mangochutney
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Bitrate of the new videos are lower, one you pasted is 50Mb/s, these are around 30-35.
Also they said they made these in a hurry, so possible they used faster encoding which will result in reduced quality.
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Also they said they made these in a hurry, so possible they used faster encoding which will result in reduced quality.
yeah, it just makes driveclub look shitty. After playing Forza Horizon 2 for a couple hours, the difference was immediately noticeable. Has to be the videos and not the game, that's for sure.
Vire
Member
Yep, 50670 bitrate for a 5 minute video would lead to astronomical sizes.
As it is, the files are already 900 mb.
Maybe blimblim can put up a few really short high quality videos too.
MightyHedgehog
Member
Looks fantastic as usual. Environments and lighting are great! Only thing I'm not so into is the tendency for many of courses that were captured to be composed of many relatively long straights which seems to favor the supercar set. Also dislike the grating tire squeal...reminds me of Gran Turismo, but not nearly as irritating. I understand there's a need for an audible indicator to let you know when and how much traction you're losing, but I hope it can be turned down quite a bit so as to not dominate the rest of the mix, or maybe receive a post-release patch to add more variance or even use DS4 vibration as a main cue instead. Looking forward to playing the PS+ demo.
I dont mind downloading bigger files if its means a better representation.
Man, the image quality just isn't that great in the end. There's a lot of visible shimmering and, once again, texture filtering is lousy.
I mean, the game looks very nice, but it's disappointing to see so many tiny details created for this game only to have them compromised somewhat by relatively poor image quality.
I mean, the game looks very nice, but it's disappointing to see so many tiny details created for this game only to have them compromised somewhat by relatively poor image quality.
Vire
Member
I'm sure you don't mind, but Gamersyde has to pay the bills for the bandwidth...
Agreed 100%, in the Norway video, the fans and foliage on the side are completely butchered by the image quality. It really isn't even close to the PR b-roll put out a week back.
It's like.. what am I even looking at?
DannyDanger
Member
webMs PLEASE
Chris Metal
Member
Yeah, but that 50670 bitrate clip is 15 sec and 100MB odd. You're looking at 2GB for 5 mins worth. It's a lot of bandwidth and what we have right now looks wonderful anyway to me. It's not long before you can try it out on PS4 anyway.
MightyHedgehog
Member
Wait...weren't you the one who handled DF's early look at this game, praising it quite highly? Did it change? I see all of the little things, like the lack of small vegetation in the rearview (FH2 dops this stuff, too) or even the lack of spectators in that mirror, or the LOD pop and shimmer along higher contrast edges, but it seems to be pretty generally stable quality of look considering the draw distance and speed at which you stream it toward you. Certainly, it looks a little worse than the perfect gifs people have been gorging themselves on over the past year, inflating their expectations beyond reason, and maybe a little more flawed given its more traditional, track-based view limitations. Looks good at speed, anyway.
Neuromancer
Member
these gifs
Melfice7
Member
It's NOT a SIM
BiGBoSSMk23
A company being excited for their new game is a huge slap in the face to all the fans that liked their old games.
Guys, I was thinking... in honor of Studio Liverpool, I'd like to make a WipEout themed Club somewhere down the line.
I was thinking AG Systems inspired.
I plan to remain a free agent until my skills are good enough to benefit joining a club.
But let's keep this idea in mind? :3
I was thinking AG Systems inspired.
I plan to remain a free agent until my skills are good enough to benefit joining a club.
But let's keep this idea in mind? :3
cyber_ninja
Member
My most anticipated title this year, cannot wait!!!
We did a lot of testing with bitrates, and somewhere around 30 to 35 mbits is the sweet spot for 1080p. I could do a 50 mbits version just to show it, but honestly it's not worth my (or should I say driftwood's) time.
AstroNut325
Member
This game will suck. But only because no one will play it. Everyone will be too busy drooling over the environments!
That colored lighting through the tunnel. Yes. Please YES.
Vire
Member
Alright, I trust that it wouldn't make much of a difference. We'll have the game in our hands in less than a week anyway.
Thanks for the videos!
No, that wasn't me. I haven't written about the game for DF.
That said, it looks much better right now than it did a year or so back when I first played it. Image quality is better, motion blur is hugely improved, and things seem more polished overall. Still, at 30 fps, I would have expected they could do more with image quality.
Still, it's not as impressive as I was hoping. Image quality is a huge part but also there's something about the terrain that doesn't quite sit right with me. The foliage and hills remind me of Far Cry 2 and 3 for some reason. They just don't look quite natural at times.
It definitely looks like an Evolution game, though. The Motorstorm titles all suffered many of the same flaws when you looked too closely but were sublime in motion.
Ingueferroque
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I'm sure you don't mind, but Gamersyde has to pay the bills for the bandwidth...
Agreed 100%, in the Norway video, the fans and foliage on the side are completely butchered by the image quality. It really isn't even close to the PR b-roll put out a week back.
It's like.. what am I even looking at?
A compressed still from captured footage from a high-speed scene.. I wouldn't use this as a reference to judge the IQ.
Vire
Member
It arguably looks worse in motion with all the shimmering going on.
Watch the Norway Downhill Sunset video at the 2:20 mark.
MightyHedgehog
Member
Ah, my mistake, man.
The Motorstorm titles feature extremely uneven driving surfaces which help the camera jitter and bounce all of the user's view to hide whatever issues might be more apparent when driving the relatively smooth road courses of DC. Layer blur on that and it becomes much more dramatically intense rather than sore-thumb ugly. I think I get what you mean, though. The hype for this game's visual perfection or whatever may hurt it among the most demanding.
I second this but I'm more of a Goteki fan than Ag sys
cookie-monster
Member
love the little fires and all the other touches that bring it to life. Looks fantastic.
its not the game dude, it's the shit bitrate on the videos.
Always-honest
Banned
Nah
mangochutney
Member
The gifs look as good as the gifs have ever looked from these new videos.
Guess what. 360p gifs look better than 1080p stills.
Considering we've already had games where jaggies weren't an issue at all, no, we aren't doomed for life of the PS4. You can't win 'em all. It still looks fantastic.
Nah, it's most likely the game, EVO/Sony really harmed the game by releasing a super sampled footage couple of days before release, that was a big mistake cause now people are disappointed with the IQ.
I think people should really watch it on their TV, sittong close with your PC monitor make you notice every flaw.
Insane Metal
Member
The aliasing is really bad... I thought they would take care of that in the final version... it seems not 
Otherwise the game looks ace.
Otherwise the game looks ace.
Image quality issues don't magically appear because of a lower bitrate. It's definitely the game. This game definitely doesn't look that good because of the aliasing.
Game looks decent. Not the graphical showcase I expected. At 1080p it looks totally fine but it doesn't have the iq I expected. Really hate to be another guy like this, but I so wish they had made motorstorm instead
I don't know how anybody could say this with a straight face. What racers look more graphically impressive?
Dont get it either this is one of the top games graphically so far this gen.
They didn't. Pretty sure that even Rushy was surprised to see that footage shown so it was most likely leaked. I don't think it was supposed to be released by EVO.
Primethius
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I am still surprised at the number of people expecting the b-roll video IQ quality for future games (and DC to begin with). I don't think a console game will be touching that level of IQ any time soon. Its far too clean.
I hope people aren't expecting that ridiculous level of IQ in-game for something like UC4.
I hope people aren't expecting that ridiculous level of IQ in-game for something like UC4.
If they can get Uncharted 4 to look anything like the reveal trailer, that will look miles better simply because of the superior image quality.
Vire
Member
Probably would have helped if he didn't say it was gameplay.
mangochutney
Member
Ignore the flickering, that is just a gif being a gif doesn't happen in the video before anyone gets a panic on... but damn this in rain....
What are you talking about? After the screens were released by that one guy on GAF last night I was really disappointed by the IQ, but now watching these Gamersyde videos, I am pleasantly surprised. One I got over the fact that it's not going to have pixel perfect image quality, its IQ is actually pretty good.
No, it doesn't.
Not perfect =/= really bad.
Really bad = really bad.
This is not "really bad."
Man, the hyperbole used these days over graphics.
Hey guys, we are currently streaming the game live in French, and will be switching to English in 4 minutes. If you have any question about the game (out of our own opinions), you're welcome to ask them on the chat
http://twitch.tv/gamersyde
http://twitch.tv/gamersyde
It must be me watching it on my pc monitor? I think the game looks good. Decent. There's something off about it tho on those videos. The picture I'm seeing on my monitor doesn't "pop" like infamous. It looks kind of muddy. The textures. Lots of shimmering of white type lines on the edges of polygons? I also saw a fence completely draw in on one if the videos. I don't know if it's the motion blur or what. I should watch it on my TV but the kids won't get off it lol