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NPD Sales Results for September 2014 [Up1: Smash/HW/MK8, Destiny stats, 3DS HW]

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Key2001

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Synless said:
Is wager that with bundles included the PS4 version of Destiny outsold the XBone in the US without a doubt.
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It probably even outsold the XBO when only counting physical+digital. Destiny had a big digital push on the PS4 and Microsoft had the free game promotion during the launch week of Destiny, which would assure the bulk of new XBO owners went physical with Destiny.
 
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John Bender said:
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Classic Greenberg.
 
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Trey

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Bold One said:
As a Halo fan?

what?

is this a parody post?
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Context. I probably should have put "as a person that has been immersed in Bungie's creative culture for a long time and is a fan of sci-fi first person shooters which in particular has recent history that can inform us on what word of mouth can do to a game in Destiny's mold." But I thought "Halo fan" would say all that.
 
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I suspect that if the Sunset Overdrive bundle fails to keep X1 hardware competitive, Microsoft is gonna have to scrap their current bundle strategy (new free game with console purchase) and go to the next tactic on their list - a straight up $49-99 price drop on base H/W MSRP.

So far, their bundling strat at $399 has failed to move the needle vs the competition (Titanfall, Madden, FH2, September free game) and i think the data clearly points out that it's time to move on and try something new.

a $349 bundle with AC:U or MCC should definitely get them back in the hunt but the question is whether or not microsoft is willing to spend that much ($100+) for a single user acquisition.
 
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Cels

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so we know that without bundles, xb1 destiny > ps4 destiny, but with bundles, ps4 destiny > xb1 destiny

but how many more ps4 copies of destiny were sold compared to xb1?
 
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Nirolak said:
Yes, though for a new IP without a gigantic marketing budget that's pretty solid still.

It'd put it in the same ballpark as Dishonored.

A 2-3 million LTD isn't unfeasible, with some potential upside if it has good legs.
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I'm happy to see the game do well. It is my GOTY so far. It's probably already past 1m WW sales and once the last gen versions hit, getting to 2m isn't too much of a stretch. Monolith deserves the success and hopefully, the sequel will be bigger and better.
 
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John Bender

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RawRebel said:
How many people already own a ps4? The Xbox One outsold it despite having an already smaller user base.
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"Outsold" because new Xbone owners got Destiny for free (which counted /NPD).
The Destiny game in the PS4 bundle did not count.
And digital sales don't count either.
 
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IndoAssassin

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RawRebel said:
How many people already own a ps4? The Xbox One outsold it despite having an already smaller user base.
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But when you look at it as an investor, was Sony's deal worth it. How much did they project to sell of the game had they not made the marketing deal. Was the deal profitable for them? By not having the Destiny Bundle, how much consoles did they expect to sell?
 
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A_Gorilla

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juicyfruitas said:
I suspect that if the Sunset Overdrive bundle fails to keep X1 hardware competitive, Microsoft is gonna have to scrap their current bundle strategy (new free game with console purchase) and go to the next tactic on their list - a straight up $49-99 price drop on base H/W MSRP.

So far, their bundling strat at $399 has failed to move the needle vs the competition (Titanfall, Madden, FH2, September free game) and i think the data clearly points out that it's time to move on and try something new.

a $349 bundle with AC:U or MCC should definitely get them back in the hunt but the question is whether or not microsoft is willing to spend that much ($100+) for a single user acquisition.
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They won't. MS actually wants their hardware sales to actually turn a profit this gen.
 
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Orthogonal said:
As disappointed as I am sure they are with the state of things, I give them huge credit for not playing that PR game.
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Aye, same here. It's become so transparent anyways where nearly everyone can pick it apart. Last month's PR being a straight up lie until they clarified must not have gone unnoticed.
 
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Maninthemirror

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juicyfruitas said:
I suspect that if the Sunset Overdrive bundle fails to keep X1 hardware competitive, Microsoft is gonna have to scrap their current bundle strategy (new free game with console purchase) and go to the next tactic on their list - a straight up $49-99 price drop on base H/W MSRP.

So far, their bundling strat at $399 has failed to move the needle vs the competition (Titanfall, Madden, FH2, September free game) and i think the data clearly points out that it's time to move on and try something new.

a $349 bundle with AC:U or MCC should definitely get them back in the hunt but the question is whether or not microsoft is willing to spend that much ($100+) for a single user acquisition.
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Or you know resort to being number 2 for this cycle
 
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TimeEffect

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le.phat said:
Halo can't do shit against that GTA5 bundle.
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Maybe not...

I wonder if R* will announce any expansion packs for Christmas season, which would release exclusively on PS4 (first). That would really seal the deal. Where is the GTA V DLC anyway?

It's basically GTA V/Far Cry/LBP bundles vs. Assassin's Creed/Sunset OD/Halo/COD bundles (I assume these bundles will exist)

I am also expecting MS to pull out all the stops to bend prices and offer credit to sell Xbox, and I wonder if Sony is confident enough to just sell the bundles without extra deals.

November is going to be something.

On top of all this, if Sony beats MS in November when they have such a poor library for the holiday season (Driveclub scores/LBP is multiplat) compared to MS, it's going to be real bad for MS.
 
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hydrophilic attack

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Seriously though, MS will have to market the Master Chief Collection like crazy. That's their last chance at the top spot in a long time, unless they have a pricedrop lined up.
 
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Toki767

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juicyfruitas said:
I suspect that if the Sunset Overdrive bundle fails to keep X1 hardware competitive, Microsoft is gonna have to scrap their current bundle strategy (new free game with console purchase) and go to the next tactic on their list - a straight up $49-99 price drop on base H/W MSRP.

So far, their bundling strat at $399 has failed to move the needle vs the competition (Titanfall, Madden, FH2, September free game) and i think the data clearly points out that it's time to move on and try something new.

a $349 bundle with AC:U or MCC should definitely get them back in the hunt but the question is whether or not microsoft is willing to spend that much ($100+) for a single user acquisition.
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They need to just take that $100 hit. $349 isn't some mental barrier to cross the way $299 is.
 
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Trust me. I'm a PhD

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Trey said:
Context. I probably should have put "as a person that has been immersed in Bungie's creative culture for a long time and is a fan of sci-fi first person shooters which in particular has recent history that can inform us on what word of mouth can do to a game in Destiny's mold." But I thought "Halo fan" would say all that.
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As a Halo fan literally everyone on my friends list save for one owns/plays/enjoys the game. Maybe there is more than one type of Halo fan?
 
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Dr_LucienSanchez

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Hahah, I just saw via the comments on the VentureBeat article that Kevin Dent is somehow still claiming that Destiny sales worldwide are greater on the xbone than the PS4.

This is despite that worldwide press release from Activision and Sony.
 
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juicyfruitas said:
I suspect that if the Sunset Overdrive bundle fails to keep X1 hardware competitive, Microsoft is gonna have to scrap their current bundle strategy (new free game with console purchase) and go to the next tactic on their list - a straight up $49-99 price drop on base H/W MSRP.

So far, their bundling strat at $399 has failed to move the needle vs the competition (Titanfall, Madden, FH2, September free game) and i think the data clearly points out that it's time to move on and try something new.

a $349 bundle with AC:U or MCC should definitely get them back in the hunt but the question is whether or not microsoft is willing to spend that much ($100+) for a single user acquisition.
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First party + $349 would be ideal to increase sales without paying out to another company. Microsoft needs to move fast because if they don't, then all of those people still playing their 360's might not move to an Xbox.
 
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TimeEffect said:
Maybe not...

I wonder if R* will announce any expansion packs for Christmas season, which would release exclusively on PS4 (first). That would really seal the deal. Where is the GTA V DLC anyway?

It's basically GTA V/Far Cry/LBP bundles vs. Assassin's Creed/Sunset OD/Halo/COD bundles (I assume these bundles will exist)

I am also expecting MS to pull out all the stops to bend prices and offer credit to sell Xbox, and I wonder if Sony is confident enough to just sell the bundles without extra deals.

November is going to be something.

On top of all this, if Sony beats MS in November when they have such a poor library for the holiday season (Driveclub scores/LBP is multiplat) compared to MS, it's going to be real bad for MS.
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I was just thinking this. If MS after the month of December is trailing Sony by a million consoles or more at the start of the new year. Then they are in trouble. Worldwide they are getting destroyed. I just don't see what they could do at that point.
 
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