loganclaws
Plane Escape Torment
Game is excellent. Risen is back.
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Risen 3: Titan Lords |OT| The magic is back
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KCroxtonJr
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Ok both of you have Intel, I have a FX 8350, was just checking to make sure it wasn't an AMD issue.
I doubt it, happens to me even with mouse and keyboard (although it's harder to notice because of how quick you can make movements with a mouse), and since you actually have to switch control types in the options I don't think the controller code affects the mouse and keyboard code. I've also tried a standard wired 360 controller and a DS3 with better DS3, didn't really see a difference.
HoopzBarkley
Member
I really want to get this, reading some impressions from here has swayed me.
KCroxtonJr
Member
IIRC, moving the left stick directly forward, slightly OR all the way, and rotating the camera caused no issues for me. The only time the camera would start to judder is if i rotated the character AND the stick at the same time. Seemed like the character rotation was disrupting the camera rotation.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
I didn't like Risen 2. Will I like this?
Nevermind -- got it! Time to set sail!
Moff
Member
that depends what exactly you didnt like about risen 2.
it still looks and feels like risen 2, but they have listend and improved/changed pretty much everything people complained about in risen 2.
its certainly is the much better "gothic" style game and generally the better game than risen 2.
were you able to solve it completely? I found out it wa sebastiano, but I couldnt to anything, not arrest him, not killm him, the quest just disappeared after solving the case.
Like you, I wasn't able to solve it completely but I did get the "quest success" and the + glory. I found Sebastiano's sword fragment in a chest near Rodriguez and captured Sebastiano's bounty for Di Fuego in his chest (which I got by climbing the roof at midnight and jumping in the balcony 
) I confronted him, he kicked me out and I went on my merry way.
) I confronted him, he kicked me out and I went on my merry way.but now I have SNEAK! The power of SNEAK!!!!
Moff
Member
Like you, I wasn't able to solve it completely but I did get the "quest success" and the + glory. I found Sebastiano's sword fragment in a chest near Rodriguez and captured Sebastiano's bounty for Di Fuego in his chest (which I got by climbing the roof at midnight and jumping in the balcony
its just a weird and unsatisfying ending, I guess there will be a follow up to that later.
Moff
Member
Eurogamer 6/10
I love how the verdict says the complete opposite of IGN. terrible combat/great deep RPG otherwise. while IGN said combat is great and everything else is bad.
thats piranha bytes right there.
thats piranha bytes right there.
Played a bit of this last night - started getting into it more the more I played. The jank is definitely present, and the voice acting is really bad which kind of takes me out of it abit. In fact the jank is worse than Bound By Flame which I'm playing at the moment, but have grown quite fond of that also as I've played more.
I want to finish up Bound By Flame first then I'll dedicate my RPG'ing time to Risen Hoping to finish it this weekend. But my early impressions are fairly promising, as long as you can handle the jank.
I want to finish up Bound By Flame first then I'll dedicate my RPG'ing time to Risen
Hoping to finish it this weekend. But my early impressions are fairly promising, as long as you can handle the jank.Played a bit, liking it a lot so far.
Too early to say much about the gameplay, but It's quite an accomplished game technically. Some tweaking tips:
Too early to say much about the gameplay, but It's quite an accomplished game technically. Some tweaking tips:
- You can replace SSAOQuality="3" in the ConfigDefault.xml file with SSAOQuality="4" to access an undocumented AO mode. It's much better in pretty much every way compared to the default, so I don't know why it's not accessible in the menu.
- The default AA in the game is FXAA. SGSSAA works perfectly with NV cards, but I can't afford it at 1440p.
- Use GeDoSaTo to inject HQ SMAA (not affecting the HUD!) and/or downsample and toggle the HUD.
It's actually weirdly involved with the plot of Risen 2. Lot of returning characters.
That being said, most of the actual story was kind of forgettable, so you'll probably be fine.
You can also bump up the Shadow Map from the .ini.
Just change the TerrainShadowMapSize="2048" - DetailShadowMapSize="2048" to TerrainShadowMapSize="4096" - DetailShadowMapSize="4096"
Here's a comparison:
2048 Shadow Map:
4096 Shadow Map:
cleveridea
Member
Can anyone comment on how the 3 factions change your gameplay abilities?
For example, how does crystal magic feel differ from voodoo.
Also, is Demon Hunter purely a soldier/warrior class or do they also get interesting/spell like abilities?
For example, how does crystal magic feel differ from voodoo.
Also, is Demon Hunter purely a soldier/warrior class or do they also get interesting/spell like abilities?
Demon Hunter gets summons, guardians are more offensive based magic (fireballs and whatnot) and Voodoo is more oriented toward status effects, though I think they all get some basic offensive stuff too. They also have various utility spells specific to their factions. Like Guardians get Rust, which breaks any lock. But there's also a lot of spell scrolls to find (or voodoo dolls) that'll let you use the other factions abilities, which can also offer as sort of a taste.
loganclaws
Plane Escape Torment
Spoiler about an npc you get on the tutorial island:
Ok I just googled, seems I was wrong!
This character Bones, he was in Risen 2, but I could swear he was black! Am I going crazy?
Ok I just googled, seems I was wrong!
loganclaws
Plane Escape Torment
Yes! My only complaint so far!
Moff
Member
all factions can be played as melee, ranged or caster
guardians have some exclusive casting perks, voodoo has exklusice melee perks
the all have at least one spammable attack spell
they all have many exclusive spells
you can "master" your factions spells which means you can cast them as often as you like withhout any cost, only a cooldown
but the great thing is that you can still buy and even craft all the spells from the other factions.
guardians have some exclusive casting perks, voodoo has exklusice melee perks
the all have at least one spammable attack spell
they all have many exclusive spells
you can "master" your factions spells which means you can cast them as often as you like withhout any cost, only a cooldown
but the great thing is that you can still buy and even craft all the spells from the other factions.
Whoever designed quest log in this game is total moron. I saved some guy in Antigua storage, he told me about crystals I need to find, got pop up: Quest - Crystals in the warehouse. I go into log book and there is no such quest there. This whole journal is a mess, too. I got there some quests I didn't even pick up. Completely retarded.
Moff
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you will get the quest if you accidentaly kill an enemy or pick up an item that belongs to that quest. and since there are really tons of quests, that can happen a lot.
about the quest you didnt find in the log, it might not be in the antigua section of the log but in one of the main quest section on the top of the log.
Denton
Member
I haven't used GeDoSaTo yet, but considering I play on plasma and this game has terrible HUD, how does the toggle work ? Can I simply disable/enable it from ingame via some hotkey or something ? Thanks.
I had a hard time with battles until I found out that dodge both gives you tons of invincibility frames and can let you cancel out of any attack windup/animation.
Now it's pretty fun, if a bit spastic.
Now it's pretty fun, if a bit spastic.
Yes. And you can bind that key to the keyboard or any Xinput gamepad button.
Jag
Member
Dodge is great until you need to attack again which is usually when they hit me.
Joe and his rage at Risen 3 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oXXA3WRNX4&list=UUsgv2QHkT2ljEixyulzOnUQ
Otherwise i like Joe and his reviews and opinions, but man, he can't play shit when it comes to harder RPG's than Oblivion/Skyrim.. yes, we all know that the combat system in Risen games is the worst part of them, but even for me, as a newcomer to Risen series, R3 combat system isn't as bad or hard as Joe is trying to show.. he sucks at Dark Souls, he sucks at Witcher 2 and he sucks at Risen games.. i know that the past Risen games have even worse combat system than R3, but seeing him playing so bad Risen 3, oh god..
Otherwise i like Joe and his reviews and opinions, but man, he can't play shit when it comes to harder RPG's than Oblivion/Skyrim.. yes, we all know that the combat system in Risen games is the worst part of them, but even for me, as a newcomer to Risen series, R3 combat system isn't as bad or hard as Joe is trying to show.. he sucks at Dark Souls, he sucks at Witcher 2 and he sucks at Risen games.. i know that the past Risen games have even worse combat system than R3, but seeing him playing so bad Risen 3, oh god..
Sithlord77
Banned
Is this game running ok on 360? Or is it like the other two were?
Gamer @ Heart
Member
These games are so janky but I am hooked. Went demon hunters and was happy to learn I still get no coast magic. Healing and summoning at now cost almost breaks it, but that feeling of stomping shit after feeling weak for so long feels great.
I feel so overwhelmed with quests at times.
My only bummer, is that like risen 2, I don't think there is a respect option. Upgrading takes so much glory at the higher levels, that I don't see how I can get the achievements for maxing each stat in more than one play through for each unless you play the entire game not upgrading anything until the very end and saving/quitting. But that would be insane and not fun.
I feel so overwhelmed with quests at times.
My only bummer, is that like risen 2, I don't think there is a respect option. Upgrading takes so much glory at the higher levels, that I don't see how I can get the achievements for maxing each stat in more than one play through for each unless you play the entire game not upgrading anything until the very end and saving/quitting. But that would be insane and not fun.
Gamer @ Heart
Member
Its like the other two. That said, the environments are better than 2, but performance wise it still feels the same.
That same pause after every Gil and pick up is so weird.
Moff
Member
blocking lets you cancel out of an attack, too.
thats actually how its meant to be played, its kinda the contrary from usual battle systems where you block all the time and wait for an opportunity to strike.
in risen 3, you start your attacks and the moment you notice the enemy starts his attack animation, you cancel your attack with blocking. then start your attack again until the enemy is too slow.
charging your attack feels great, too, you dont have to actually charge all the way for a strong attack, you will simply hit harder the longer you charge, so even charging for a short time and releasing will result in more damage. the gameplay is really fluent and fun this way and in many ways the complete opposite of past risen/gothic combat melee systems.
the beast part is the let you fight the same way as a mage, with melee spells, which is absolutely awesome
if you want to roll instead of blocking, I highly recommend to set rolling on the second mouse button, its much more fun whis way. I use it all the time since you cant block as a mage.
Here's my review of Risen 3: Titan Lords, a 4 out of 5: http://www.savingcontent.com/2014/08/15/risen-3-titan-lords-review/
Allnamestakenlol
Member
Well, I broke down and bought it (20% on GMG!), even tho my only experience with the series is about 30 mins playing the first game. So far, I'm enjoying it. It's definitely rough around the edges, but it does a good job of scratching that open world RPG itch. One question, tho. Can you change the voice-over language somehow? Not liking the English actor for the protagonist at all.
Denton
Member
Brilliant, thanks for info.
Yeah I was watching him stream for some 20 minutes. I really like his reviews and interviews and what not, but he is teeeeeerrrrrrible at these games. They get frustrating for him and thus he only sees bad things in them. Such a shame.
theSlacker
Member
Does it use the same map system as the early Gothic games, where you are looking at a real drawn map that someone in the gameworld has made, and need to buy it to even get them? Because if that is the case then I am fine with there not being map interactivity.
Moff
Member
sadly you have all the maps from start, one of a few not understandable design decisions in this game.
Oracle Dragon
Member
Really, is that true? Interesting... I was hesitant on this game due to the complaints about the combat system. But I played the other Risen games and while the combat system was certainly not my favourite aspect, I never had any real issues with it. So if they are actually worse than R3, then probably I won't have any issues here,
Sentenza
Member
Eh, it's actually fine, yes.
The first impression is terrible as it was in Risen 2. Then things start to improve, like they did when you leveled up in R2 but everything feels pretty much the same... And then when you leveled it up enough at some point you start to notice a lot of subtle improvements both in your character's and enemies' movements and patterns that give to the game a quite distinct feeling, which make the combat actually fun at times.
And this just speaking about melee, without even starting to mention those new magic systems that in my opinion are actually cool as fuck.
It didn't even require me to level up to get the hang of the battle system. I'd say it's the best in any PB game yet.
A lack of custom map markers makes sense neither when you see it as a virtual help for the player nor when you see it as an in-game artifact.
Actually, I don't see how it would make sense in that case either. If someone else has drawn the map in-universe, why can't you add your own markers in-universe?
A lack of custom map markers makes sense neither when you see it as a virtual help for the player nor when you see it as an in-game artifact.
The combat system feels fine to me tbh. Obviously early days yet and there's a bit of that low budget jank but you've got plenty of options at your disposal and you need to time your dodges and when to attack carefully. No offense to Joe as I quite like the guy but watching him play that just showed he hadn't got the hang of the combat yet. That's fine but don't dismiss a game due to you being shit at the start. The other big thing is being able to cancel out of any animation so far with a roll, that's a big plus in my book.
I also nearly spat out my coffee at one of my favourite bits of dialogue so far
I also nearly spat out my coffee at one of my favourite bits of dialogue so far
So what the hell happened to you ?
Fuck all really, I just died
Fuck all really, I just died
Sentenza
Member
Well, I could say more or less the same, but in retrospective I regretted what I did.
As in any PB game I started putting all my initial points in social skills, without leveling combat at all.
This obviously gave me an advantage inside quest hubs like towns, wbut what I realized few hours later is that it was making me miserable every time I was fighting. Not because I couldn't win (frankly it's pretty damn easy to survive relying on your companion even when you are a scrub) but because hitting enemies and barely affecting their health bars was BORING.