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Is a Beyond Two Souls re-release for the PS4 a likelihood?

Sotha_Sil

Member
I never played the game on PS3, but I loved Heavy Rain and was very impressed with the B:TS demo. I never had time to get around to Beyond, though.

I would welcome a PS4 release.
 

Axial

Member
Instead of making another one of these interactive movie games, I'd rather have Quantic Dream produce something with more interesting gameplay mechanics.
I'd say it's about damn time for a new OMIKRON game.
 

Dash Kappei

Not actually that important
Considering the game sells NEW for 19EUR (29EUR for the steelbook LE + bonus stuff) and as low as £10 in UK, it'd have to be priced 24.99EUR/$29/£19.99 at the most.
Dunno, I don't see it happening
 

RedAssedApe

Banned
Instead of making another one of these interactive movie games, I'd rather have Quantic Dream produce something with more interesting gameplay mechanics.
I'd say it's about damn time for a new OMIKRON game.

David Cage is making the games he wants to make. Don't think anyone forced him/QD to make the same type of game three times in a row. :\
 

Z3M0G

Member
Heavy Rain would be better, and would gain more from the upgrade. No more screen tearing, etc.

Beyond looked pretty great as is... but it wasn't that good of an experience.
 

JoJoSono

Banned
Don't really see the point honestly. I myself would see no reason to buy it again, it's not a game that gives good reason to replay it. I'm sure many owners feel similar so the sales ceiling is already pretty low. I can't see what the PS4 would really do. Better graphics? Sure, but the game already looks fine and the graphics achieve what the game set out to do. Not like there were any big technical issues either. Also, not like they would make it 60fps. This is a "film" game after all.

So yeah, don't see the point. If it happened cool, but I'd just stick with my PS3 copy.
 
Instead of making another one of these interactive movie games, I'd rather have Quantic Dream produce something with more interesting gameplay mechanics.
I'd say it's about damn time for a new OMIKRON game.
The next game will probably have some more gameplay mechanics going from the rumours, but you shouldn't expect another Omikron. They found their type of game, have success with it and are sticking to it most likely.


Considering the game sells NEW for 19EUR (29EUR for the steelbook LE + bonus stuff) and as low as £10 in UK, it'd have to be priced 24.99EUR/$29/£19.99 at the most.
Dunno, I don't see it happening
Tomb Raider sold for less when it got a remaster at full price. Don't think this will stop any publisher.


Don't really see the point honestly. I myself would see no reason to buy it again, it's not a game that gives good reason to replay it. I'm sure many owners feel similar so the sales ceiling is already pretty low.
It's probably aimed at the 360 people, considering Sony's internal statistic apparently showing a lot of people owning a PS4 who never owned a PS3. Beyond also got caught up in the transition period.
 

TriniTrin

war of titties grampa
I thought Beyond didn't sell well... why would they remake something no one bought? I don't know if that's the case though
 

Hexa

Member
Yes, there's the whole "PS4 can't emulate Ps3 because cell is missing", but:

-if they want, they could ship PS4 with a cell chip

Releasing a $600 console would be suicide. Releasing a $500 console would be not as damaging but they absolutely would not have the lead they do and it overall may have caused major damage to the momentum of the entire generation.
Everything is a financial decision. Not giving away games and consoles for free is a financial decision. Releasing a PS4 with cell would also be an incredibly stupid financial decision.
 

JohnnyFootball

GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Yes, there's the whole "PS4 can't emulate Ps3 because cell is missing", but:

-if they want, they could ship PS4 with a cell chip
-even on PS3 PS2 software emulation was impossible, then each PS2 title on the store comes with an emulator attached, basically

I think that don't allowing PS3 compatibility was more a financial plan, that a technical issue.
The cell is not the only thing the PS4 would need to emulate, you have the split memory system, as well as the nvidia GPU. All of that is radically different than the PS4 architecture.
Not to mention the fact that you bring up PS2 games being emulated on the PS3, which is as bad a comparison I have seen. Since the power needed to emulate PS2 titles doesn't even begin to compare to the power needed to emulate PS3 titles.

To sum it up:
The reason that the PS4 is not BC is a 100% technical reason. Not based on the idea of rereleasing games on PS4.
 

Mononoke

Banned
Well I would love that. I personally enjoyed Beyond Two Souls quite a lot, despite it's incoherent narrative and flawed design. It was a really gorgeous game, and I was actually pretty drawn in to the main character. It had some of the best character/acting in any game I've seen.

I don't really see how the game would benefit.

I would at least want it releases on PS4 (digital). Even if they don't remaster it per se, I just want to be able to play it on my PS4.
 

Hexa

Member
I don't think so, just because if PS3 backward compatibility was a fact, maybe a lot of people just would sell their PS3, paying PS4 the same price of 400$ with PS3 discount. But, at the same time, Sony can sall all Ps3 titles to new PS4 users.

About a third of the PS4 console base as of June was from other consoles. That would take a serious hit if the price was higher.
 
I thought Beyond didn't sell well... why would they remake something no one bought? I don't know if that's the case though
Ask Square Enix when they remade Tomb Raider. It sold decently, but not great. They remade it to generate more sales. It kinda worked, cause next gen owners are hungry. Beyond sold decently as well (1.5m+ now), so it's the same strategy at work. Almost 2m is not "no one". Quite a few people bought it.


How much effort would it take to port Heavy Rain and make it presentable?
Probably quite a bit. A lot of textures would need to be upgraded, the tearing fixed and a lot of glitches to be ironed out. The game can be quite broken at certain moments. Not sure if they want to touch that codebase again lol
 

TriniTrin

war of titties grampa
Ask Square Enix when they remade Tomb Raider. It sold decently, but not great. They remade it to generate more sales. It kinda worked, cause next gen owners are hungry. Beyond sold decently as well (1.5m+ now), so it's the same strategy at work. Almost 2m is not "no one". Quite a few people bought it.

1.5m in 8 months isn't that good but it could be because it was a console exclusive. I believe it wouldn't be worth the money to remaster B2S like they did with The Last of Us (which within 3 weeks of launch sold for 3.4 Million .)

Tomb Raider sold 3.4 mil in its first month
which was quite a bit more than Beyond but it was multiplat.

My whole point is the series didn't do well enough financially to entice Sony into remaking it. You could be right that it would do alright because next gen owners are lacking in games but I just don't think it will happen.
 
I liked Beyond, cool story, neat gameplay. That said I'd probably buy a remaster...way down the line.

For people who passed on it though that would be awesome.
 
I don't think so, just because if PS3 backward compatibility was a fact, maybe a lot of people just would sell their PS3, paying PS4 the same price of 400$ with PS3 discount. But, at the same time, Sony can sall all Ps3 titles to new PS4 users.

You do realize Sony tried this with the PS3 already (basically having a Ps2 built in)? People didn't want and it didn't work out so well.
 
1.5m in 8 months isn't that good but it could be because it was a console exclusive. I believe it wouldn't be worth the money to remaster B2S like they did with The Last of Us (which within 3 weeks of launch sold for 3.4 Million .)

Tomb Raider sold 3.4 mil in its first month
which was quite a bit more than Beyond but it was multiplat.

My whole point is the series didn't do well enough financially to entice Sony into remaking it. You could be right that it would do alright because next gen owners are lacking in games but I just don't think it will happen.
It was 1.5m in March. So 5 months after release. 1m after 2.5 months. That's about the same as Heavy Rain which made $100m for Sony. Console exclusives selling that much are profitable sooner cause Sony doesn't need to pay license fees (~12% of every copy). It was also much less expensive obviously. Overall it's highly likely Beyond made a decent profit.

Also don't forget that the engine was already ported for the Dark Sorcerer techdemo. That part is already done and essentially cost $0.
 

Melchiah

Member
I can't wait to play TLOU again on PS4, but I have no desire to replay a new gen version of Beyond. It was a one-time ride, and a good one, but I don't think a remaster would add anything substantial to the experience.
 
I'd prioritize other games before it. Beyond was incredibly disappointing, and I don't think it sold very well.

Somebody already posted this in effect but I agree and think the reason games like this and TLOU are being prioritized now is because its so quick off their PS3 release that its all part of one continuous development cycle, that PS4 ports were planned before the PS3 versions even released. Going back to older games would be digging up old projects and restarting them, extra effort from just a continuation of current projects. I'm sure all the major franchises will be rereleased sooner or later, so I'm not too worried about priorities.
 

Replicant

Member
I'd rather have Heavy Rain PS4 edition tbh. Not too fond of Beyond.

I mean, I did the OT so I enjoyed it to an extent but well, I was a bit disappointed by the entire execution. I miss tapping on buttons (aka normal QTEs) instead of whatever system they had for Beyond. Also, I miss the tension that present throughout Heavy Rain.
 
I love Sony for their end of cycle PS3 support...some massive AAA exclusives. But like others, I eventually god rid of my PS3 before picking up Beyond. At the time I was only looking towards next-gen.
 

Cloudy

Banned
I'd buy it but I'm not sure how the character models can look any better. The environments could probably be improved on PS4 though
 

RPGCrazied

Member
Like Last of Us, looks good enough on PS3. I really don't see the point. But if they can get a few more sales, why not I guess.
 
Like Last of Us, looks good enough on PS3. I really don't see the point. But if they can get a few more sales, why not I guess.

What irritates me more is, unlike TLOU that has an (awesome) linear narrative that the player cant ultimately choose/change, Beyond Two Soul's like Heavy rain is a choice based venture where if you already completed the game on ps3 then you've already crafted your story, your version of Jodie and the plot. This kind of release is probably aimed more towards new ps4 players sure but the audience that appreciated and purchased the game months earlier on ps3, if they follow David Cage's own words, shouldn't play the game more than once, undermining their own ps3 story, experience. That said if they add a significant amount of new content to expand and detail the story as well as improve the controls (or plot incoherence at certain points altogether) I might be willing to replay...
 

Fbh

Member
I hope it turns out to be a Quantick Dream pack or something.

I didn't like Beyond enough to buy it again, but if they pack Heavy Rain with it it might be worth getting at some point. They could also put some sneak peak of their new project as an extra
 
I hope it turns out to be a Quantick Dream pack or something.

I didn't like Beyond enough to buy it again, but if they pack Heavy Rain with it it might be worth getting at some point. They could also put some sneak peak of their new project as an extra

I was thinking something similar. Id rather have Heavy Rain, but if they packed them together itd be ideal.
 

synce

Member
No way it's happening but I would definitely buy it twice, even three times. 1080p60 digital Ellen and commentary would be great
 

Radius

Member
Sorry for the bump but...what is this?

http://www.beyoncetwosouls.com/

The logo is the same as the one from Beyond but the studio is probably a fake.

There's even some kind of PR text:

$7 Million In Funding to Establish Powernoia Games, Deliver Beyonce Two Souls

We are very excited to finally announce our debut venture. Your favorite south-of-the-border fast food franchise has partnered with the greatest minds in entertainment and marketing to open a brand-spanking-new game studio, POWERNOIA.

This exciting new studio aims to revolutionize the world of interactive entertainment by connecting gamers with their favorite brands and celebrities. With over 30 collective years of experience in music, filmmaking, television production, and promotional event planning, the POWERNOIA team will deliver games that redefine, reshape, and reinvent what it means to "produce multimedia experiences.”

With the founding of POWERNOIA comes the announcement of BEYONCE TWO SOULS, An emotional odyssey that investigates the heart of humanity, music, and supreme zest. BEYONCE TWO SOULS will be available on September 1, 2014 on BeyonceTwoSouls.com .

No expense will be spared. No platform will be left unexplored. Prepare for a media shitstorm of excitement. The world of brand-powered Social and Mobile gaming will never be the same.
Are you ready to get "Powernoid?

Is this some kind of troll announcement from Sony/QD?
 
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