Not even close to being the same thing.
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Rise of the Tomb Raider timed Xbox exclusive for Holiday 2015 (No PS/PC, SE publish)
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Not even close to being the same thing.
Pankratous
Member
I don't understand why you'd laugh. His post is completely rational. Nobody should want to support this. Millions of fans are now disappointed.
okay so I own every 7th gen console and a ps4 (and the One will be here with sunset overdrive), played tomb raider on 360 and liked it alot. Uncharted (any of them) was still the better game.
fusion frenzy 2 was a great game
Just because of the new title doesn´t mean this is not basically Dark Souls III
Pretty much.
Barry Burton
Member
Like the RE exclusivity on Dreamcast and later, GameCube, this is probably not a smart decision long-term for overall brand strength for the Tomb Raider franchise.
In any event, the Tomb Raider reboot was a very disappointing game, so it's not like this news really impacts me much at all. I would only be interested in the game if it looks to be a much different and much-improved product over its predecessor, and the jury is still out on that front (though I doubt it changes much since the transition to straight-forward shooter was popularly received).
Still, sucks for those who liked the last game and were looking forward to playing it on PC/Playstation.
In any event, the Tomb Raider reboot was a very disappointing game, so it's not like this news really impacts me much at all. I would only be interested in the game if it looks to be a much different and much-improved product over its predecessor, and the jury is still out on that front (though I doubt it changes much since the transition to straight-forward shooter was popularly received).
Still, sucks for those who liked the last game and were looking forward to playing it on PC/Playstation.
Yeah I think this nails it. I can't even think of 3rd party exclusives Sony buys... Bloodborne perhaps, but it seems they own the IP and just paying From Software to make it if I'm right? Other than that, they only have like exclusive content for 3rd party games, (Which I'm not too fond of either), but beats whats Xbox has done here.
Maybe if Rise of the Tomb Raider wasnt announced to be multi-plat before, it wouldnt be as big as a deal, though seeing they released TR on PS3/360/PC before and they released TR
E for PS4/X1, I think people would still reach the conclusion they were paid to keep the game off other platforms.Because maybe people who enjoy that genre of games buys a Playstation to play that genre of games since Sony has a first party studio making them.
This feels like MS attempting to force the hand of Uncharted genre fans to also buy an XBO, but it seems like a dumb idea. Especially if it's timed exclusive. PS owners will simply play UC4 instead and wait for the TR release.
You're illustrating your ignorance. This situation is nothing like a typical exclusive.
Plus they get guaranteed aggressive marketing budget from MS.
Are you surprised? If Tomb Raider had a community, it was on PC and PlayStation. That is where it started, especially the PC.
Going full exclusive was pretty expensive for Microsoft I assume.
Winter John
Gold Member
Not too happy if it is exclusive to Xbox. Although I like the look of that white Xbox console, it was pretty smart, and there's the Halo collection I guess, but having to pay for a new console and run two subscriptions? This is all very triggering.
shinobi602
Member
The only example that comes to mind is Everybody's Gone to the Rapture, and there was definitely some outcry with that as it was announced and unveiled as a PC + PS4 title.
Not quite. That thread was on a whole different level of insanity. Its been surprisingly civil in here in comparison. Also, I seriously doubt tomb raider was in any danger of not being made in comparison to bayo 2.
Probably timed. Lots of weird stressing of 2015 everywhere. If it is timed, it's kind of a dick move to spin it like that and then later down the road say 'OH HAY WE NEVER SAID IT WAS ACTUALLY EXCLUSIVE JUST EXCLUSIVE 2015 LOLOLOL' and expect that to be okay.
If it is full on exclusive, good move by MS.
If it is full on exclusive, good move by MS.
WrenchNinja
Member
Yes, we did. Didn't stop people from losing their minds but yeah, we did.
googleplex
Member
Developers computers harddives and office space got fucked up in a flood. Sony stepped up and helped with funding, and that game is STILL COMING TO PC AND XBONE.
see the difference?
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
Member
just woke up to this news, i hope someone did the "shame and honor" version of this!
megaton indeed
megaton indeed
Still though. You don't make a NEW franchise successful by keeping on one platform. Especially a platform that's not selling as well as the other. Why would you fuck over the people that played the first game?
How do we know MS didn't have some hand in development?
Dragonborn
Member
What I die game did they moneyhat? Please, do tell. All I can think of is Rapture, which rhey are fully funding and helping with.
And with how much the previous episode sold there's no way it's not a timed exclusive.
Microsoft should really get some more internal studios so they don't have to pull meaningless stuff like this. And we would be getting some games.
MasterForm
Member
If they think that tomb raider has system selling potential, then they are sorely mistaken.
I take offense to that letter to the fans, though. We're not stupid.
I take offense to that letter to the fans, though. We're not stupid.
Lord of Castamere
Member
Well, I mean to be fair the fire started last night when RW died. We've just been too sad to put it out.
When I don't own either a PS4 or a Xbox One it's the exclusives that I look at when I'm looking to make a purchase. Tomb Raider on it's own isn't going to get me but it adds to the whole package. If I were a fan of Tomb Raider without an Xbone though I would get pretty upset as well.
=P
Comparing Persona to Tomb Raider? Plus it's not like Sony or Nintendo pays them to keep Persona off other consoles. They are smaller company with a niche demographic, so it makes sense to publish it strategically where the fan base is at. As they don't have the financial weight to take risks. I can't say the same for a AAA franchise. Plus the key being here that MS is paying to keep it from others.
That's why I think it's fucked. I own and X1 and i won't support that.
It seems that maybe the devs asked Sony for help and Sony said nope (not expecting that Microsoft would make it exclusive)
Thanks!
I think they've said PC but never mentioned Xbox one so far. Quite possible that it will never get there
Bloodborne is Sony/From making a new IP instead of calling the game Demon's Souls 2.
TR is a multiplat game that was shown at the Sony conference at E3 and was expected to be everywhere as per usual.
PC fans are probably the most screwed over in this since they have nothing to do with console wars.
travisbickle
Member
Alright mate, calm down you don't want to say something you'll regret!
Umm are you serious? Firstly, indies aren't nearly as big and important as AAA games, and secondly, the big problem is that this is the sequel to a game that was on other platforms.
BronsonLee
Member
Steve Youngblood
Member
I have a question, Darrell Gallagher. It's all well and good that you're trying to assuage PC and PlayStation fans here in light of this move, but what about the Wii U?! You couldn't even be bothered to consider Nintendo at all in your message about supporting other platforms!
RandyBobandy
Banned
Is this the return of third party exclusives?
Citizen_Insane
Member
Thought of that as soon as the announcement. I wonder why they didn't just say it was exclusive back at E3? The trailer for the game was at the Microsoft conference anyway. Maybe the deal wasn't finalized?
I don't think it's unreasonable to surmise that RotTR was unviable before Microsoft stepped in, given all the rhetoric about how they didn't meet expectations until quite late on, and there's no option to rerelease as a Definitive Edition this time around.
In one of the recent threads about "Why are you opposed to remasters", I said that I wasn't opposed to remasters in themselves, but I felt they were indicative of a greater problem with funding, budgeting, and producing games within reasonable timescales. This could be construed as the next stage of that process.
SolidSnakex
Member
The mod there is in a bad situation because it's the main talking point right now, but he's also in very close contact with Crystal Dynamics. I'm not really sure what he's going to do. Because that conversation is just bleeding into the General conversation thread about it now.