With Halloween so close and all, I imagine it was planned to create the same reaction it does now, but let's wait for the "Gotcha!" moment.
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Hatred - Reveal & Gameplay Trailer
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With Halloween so close and all, I imagine it was planned to create the same reaction it does now, but let's wait for the "Gotcha!" moment.
It sounds like they're hinting at some twist, but still dumb...and postal already did this.
oh well, this is a thing that exists again and it shouldn't be censored or anything. People can make what they want, I just won't buy it.
The reaction is funny though. The video game human body count by people in this thread is collectively in the trillions, but I guess all of that was for great justice. Because all-American Nathan Drake can go to some third world country and distribute payloads of freedom to impoverished mercs in the name of finding treasure that will make him rich and that's a whole lot better.
oh well, this is a thing that exists again and it shouldn't be censored or anything. People can make what they want, I just won't buy it.
The reaction is funny though. The video game human body count by people in this thread is collectively in the trillions, but I guess all of that was for great justice. Because all-American Nathan Drake can go to some third world country and distribute payloads of freedom to impoverished mercs in the name of finding treasure that will make him rich and that's a whole lot better.
Teknopathetic
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Just looks like Postal, again.
Acti
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Leafhopper
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I don't defend Drake killing hundreds of guys in his adventures either but those games don't glorify killing like this. That and their is a horrible lack of context, at least in that trailer into why the main character is doing this.
That and rarely isometric shooters entertain me.
publicpwnerer
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Nathan Drake, eat your heart out.
The game that vindicates all the anti-video game people.
The game that vindicates all the anti-video game people.
cheezcake
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It's not the violence itself that's the issue its the fucking lack of context here. This game looks like its just brutality for the sake of brutality. In Hotline Miami you knew you had psychotic issues with the hallucinations. Plus the aesthetic and music of the game all made this high octane, sensory overload of a world in which the violence was fitting.
I have a few issues with GTAV but the torture scene was obviously there to make you hate Trevor, not like him. It was part of the character and story development. Could it have been done more tastefully? Probably. But it doesn't seem anywhere near as bad as this.
PaulExcellent
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also i get the color scheme makes it look gritty and edgy but stop
imagine how much more intense it would be if it had realistic colors with those filters
that's how you would go full Sasuke on this
imagine how much more intense it would be if it had realistic colors with those filters
that's how you would go full Sasuke on this
lol, that's kinda true, but everytime it looks like they want to just build worlds, and the rest is vestigial stuff they get from being GTA (which i don't mind).
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Anyway, reading the blurb from the site, it just sounds like a cheap 2edgy4me cashgrab, with some pretty eyerolling language used.
It's not like this level of violence is anything new, yet i'm sure every outlet will not fail to deliver them the utmost attention.
This is nothing compared to Postal.
I'm going to go against the grain here and say that it looks really fun.
I can't see how this is different to slaughtering NPC's in any game. (GTA, TombRaider, Uncharted, COD etc).
It's a game.
There are people out there, serial killers, who have killed just to experience taking a life. These people are fucked up, but not everyone needs a backstory to make them fit into the theory that they must be driven somehow by an external situation.
What is wrong with a game that has brutality for brutality's sake?
Exactly.
I can't see how this is different to slaughtering NPC's in any game. (GTA, TombRaider, Uncharted, COD etc).
It's a game.
There are people out there, serial killers, who have killed just to experience taking a life. These people are fucked up, but not everyone needs a backstory to make them fit into the theory that they must be driven somehow by an external situation.
What is wrong with a game that has brutality for brutality's sake?
Exactly.
SapientWolf
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Wait, they're not zombies? Time to act offended.
The problem that I have is the fidelity in which you're being shown the cause and effect. I've not played GTA, but in HM, you're not shown super detailed imagery of women begging for their lives before having a pistol inserted into their mouth and then executed in cold blood. Part of what makes the brutality in HM easier to stomach is that it's obfuscated by the presentation, just like how in an Uncharted game, Drake's witty quips distract you from how horrible of a human you really are for killing so many people and then (him) laughing about it.
Jules Coast
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Jeez, the media is going to be all over this.
The gameplay itself looks fun but the premise of the game seems tasteless. There could be more to the story but him wanting to kill innocents "just because" has never, and will never cut it for any story you're trying to tell. And if there is more to the story it should be communicated as soon as possible to the audience when dealing with a subject matter so grim.
The gameplay itself looks fun but the premise of the game seems tasteless. There could be more to the story but him wanting to kill innocents "just because" has never, and will never cut it for any story you're trying to tell. And if there is more to the story it should be communicated as soon as possible to the audience when dealing with a subject matter so grim.
Well, that's ok then. Right?
Leafhopper
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Probably.
Magic Mushroom
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Drake is no different than an action hero like Indy or Han Solo. Likeable guys who kill bad people in fun action movies.
It's not the same as an utterly grim and very graphic murdering the innocent people sim.
It's not the same as an utterly grim and very graphic murdering the innocent people sim.
I enjoy a number of shooting games where killing people is par for the course (take Uncharted as an example) so I'm not claiming some higher moral value.
However the pretext for mass murder in a game like that is significantly different than is proposed in this game and that DOES make a difference to me. I am therefore not interested in this game, at all.
However the pretext for mass murder in a game like that is significantly different than is proposed in this game and that DOES make a difference to me. I am therefore not interested in this game, at all.
For starters it's sold with more gratings description than any of those games.
That said, each of those had at least some level of controversy and backlash, related to their violence.
x2 on this.
I think they might have actually made the trailer overly gory/gruesome just so that it can kick up some controversy and in turn get it on the radar.
That1BlackGuy
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Definitely looks like it was inspired by OG Postal.
Appollowexx
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Just my opinion but this is one of the most unnecessary video games I've ever seen. Quite repellent.
There seems to be no point to it other than to encourage horrific acts of violence toward innocent civilians and that doesn't sit right with me.
Even games like Manhunt have a point - you're fighting very bad, sadistic inmates who have killed and enjoy killing. This though it seems to endorse violence. Reminds me of films like August Underground.
There seems to be no point to it other than to encourage horrific acts of violence toward innocent civilians and that doesn't sit right with me.
Even games like Manhunt have a point - you're fighting very bad, sadistic inmates who have killed and enjoy killing. This though it seems to endorse violence. Reminds me of films like August Underground.
GuitarAtomik
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Wow. I was not expecting that.
Hmmm.
I'm not going to say a game like this shouldn't exist. In fact, I think it's important that it can. But man. Hard to watch. I don't know if I could ever play it. Something about it being essentially a Columbine-ish simulator as opposed to a fantasy world, or a sci-fi world, or even just a period piece makes it really disturbing. I'm really curious how far they actually plan to go as far as the exploration of this dude's psyche. That alone could make this more than just shock value. Not that it needs to be, but I'm still curious.
Hmmm.
I'm not going to say a game like this shouldn't exist. In fact, I think it's important that it can. But man. Hard to watch. I don't know if I could ever play it. Something about it being essentially a Columbine-ish simulator as opposed to a fantasy world, or a sci-fi world, or even just a period piece makes it really disturbing. I'm really curious how far they actually plan to go as far as the exploration of this dude's psyche. That alone could make this more than just shock value. Not that it needs to be, but I'm still curious.
AllIsOneIsNone
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I guess the media needs a new game to blame murders on every few years.
At least No Russian made sense in a narrative context. It was incredibly brutal, but at least it wasn't completely aimless with its brutality like this seems to be.
cheezcake
Member
It's cheap.
Cheap shock value to garner publicity. There's no personality, no real player engagement, its just murder porn.
Acquiescence
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Looks like the sort of game that might generate a bit of controversy.
It really does.
Maybe that's the twist. If you walk out and don't shoot anyone, everyone is really nice to you and warms your hateful heart.
TheSpoiler
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Nathan Drake kills people trying to kill him. They generally shoot first, and let's face it, none of these people are hired to do any good (like letting lose a swarm of sealed zombies, gaining the power of a tree, or hell, just using the powers of a lost city for some illusory bio-weapon). Hell, Drake goes out of his way to not kill innocents, as seen in UC2's first level.
Context is what separates defending yourself Indiana Jones style and being an Edgemaster 5000.
Edit: I'm not saying games like this can't exist, because then we'd go down a slippery slope of what's acceptable and what's not. But I can make fun of how overly edgey it's trying to be and how it reminds me of that kid in high school who just hated everyone.
XGoldenboyX
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hmmm ??
I looked at the screenshots first and thought, wow nice old school view, great art direction....
THEN I saw the Trailer
SERIOUSLY ....AS A GAME DEVELOPER MYSELF I FIND THIS DISTURBING....
Where are the limits ....JESUS!
I looked at the screenshots first and thought, wow nice old school view, great art direction....
THEN I saw the Trailer
SERIOUSLY ....AS A GAME DEVELOPER MYSELF I FIND THIS DISTURBING....
Where are the limits ....JESUS!
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