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[C.Dark.DN]

OH yeah I am sorry if this has been mentioned in this thread before, but I didn't see it ....

What are the approximate HW numbers for PS4 in September?

From what I can tell PS4 seems to have sold like 500K and XB1 200K, but I am not sure if that is right.

What's 200k from?

 

[ArchedThunder]

So bundles aren't counted for sales numbers and a fair number of the Xbone Destiny sales were probably free copies because of the deal they ran, I wish it was possible to see those two numbers compared.

So I know PS4 is 3X August, but are their any estimates on how many units it actually sold?

True but did people actually think that even the standalone sales would do better on the Xbox One?

Well they did give the game away to people who bought a new Xbone.

 

[cgcg]

Destiny sold more on PS4 according to Sony:

Destiny in particular was huge for Sony, as the company noted that PS4 has been the lead platform for the game in terms of units sold through October 4.

 

[Cow Goes Moo]

nintendo was pretty smart to release smash on 3ds as well
smashing charts
smashing japan
smashing expectations

wii u version is all that remains to be seen

 

[The Last One]

somewhere around 700k

Thanks!

I wonder if it reached 1M by now.

 

[Doffen]

It did reasonably well in the UK in it's first week.

So it did reasonably well in about 2% of Europe.
Great work MS!

 

[MavFan619]

That exclusive marketing deal... certainly existed.

World wide PS4 is number one platform for Destiny and one would assume a good portion of the HW Sales are the bundle which wouldn't factor in as well as digital. Unless you were talking about Madden and FIFA in which case forgive me.

 

[cpp_is_king]

Yeah, people aren't realizing that the PS4 has had greater numbers than the XbO, yet standalone still sold more on the XbO. Sure you can argue 'Well that doesn't include bundled', but how many PS4 owners bought another PS4..?



Do you have numbers for this?

Well, read the quote from Sony in the OP. "Playstation 4 was the number one console worldwide for sold-through Destiny units."

 

[Hoje0308]

Oh man, that Bish edit...

OT: Not surprised by this at all. MS was giving away a free game, so of course their Destiny numbers are good. But, that still wasn't enough to come out ahead and now Redmond's hopes rest on the Chief's shoulders. November is going to be very interesting.

 

[GeeDuhb]

Does anyone know if Pachter has commented since this reveal? I want to see him confess his foolishness.

This was in a post earlier in the thread:

I asked Pachter what happened:

Pachter: Yeah, people really like those white PS4s ;-)

PS4 was up by almost threefold. I’m not sure what triggered that, didn’t find the Destiny bundle that compelling (it was only a $10 discount), and the fifth week implied that sales would be up by 25%. I get that September is seasonally stronger than August, so I suppose I should have gone to 375 – 400k, but I would never have gone to over 500k. I’m still surprised by that figure.

 

[sam777]

including demo players or no?

Most likely not as I believe your stats were reset everytime you went back on the demo.

 

[ShadowkillXNA]

I think this might be the end game for xbox unfortunately this gen. Things are looking really bleak. If they can hang in there they will still get most of the third party games along with exclusives but a PS3 like return is looking very unlikely at this point.

Playstation is a worldwide brand, Xbox isnt. A ps3 like comeback was never going to happen for Xbox One for this reason alone.

 

[Jburton]

So PS4 Destiny total if including bundle sales which are bound to be huge due to console sale numbers this month would surpass X1 quite easily.


Also no MS PR?


Really is a case of you only sing when you're winning.

 

[SmokyDave]

Stealing Powerhouse™ comparison from jcm:
Powerhouse™ vs the PSP and NDS

        3DS 2014  PSP 2008  NDS 2008
January       97       230       251
February     153       243       587
March        159       297       698
April        106       193       415
May           97       182       452
June         152       337       783
July         108       222       608
August        91       253       518
September    140       238       537
October                193       491
November               421      1570
December              1020      3040

Through Sep 1103      2195      4849
Total                 3829      9950

As great as smash numbers are still pretty damn bad for 3DS hw. They really should have launched N3DS in US too this year. Holiday season is going to be ugly.

God bless the PSP. That little fucker is still shifting units in Japan.

 

[perfectchaos007]

Smash failed at moving 3DS units. Not a good sign for Nintendo if they are hoping Smash U will move Wii U hardware....

 

[IAmRandom31]

At this point I'm thinking MS doesn't want to give out any details on X1 sales ...

They are trailing behind with the PR and by a good clip ...

200k month?

Whats the record for Year 1 sales on a console anyway? PS4 must be putting whatever it is in danger. They could easily sell 15m year 1.

 

[QaaQer]

No, first day it was ~40k its been going up by 100K each week since release

cheers.

 

[Scully Scully Scoo]

that destiny bundle done its job for ps4

Those reviews didn't do shit

are u meaning to tell me the vast majority of gamers dont give a shit about reviews or even visit a gaming website? shocking

 

[digoutyoursoul]

Nintendo should have had a Smash Bros ready for Wii U launch. That series is Nintendo's best shot at bringing in core.

Stunned at Hyrule Warriors numbers, but man does that game deserve it. My surprise of the year.

Metroid, StarFox and maybe F-Zero also ? Nintendo has some first party, just wish they had better hardware

 

[Katana_Strikes]

True but did people actually think that even the standalone sales would do better on the Xbox One?

Did it? It's also counting XBone bundles in with that number. Hardly like for like in this instance.

 

[I-hate-u]

What are people's thoughts on Smash U performance based on the 3ds version? Yeah, the handheld install base is bigger, but I feel like a lot of people are willing to double dip, or are holding out on the 3DS version for the U. I think the FGC will contribute a nice chuck to the Smash U sales when it comes out from the tournament scene alone.

 

[bishoptl]

Sold.

I will be Godzilla. Destroyer of worlds.

It feels so good, man. That slow transition from glass cannon to adamantium buzzsaw is EVERYTHING.

I am very happy for Monolith. They deserve all the sales.

 

[Trevelyon]

True but did people actually think that even the standalone sales would do better on the Xbox One?

True dat, while people are being annoyingly flippant about the bundle not included stuff. The pre-existing install base vs. install base on standalone Destiny, is pretty surprising, congrats to Microsoft there.

 

[Game4life]

Stop making this thread smell.

Your post history suggests that you are not taking these results to lightly. Go out get some fresh air and relax. This thread is for discussing numbers and what it could mean for the future.

 

[Verendus]

How much was the gap between ps4 and Xbox one before September in USA?

Going to be about a million now.

 

[Goodacre0081]

We don't know. A good assumption is that the PS4 version outsold the XBO version if you include bundles.

wouldn't the Destiny leaderboards have the answer?

 

[Angelus Errare]

True but did people actually think that even the standalone sales would do better on the Xbox One?

Well it's actually XBO standalone + free game give away > PS4 standalone.

And many people were buying it digitally on PS4 (per Sony) or bundle.

 

[Bgamer90]

Looking at CoD sales in US for PS4:XB1 ( pretty much 50:50), yes.

So you did then?

::shakes your hand::

Thought it would be close due to those COD stats (and stats for other shooters) but I still thought the PS4 standalone would do better.

 

[Kodros]

Didn't sony say this too?

Yep, they said it was their biggest month.

"And the limited-edition Destiny PS4 bundle drove PS4 hardware sales to its biggest month in 2014 - Sony said PS4 hardware numbers "nearly tripled" those of August."

 

[7DollarHagane]

I was really confused about destiny being tops on Xbox one but then I remembered that they were running the free game deal with Xbox one and the destiny ps4 bundle isn't included.

Lots of Xbox one plus destiny sales were included, all destiny ps4 bundles were not included.

 

[>-Baron-Spamedi-<]

So the Xbox One version of standalone Destiny sold more than PS4??

That's only because they were giving it away free in the unofficial bundle, and that counts towards the standalone figures, whereas the PS4 bundle was official and therefore wasn't included, right?

Well it looks like Sony absolutely twatted MS after all.

Pachter? Pah, analyst or anal cyst?

 

[Guymelef]

Destiny sold more on PS4 according to Sony:

Worldwide.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

Well, read the quote from Sony in the OP. "Playstation 4 was the number one console worldwide for sold-through Destiny units."

I'm sure that is including all 3-bundled, digital, and standalone.

 

[IndoAssassin]

Going by August NPD with PS4 at 180K. Nearly trippling that means PS4 is just under 540K?

 

[Into]

There is no way they only did 200k, thats barely a bump from Destiny, surely the game meant something for that console too.

 

[John Bender]

At this point I'm thinking MS doesn't want to give out any details on X1 sales ...

They are trailing behind with the PR and by a good clip ...

200k month?

Whats the record for Year 1 sales on a console anyway? PS4 must be putting whatever it is in danger. They could easily sell 15m year 1.

Hm, my guess is still ~330k

 

[ryuken-d]

lol'd so much, thank you.

Don't be sore loosers guys there is always next month.

 

[Bold One]

Because reviews came out a few days or a week depending on the outlet after Destiny was released.

and after that?

 

[iceatcs]

Retail standalone sales show Density Xbox One sell better. Maybe buy system get a free any game help.

But I'm wondering if digital standalone sales might be different because I suspect lot of PS4 owners want to try pre-load first time.

 

[Mass Effect]

Smash failed at moving 3DS units. Not a good sign for Nintendo if they are hoping Smash U will move Wii U hardware....

Not necessarily. The 3DS is pretty much hitting saturation at this point. Obviously this isn't the case with the Wii U. And many people are probably opting to wait for the Wii U version. I know I am.

 

[CosmicQueso]

Is it across the board rise for new releases or is it mostly benefiting Destiny?

Broad digital data doesn't exist, so tough to say. Recent core releases have trended there, however.

Really looking forward to see if the Call of Dutys and ACs of the world get strong digital share, or if it's more the core gaming audience that is leaning more digital than they have before.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

It feels so good, man. That slow transition from glass cannon to adamantium buzzsaw is EVERYTHING.

I am very happy for Monolith. They deserve all the sales.

Its a great game

I love going around taking out captains

 

[RowdyReverb]

holy fuck, did I really type "MCC collection"? I need to get it together.

It's a collection of all of the previous Master Chief Collections. One unified UI lets players pick which MCC they want to play. Contains 16 games and 24 remastered maps.

 

[orthodoxy1095]

God bless the PSP. That little fucker is still shifting units in Japan.

There's even games still on slate for release by companies like XSEED IIRC. System still got some legs.

 

[Sweep14]

Ok calling it now - GTA V sells more standalone on XB1 because of PS4 bundles.

Impossible ! Rockstargames will not aim for Parity (c) ! *

*

Spoiler

My own Pachter level prediction

 

[sam777]

What are people's thoughts on Smash U performance based on the 3ds version? Yeah, the handheld install base is bigger, but I feel like a lot of people are willing to double dip, or are holding out on the 3DS version for the U. I think the FGC will contribute a nice chuck to the Smash U sales when it comes out from the tournament scene alone.

If Nintendo create a Wii U smash bundle it will do really well. And I see the majority of the current Wii U userbase buying it. Personally I am holding out for the Wii U version.

 

[Rogue_Ledr]

What's 200k from?

I thought I saw it mentioned earlier in the thread.

What are the approximate PS4 and XB1 nunbers though? It seems only the PS4's 500+K number is out there.

XB1 seems to be a mystery. I wonder what it is?

 

[Zalman]

Smash failed at moving 3DS units. Not a good sign for Nintendo if they are hoping Smash U will move Wii U hardware....

I think the New 3DS is going to damage the sales a lot this holiday season. Their fault for not releasing it before Christmas.

 

[Chobel]

Going to be about a million now.

So ~250K gap this month?

 

[jelly]

Time for more price drops and game pack ins for Xbox One or will they wait and see if Halo does it?

There must come a point were consumer preference shifts too far one way, could be this Christmas and you suffer it until the end of the generation.