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Hyrule Warriors | Review Thread | Oh! Oh-oh! C'mon! What a hot beat!!

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robotzombie

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jg4xchamp said:
Platinum has two games coming out this year, and Aztez still might make a holiday run. I'll save my money for better beat-em up games.
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This game has nothing to do with the character action genre you are describing

wsippel said:
I wouldn't bet on it. Regular Musou games typically have more content but less polish.
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People keep saying this, but I do not at all see any magical extra "polish" in this game compared to other Musous. That is purely just the Zelda placebo at work
 
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ShogunDarius

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Xater said:
It's hard to do an exact comparison with recent DW games because a lot of these outlets have stopped to even bother reviewing them. GameInformer would be a prime example though, it even has the same reviewer for DW8 and HW. The entire reasoning is that it's Zelda and therefor better.
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yeah this isnt a recent game thing, reviewers and gamers have put down the series for over a decade with the same tired excuses, criticism that could be leveled at many others games mind too.
Before I played a warriors game (my first was DW3) every person I spoke too said to avoid it (along with kessen), guess what? I decided on my own to play both games, I now try to play any Warriors game and Kessen that comes out as I highly like them.
Some people are guilty of letting others influence their opinions when they havent even given the series a fair go and a kind of stigma has formed because of it too.
 
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wrowa

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wsippel said:
I wouldn't bet on it. Regular Musou games typically have more content but less polish.
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That's true as well. I have limited experience with the Warriors series (last game I played was Orochi 3 a few months back), but Hyrule Warriors felt far less clunky to me than other games in the series I've played. However, it's also a little watered down in terms of Warriors gameplay.
 
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Xater

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FryHole said:
Ok, ta. I appreciate the reply. I think it's a reasonable stance to take, the reviewer still lambasts what he considers repetitive combat but finds it more enjoyable due to the world and lore. It reflects my own (wavery) interest in the game. I can see how it would grate if you were a fan of the game mechanics though.
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It's reasonable that it makes a difference but for some outlets it seems to take the game from mediocre to good. That is what rubs me the wrong way as someone who likes Musou games. I have my own preferences with the different settings but you can the reasoning that you just can't care about what's going on in DW for example is weird. It has a story like many other games in which you learn about the characters, their motivations etc.
 
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jackal27

Banned
Ah!! So excite! Sterling' video has sold me on the game for sure. I've never played a Musou game, but I love beat em ups and generally mindless repetition as well as Zelda so I think I'll like this!
 
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Kai Dracon

Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
lol at Metro = "Musou games are inherently bad and this game is not a real Zelda, why isn't it a mainline Zelda game, wah".

Otherwise about what I would have expected. The Zelda theme would make a number of people sit down and pay attention to a kind of game they believed should be intrinsically bad. To be fair to attitudes biased against musou games, Koei's typical problem is their games have very low budget presentation. And their jpop rockstar version of Chinese and Japanese history is the definition of an acquired taste.

The Zelda crossover should be all rights give such a game wider appeal, not just for Zelda fans but those that like general fantasy themes.
 
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TreIII

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OrbitalBeard said:
These review scores are MUCH higher than I was expecting. Awesome! Looking forward to picking this up. I enjoy the DW series but haven't played one in a loooong time, so this is a good game for me, I think.
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Actually, this is pretty much what I was expecting. Nothing too high, but certainly higher than normal for a Musou/DW-style game. If for no other reason than because almost everybody knows about LoZ, even if they don't know a "Cao Cao" from an "Oda Nobunaga".

I've always maintained that the biggest hurdle for Koei and their Musou games was that their wares were never something that most Westerners would get into. Gundam hasn't been big since the 2000s Toonami-era, One Piece isn't quite Naruto/DBZ-tier in America and stylish Wuxia action based on different segments of East Asian history? Forget it. And without that "empathy" for the characters, you'll be less likely to even give the gameplay a fair shake.
 
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Timeaisis

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Reviews are about what I expected. Zelda fanatics love the shit out of it, it seems.

Jim Sterling gave it a 9/10. Haha. Day one.
 
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Mesoian

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TreIII said:
Actually, this is pretty much what I was expecting. Nothing too high, but certainly higher than normal for a Musou/DW-style game. If for no other reason than because almost everybody knows about LoZ, even if they don't know a "Cao Cao" from an "Oda Nobunaga".

I've always maintained that the biggest hurdle for Koei and their Musou games was that their wares were never something that most Westerners would get into. Gundam hasn't been big since the 2000s Toonami-era, One Piece isn't quite Naruto/DBZ-tier in America and stylish Wuxia action based on different segments of East Asian history? Forget it. And without that "empathy" for the characters, you'll be less likely to even give the gameplay a fair shake.
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Yeah, but unless Koei or Bamco is willing to make...like...a bionicle musou game or whatever the current lego cartoons on CN are, I don't think there's an american property that fits the formula. Hell, even with all the stuff Zelda Musou has, I still think they could have handled things like mob types and sub bosses a lot better (though that's probably more about dev time than anything else).
 
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victreeb3l

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It actually got a lot more favorable reviews than I thought it would get. Looking more like a purchase to me... :O

This + Bayo 2 + Toad, my Wii U will be eating good this year :3
 
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silvermember

Banned
Principate said:
Gamespots review was the strangest seemed like a prime target as an outlet to lambast it. This scored higher than Skyward Sword.

Think about that.
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Was it reviewd by the same person? If Yes, then that is weird. If no, then all that says is that different peoplee have different opinions, i know right?
 
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Exile20

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Small Mailman said:
If this didn't have Zelda characters I bet it would have been 6's across the board. I don't need reviews of a game that's just some good old fashioned, mindless fun. Hopefully it'll be slightly cheaper once Smash is out so I can buy it along with a Wii U
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Xater said:
Of course. All these other Musou games that actually have more content and stuff are bad. This has Zelda slapped onto it so it's awesome.
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ShogunDarius said:
oh so NOW people suddenly like musou, knew this was gonna happen



anyone that actually likes this game please go ahead and try one of the others released/ing this year, they are

Dynasty Warriors 8 Complete Edition (PS4 and Vita) (there is an PS3 release but that is just the expansion, Vita and PS4 is main game and expansion)
Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate (PS3, PS4, Xbox 360, Xbox One and Vita)
Samurai Warriors 4 (PS3, PS4 and Vita) out in October.
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What is wrong with people? Characters are a big part of any story driven game.

That is why I have never finished any BF/COD single player because I just dont care about the characters or story. I play the multiplayer tho.

So why is it such a big deal that people want to play it or it received well because of the characters?

The same would happen if it was a Halo Musou game. Plus the game is not getting 10's across the board or anything.
 
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StreetsAhead

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Surprise, surprise; the opinions on this game are quite diverse. I thoroughly enjoyed my time with it so far (30+ hours, story + adventure mode). If you come in knowing what a Dynasty Warriors game is and plays like there's a lot of fun to be had. Playing on the most difficult settings also helps.
 
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Principate

Saint Titanfall
silvermember said:
Was it reviewd by the same person? If Yes, then that is weird. If no, then all that says is that different peoplee have different opinions, i know right?
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Your taking the comment in entirely the wrong way. I stating that has whole (over the various reviewers since the release of OoT), Gamespot has reviewed Zelda games fairly harshly (Musou games probably even harsher), it's strange that this game wasn't reviewed harshly. The operative word with strange, I'm not saying it's or inferring anything about the fact people have different opinions or even the quality o the game, but if you look at past reviews from the organisation it is strange. I was noting this.
 
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antitrop

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Timeaisis said:
Reviews are about what I expected. Zelda fanatics love the shit out of it, it seems.

Jim Sterling gave it a 9/10. Haha. Day one.
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Sterling's review is the only one that matters.

He's the only one that you can be sure actually likes the game and isn't just inflating the score for Zelda fanservice.
 
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Tony91

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4news.it (Italy) 9/10

Hyrule Warriors is an overall better product than any of the recent Dynasty Warriors: is itbecause of Kyoto's house touch or is it the charm of The Legend of Zelda? Finding an answer is pretty hard, but we firmly believe that the collaboration between Nintendo and Tecmo Koei has been a success...
 
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ShockingAlberto

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People in the west suddenly liking Musou games because Zelda is attached was sort of, like, the point of the crossover, you guys. You're not unearthing a huge secret here. They wanted Zelda to do better in Japan and Warriors to do better in the west.

That people are responding to the thing they've actually said outloud isn't terribly surprising.
 
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Effect

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Mesoian said:
Yeah, but unless Koei or Bamco is willing to make...like...a bionicle musou game or whatever the current lego cartoons on CN are, I don't think there's an american property that fits the formula. Hell, even with all the stuff Zelda Musou has, I still think they could have handled things like mob types and sub bosses a lot better (though that's probably more about dev time than anything else).
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Oh. Transformers. That likely could be an IP that would work really well.
 
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User 479360

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I've only enjoyed Dynasty Warriors for a few hours, but I hope I'll enjoy this one more. I'm awaiting my copy's arrival.

I wonder how long it is.
 
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StreetsAhead

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OCDChewie said:
I've only enjoyed Dynasty Warriors for a few hours, but I hope I'll enjoy this one more. I'm awaiting my copy's arrival.

I wonder how long it is.
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You can plow through the main story missions in
about 10 hours.

You could spend
15~30 hours
unlocking everything in the adventure mode, though.
 
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KingSnake

The Birthday Skeleton
I don't get the comments about why it gets better reviews for just having characters (and worlds) from Zelda. Characters are a very important component of a game especially when they are not very generic (as most of the DW kind of are). People are enjoying more a game when they are playing with a character that they know, they like or they can identify with. That's why SSB is not just another fighter, for example. Some people hated on W101 because of the "cartoonish" characters. For me personally this applies with the The Legend of Korra, where despite being developed by Platinum Games I dislike the settings and the characters so much that I don't feel the need to play it. Maybe some people/reviewers that are not normally very fond of DW games are willing to ignore more the negative side of it just for having fun playing as Zelda. I don't see the negative side of this.
 
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Mesoian

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protomouse said:
Oh definitely. That TF review was something else as well. What I don't understand is why more publications that review games this way haven't just adopted Kotaku's binary system instead.
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Because Metacritic scores are still important in the games industry, even if they both shouldn't be and publishers claim they aren't.
 
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Lingitiz

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cnorwood said:
Rarer? please explain
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Most embargos don't come up until the day the game releases, or the day before at the earliest. Nintendo usually doesn't care and will go even up to a month early. The only problem they still have is the really late video embargos that they still use for some reason.
 
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tebunker

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What I find interesting is that Musuo games get lambasted for their simplicity but rarely do,say , the Lego games get blasted as much. Especially considering that outside of Lego City Undercover, almost all Lego titles are near identical but with different wrappers.

You can make that argument against the Warriors games, but there just isn't any consistency.

I am still on the fence on this one. I have read that the co-op comes with some technical hitches and I would like to see more about that.
 
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