away, but Zod is now aware of the superheros. He decides to launch an offensive to lure them out. And attack the nearest major city. He is forced to push up his time table, as he wanted to have altered the atmosphere considerably more before launching his offensive (enough that people were getting sick from unknown causes by the millions). He is able to quickly conquer and subjugate the nearest major population center (I don't know where somewhere not in the states, and not often used in films). He sets this up as his capital while Shield is trying to wrangle in the Avengers. And the worlds military converges. For whatever reason assembling the team again is difficult. Stark and Bruce are put to work trying to figure out a weakness, but without any data to go on they are getting nowhere. Meanwhile Thor and Cap are attempting to oust Zod from his earthly seat of power, and are getting stopped at all fronts, and Hawkeye and Widow are trying to get close enough to the world engine to destroy it. After the unsuccessful attempts of all three teams they regroup, beaten and bloody. However Thor was able to wound somebody and Bruce picks up on an interesting reaction. When he is nearby the blood on Thor's hammer begins to reverberate ever so slightly. You see, the green of kryptonite and the green of the hulk are both the result of gamma radiation (forget the fact that Gamma radiation is invisible for a minute). They do some research and find that (although the energy that the Hulk releases is the wrong frequency to have a major effect) a targeted Gamma ray bomb of the proper frequency could temporarily weaken the ever stronger Kryptonians. So now the goal is to get the entire Kryptonian army together in one place and all within range of the bomb. The final action scene would be the Avengers team fighting off the Kryptonians as best as they can while trying to corral them while Hulk plays the running back with the gamma bomb. They are able to destroy the world engine and de-power and trap everybody in a gamma field except Zod (who has learned how to fly and gets out of there just in time). The entire team confronts him and eventually after a hard fight Zod goes down. Maybe at some point Thor goes down for the count, and Cap picks up Thor's hammer and with it the power of the thunderer.
Does Kryptonite even exist in MoSverse?
They kind of skirted around it with the whole "atmosphere" thing.
Thor isn't slow at all. Both Thor and Hulk have reflexes that scale right along with their strength level.
Keep in mind also that Thor is much, much better at flying than that whole crew is with the exception of Zod in the last 5 to 10 minutes of man of steel. None of the rest of them are going to be able to handle an asgardian who has several thousand years of flight combat experience.
edit: then there's this:
Zod adapted to Earth in a matter of days.
Whatever tech SHIELD has, the Kryptonian tech is probably better as they are a more advanced race.
TWS Cap over TDK Bats is as obvious as MoS Kryptonians over MCU Avengers.
Kryptonians are weak against magic, so Thor will have a big advantage.
Compared to Kyrptonians? The Thor movies are foggy but i don't remember any light speed fighting. Not saying he can't do it but i don't think it's been a proven ability in the movies at least.
Also, unless I'm mistaken
They aren't weak to magic, they aren't immune to magic.
To use Pokemon, it's not 2X damage from magic, it's just Normal damage.
Where physical attacks are like 1/2X damage
Zod in MoS was born to be a warrior, after a few rounds with Hulk he would realize I can't put him down, gonna throw this fucker into Space, IMO i can't see Avengers stopping Zod and his soldiers..
The Avengers would probably take it, but it would be a drawn-out and casualty heavy battle.
What often makes Lex a threat is what he does to everyone else. Using kryptonite is weak sauce for LexIt's the thing that makes Lex even remotely threatening to Supes, and he's in the next film, so I'm gonna say "probably".
You throw Hulk into space, he's just gonna come back madder and stronger.
lol Zod, Faora and 'Non' would hover above Earth and take turns heat vision-ing Hulk.Zod in MoS was born to be a warrior, after a few rounds with Hulk he would realize I can't put him down, gonna throw this fucker into Space, IMO i can't see Avengers stopping Zod and his soldiers..
What often makes Lex a threat is what he does to everyone else. Using kryptonite is weak sauce for Lex
shield tech is powered by magic tho
The kryptonians weren't going "light speed" either. Fast, yes. light speed, no. Thor is about as fast as the plot requires, and throws lightning around when he's pissed off. No one is blitzing thor here.
Aren't Hulk and Thor both generally considered to be stronger than Superman?
Yeah, Avengers easily.
I think you are overselling Thor, he hasn't look as impressive in his movies as the kryptonians did in MoS battle-wise.
Nothing that would make me go right now "Zod and his goons would have problems with this guy"
Hulk is the only guy that could give Zod problems, but that's just one guy and Zod has maybe 5 o 6 guys with comparable strength to Superman. I think in the end Zod's crew takes this.
none of the MOS kryptonians were "Throw someone into space" strong anyway.
Of course the MCU Avengers can stop Zod and his crew from Mos it just depends on who is writing. It is not like Zod and his crew are all superman prime. They cannot even fly and have trouble adapting to earth if their helmets get broken. .
Thor isn't slow at all. Both Thor and Hulk have reflexes that scale right along with their strength level.
Keep in mind also that Thor is much, much better at flying than that whole crew is with the exception of Zod in the last 5 to 10 minutes of man of steel. None of the rest of them are going to be able to handle an asgardian who has several thousand years of flight combat experience.