Karsticles
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NPD Sales Results for September 2014 [Up1: Smash/HW/MK8, Destiny stats, 3DS HW]
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CrazedProfessional
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I just mean in general the "center of the living room" dream atleast misled 2/3.
Microsoft's not trying to go back to where they lost a huge amount of money with the Original Xbox & through the 2005-2007 years of Xbox 360. Otherwise, they would've lowered the price of Xbox One to $400 with Kinect.
Just because they have a lot of money doesn't mean it's for the Xbox brand, & it doesn't mean that they're going to keep pouring money into the brand without making back a lot of profit.
Different systems & different OS's, bro.
Yh that tripling of sales from the previous month, one of the best performances in September NPD history, leading sales on next-gen platform for multiple plats expect one, Doubling PS Plus subs in the week of Destiny launch, 90% increase in revenue on PS store yoy. All nothing /s
Compared to co-marketing from MS
Madden 15 again lost and was the worst selling version, Fifa lost.
one million really isn't that much of a gap...
I thought Sony was blowing Microsoft out the water in the US.
I just never hear people talking about playing their xbox 1 out here I guess
That's not too bad for them then, Microsoft is doing fine in their home market, they just are not in first place.
Maybe i'll throw them a pity bone and buy their system for a second time during the holidays
Ashad Mamood
Banned
No!You gotta love the guy and his desperate attempts to put X1 sales in a good light compared to PS4. An idiot knew which was the best selling console last month!
RamzaIsCool
The Amiga Brotherhood
Haha you are taking this stuff way to serious man. Hopefully you are just trolling people, if not then.... yeah...
I agree with the your general premise but the Wii ≠ PS4. The only way PS4 sales are going to crash Wii style is if the entire industry crashes Wii style. Besides, I wouldn't think saturation points matter. The point of hardware is to sell software, yeah? So if the PS4 hits 100 Million (or something) and plateaus, good! That's 100 Million units that can buy software.. I think.
Also, the XB1's innards (mainly referring to RAM which has for the most part already bottomed out in price) are no more if not less liable to drop than the PS4's innards (GDDR5 which is still at a relative premium I assume). And neither have the PS4's big hitters hit either. Uncharted, God of War, Gran Turismo...
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
It wouldn't be spin though would it. Is it best to leave it (if indeed they did sell over 500k) and let people think they sold a lot less consoles?
Aces&Eights
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I also think digital is picking up steam. I pre-ordered AC and Far Cry for my first digital games two weeks ago. That preload is just too good.
Edit: my first AAA games.
Digital doesn't count for either console, you all make it seem like most XB1 owners don't also go the digital route.
I agree it overall probably sold higher on the PS4, but this is the metric we are given.
Overall we should all be happy that a new IP launched well, and it will probably outsell the newest Bro of Duty game in a few weeks.
We are all here to celebrate good games, yes the sales gaf topics are fun, but lets just all relish in the fact that console gaming is alive and well!
I agree it overall probably sold higher on the PS4, but this is the metric we are given.
Overall we should all be happy that a new IP launched well, and it will probably outsell the newest Bro of Duty game in a few weeks.
We are all here to celebrate good games, yes the sales gaf topics are fun, but lets just all relish in the fact that console gaming is alive and well!
EnVy_CaLiBeR
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Did not see Destiny (standalone) selling more on X1 at all coming. Pretty impressive especially since Sony has a significantly larger user base.
Glad to see great games deserving to be up there such as D3 and Shadow of Mordor.
Glad to see great games deserving to be up there such as D3 and Shadow of Mordor.
BruiserBear
Banned
When did you turn into one of the most bitter warriors around here? I'm serious. You used to be far more measured and reasonable.
shinra-bansho
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Lol, I didn't see the Ubi conference.
I can finally live out my secret fantasy of joining a virtual flashmob.
You know in your heart of hearts you want it too.
I don't see why it's not possible for the PS4 to sustain the momentum. It's entirely possible for the PS4 to be the best selling system in history, given the overall expansion of the video game market and the relative weakness of the second and third place consoles (particularly relative to last generation).
To be honest, only the Xbox One was made as a Set-Top Box in mind first, gaming second. PS4 was the one in which it was made with gaming in mind, just like with Xbox 360.
I would hazard a guess that the percentage of people who go digital is still not the majority, on any of the consoles.
Swass
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I believe this is incorrect, Sony built the PS4 for price wars had the cheaper BOM. I believe the Xbox One SOC is what raises the cost of the Xbox One.
Assuming the XBO also had a decent boost for the month (at least an additional 100k), I think the bulk of the sales would had been during the week of the promotion and Destiny launch rather than spread out over the month.
Regardless of the exact amount I think the promotion is what allowed the physical standalone version of Destiny to pull ahead on XBO.
Pocky4Th3Win
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I find this attitude funny. Just because MS has played their hand already with predictable games/series while Sony remaining silent on the future games doesn't mean Sony doesn't have anything in the works. Hell Sony has Persona 5 exclusive to their platforms and it probably has a higher popularity than Final Fantasy as of late.
Zombie James
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The PS4 is nothing like the Wii. Thank fuck.
The PS4 selling over 550,000 units is remarkable. It's clear that banking on Destiny was the right move.
Agreed. It's time for Microsoft to step it up, because at the current rate, the Xbox One is losing more than just market share. Mind share is incredibly difficult to regain, so Microsoft have their work cut out for them. It's going to take a lot of work to keep up with the PS4.
Agreed. It's time for Microsoft to step it up, because at the current rate, the Xbox One is losing more than just market share. Mind share is incredibly difficult to regain, so Microsoft have their work cut out for them. It's going to take a lot of work to keep up with the PS4.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Sony sold a huge amount of consoles and they had record breaking digital sales. Those two things put this into perspective.
Sony is going to have its own deals and bundles, I'm sure they're preparing something GTAV related, they have yet to announce the whole story about the exclusive features of the PS4 version of GTAV (those things that leaked like Move support, free credits and more), Europe already got the bundle announcement but the price is pretty much the standard price of every PS4 bundle, in the US they might be preparing something Black Friday specific (like white PS4+ GTAV at 399$ during the BF week).
But the key point here is that PS4 is just the most desired console, it has the mindshare, people want to buy that product specifically. Same thing that happened last gen in the US with the 360.
It will be hard for Microsoft to change that, they need to undercut PS4 price by 100$ if they want to gain ground back in the US.
Also an other problem with multiplatform releases selling much better on the PS4 is that it will become more expensive and more difficult for them to get marketing deals, publishers will concede less at a higher price. The deals we'll see next year are being made right now based on current sales trends.
Btw where is creamsugar?
Where did I say that? I am pointing out the only surprise of the month.
That was my point, it seems like people are like bu bu bu if digital was in there too! PS4... 6 of my friends went digital... etc.
Metalingus5150
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Not even Bloodborne?
EventHorizon
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I think specialization is the key. Phones, smart TVs and $99 set top boxes will be way to much competition to compete on ancillary multimedia feature. Console will have a lot of innate processing power so if they can offer those features without adding to the price of the box then those extra features can be a nice differentiating factor from other consoles. However, the gaming feature must come first. They are what sell a $400-$500 dollar box. If you are trying to sell your console based on features that can be had cheaper elsewhere, then you have already lost.
Well I think 360 is leading with 20M over PS3 in the US or something like that.
So any lead for PS4 in the US is quite the turnaround.
Dragonborn
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How much more can MS step it up. The only thing they could do is drop $100 but then they'd risk Sony responding. And a $299 PS4 would be even tougher to deal with
I think there is a good chance depending on how SCEA moves forward at this stage. They will have some strong plans for their marketing push, especially considering the increased promotions Microsoft has been doing, and that was without Black Friday or the Halo collection/AC bundles upcoming. SCEE is basically sitting pretty for the most part, and they're already doing things better from a promotional standpoint, but that's without the additional pressure SCEA has. Most of the budget dedicated for this is always held back until this period, and this is the first year (a tremendous year all things considered), so naturally they're going to feel a bit of weight on their shoulders.
GTA5 is the next key title really. They're going to put full effort behind that, since it's really the biggest title available to them, along with Far Cry. I'm personally hoping they have some solid plans for LBP3 to push it on the PS4 more. LBP3, I feel, is going to have it rough from them because it can quite easily be lost in the middle of everything happening.
One million is enough for nobody in Sony cares about loosing November NPD for a few thousands.
Freeman
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Some comments are just sad and desperate at this point coming from Xbox fans. You had to be completely naive to fall for Pachter prediction, there was no chance of that happening.
The reception to Halo is what will define if the Xbox One will be able to put up a challenge for Sony in the US, if they don't end 2014 ahead I can't see them taking the lead in 2015 at all. The end of 2014 is where the PS4 will be vulnerable, 2015 is pretty much a guaranteed big year for the PS4 opening with big exclusives like Bloodborne and The Orther, with no lack of huge third party releases and finishing the year with Uncharted.
The perception of multiplataform titles running better on PS4 is extremely hard for the Xbox One to overcome, multis end up helping PS4 much more. The early lead is extremely valuable with the increased importance of online play.
Updating the OS faster is one thing MS is doing much better, but even tho that matters for the player is not something that will increase sales.
The reception to Halo is what will define if the Xbox One will be able to put up a challenge for Sony in the US, if they don't end 2014 ahead I can't see them taking the lead in 2015 at all. The end of 2014 is where the PS4 will be vulnerable, 2015 is pretty much a guaranteed big year for the PS4 opening with big exclusives like Bloodborne and The Orther, with no lack of huge third party releases and finishing the year with Uncharted.
The perception of multiplataform titles running better on PS4 is extremely hard for the Xbox One to overcome, multis end up helping PS4 much more. The early lead is extremely valuable with the increased importance of online play.
Updating the OS faster is one thing MS is doing much better, but even tho that matters for the player is not something that will increase sales.
They've executed the last 18 months perfectly. Whether they can do the same for the next 5-6 years remains to be seen.
This is Sony after-all.
(´･_･`)
aaronwt
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Of course they would be ahead. I do wish they would start incorporating digital sales into the results. Every game I purchase for my PS4 and Xbox Ones are digital. So I guess none of them have ever counted toward any sales figures.
I do hope they have some good deals this holiday. I plan on picking up a second PS4 this quarter. Although IF the Xbox One has some crazy low prices then I might pick up a third one for my tertiary setup. Otherwise I will just wait for both systems to have a smaller version(or more energy efficient version) before picking up a third PS4 or Xbox One.
autoduelist
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Yeah, I'm sure Sony wishes it sold only half that number in September. Hopefully no Sony accountants jump out windows because it's selling too fast for its own good.
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Welfare
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Holy shit. This made me laugh more than the Pachter gif.I think more people are like....
And just a few are like....
I honestly think a price drop plus a new 1 TB model should make that 2 million difference happen. Any word on your end Verendus? Even a hint? Or will that result in a ban?
EventHorizon
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As opposed to trying to claim some kind of pyrrhic victory and spawn a bunch of threads on social media detailing how they are losing to the PS4.
Edit: It'd be one thing if the consoles were neck and neck in sales trading off months for leadership, but the XB1 is clearing lagging. They don't need to call attention to that fact.
Welfare
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Less than 90k
FalsettoVibe
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That's the biggest hurdle to overcome.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
LOL. I love this post so much. The misplaced subject and verb in the last sentence is just so damned funny ... *ouch* Hate those full stops.
Portugeezer
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I was also surprised until I saw that the free Destiny offer MS did counted as a sale.
Swass
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But.. but 13 countries.. oh wait..
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