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Halo: The Master Chief Collection will have a 20GB day one "content update".

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Akai__

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I still want to know about the languages included with Halo: MCC. Do we have any information on it? Digital and Retail.

Switchable in-game? Switchable in Xbox One settings?

And do you know when the 20gb update will be available?

It sounded like they are still working on it, but it should probably be available pretty soon. Just make sure you activate auto updates.
 
So why cant they make the 20 GB download available for everyone including the people who are getting the disc version? Just put it up on the XBL marketplace now?

That way people with shitty internet dont have to wait for a week or whatever AFTER they buy the game to actually play multiplayer.
 

Mr Reasonable

Completely Unreasonable
Seriously, I'm over here having an internal dilemma trying to decide whether to go disc or digital right now.

You have weeks to download it and the game promises more hours of gameplay than any other on the system.

If you're going to buy only one game digitally, I don't see why it wouldn't be this one. Assuming you think you'll actually play it.
 
So why cant they make the 20 GB download available for everyone including the people who are getting the disc version? Just put it up on the XBL marketplace now?

That way people with shitty internet dont have to wait for a week or whatever AFTER they buy the game to actually play multiplayer.
I'm not sure how downloading a patch BEFORE installing the content being patched would work...
 

JAYSIMPLE

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I've pre ordered digitally. I'm guessing there's nothing else to worry about. I have auto downloads on. Best gaming product ever. Can not wait 343. Let's go
 

Akai__

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So why cant they make the 20 GB download available for everyone including the people who are getting the disc version? Just put it up on the XBL marketplace now?

That way people with shitty internet dont have to wait for a week or whatever AFTER they buy the game to actually play multiplayer.

That should be possible, but only if this 20GB update doesn't overwerite previously installed data. If it does, it would be pointless, because you would overwirte the new data with old data as soon as you install the game and you would have to download the 20GB again. That's what I'm assuming, why it doesn't work.

I know lot's of people are frustrated about it, but I hope most people will forget this after they have seen 343i's final work.
 
I'm not sure how downloading a patch BEFORE installing the content being patched would work...

Why not? Just have the "patch" launch and detect if the drive is in the disc and proceed to install.

Its not a novel concept, we were doing this shit in 1998 or whatever on PC games before Steam took over. Non DRMd games still let you do this. You shouldnt have to have the game installed to download a patch for it, not when patches are huge and are being done this shittily. Just have the game pretend that its DLC or something.
 

JayEH

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Was thinking about getting this physically through the MS store for that $15 deal but with this 20 gig patch I think I may just pre order it digitally.
 
Why not? Just have the "patch" launch and detect if the drive is in the disc and proceed to install.

Its not a novel concept, we were doing this shit in 1998 or whatever on PC games before Steam took over. Non DRMd games still let you do this. You dont have to have the game installed to download a patch for it. Just have the game pretend that its DLC or something.
I know it's completely feasible in general, I'm just not sure how it would work on Xbox One specifically. I highly, highly doubt the console as is would support installing a proper patch before the actual software, and your simple solution of treating it as DLC isn't as simple as you make it out to be. A lot of special programming would have to go into converting an X1 patch into add-on content. Just because it's simple on PC, doesn't mean it's simple on X1.
 

Prine

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What about people with data cap?
They have no place gaming nor any form of media rich service. Why the hell would you put yourself on a cap unless you have no money, if that is the case then priorites need to be assesed with gaming being so costly. Unlimited internet is cheap so I doubt that is the case.
 
They have no place gaming nor any form of media rich service. Why the hell would you put yourself on a cap unless you have no money, if that is the case then priorites need to be assesed with gaming being so costly. Can't have everything if you have little.
Genuinely not sure if joking.

Many markets have no choice in the matter - it's either an ISP with caps, or no Internet.
 
Thank goodness for the early pre-load considering I have yet to figure out a method to actually get this thing to complete it's download without reverting back to a previous % of completeness.

Always-on (downloading with the system on or off), Energy saving mode (downloading only with the system on)...nothing seems to work.

Hopefully they are aware of the issues and this gets sorted.

Never had issue with any other digital download on the system.

I need my favorite gaming franchise complete on my hard-drive taunting me as soon as possible.
 

leng jai

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They have no place gaming nor any form of media rich service. Why the hell would you put yourself on a cap unless you have no money, if that is the case then priorites need to be assesed with gaming being so costly. Unlimited internet is cheap so I doubt that is the case.

Incredibly daft post.
 

Bgamer90

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They have no place gaming nor any form of media rich service. Why the hell would you put yourself on a cap unless you have no money, if that is the case then priorites need to be assesed with gaming being so costly. Unlimited internet is cheap so I doubt that is the case.

You do realize that many people have no choice and that the only internet services they can get are ones with data caps right?
 
They have no place gaming nor any form of media rich service. Why the hell would you put yourself on a cap unless you have no money, if that is the case then priorites need to be assesed with gaming being so costly. Unlimited internet is cheap so I doubt that is the case.

In some countries only top tier ISP packages offer unlimited bandwidth. In Australia the average cap would be 50-100GB /month. Unlimited internet with my ISP is $100 /month. Just because we can't afford/rationalise spending that much on internet we shouldn't play games socially? Wow.
 
50-100gb will allow you to download that update... I'm in australia and I won't have an issue but I'm pre-loading the lot with a 200gb cap.

saying that, I'm still for an install disc just to cover everything, it's the smart thing to do even though the majority won't really be put out... and others might not be able to play multi straight away which is just a no it inconvenience
 

JayEH

Junior Member
They have no place gaming nor any form of media rich service. Why the hell would you put yourself on a cap unless you have no money, if that is the case then priorites need to be assesed with gaming being so costly. Unlimited internet is cheap so I doubt that is the case.

...Joking?
 

Haxxona

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I know it's completely feasible in general, I'm just not sure how it would work on Xbox One specifically. I highly, highly doubt the console as is would support installing a proper patch before the actual software, and your simple solution of treating it as DLC isn't as simple as you make it out to be. A lot of special programming would have to go into converting an X1 patch into add-on content. Just because it's simple on PC, doesn't mean it's simple on X1.
Actually I remember downloading the bf3 patches on 360 via the Xbox live marketplace. Granted it wasn't before I had a copy but if it were on the marketplace surely it would work if you hadnt gotten the game yet. The patch would have been sitting there waiting for the game and then it could install.
 
Simple, marketable(?) solution: Sell an extra disc in a cardboard case/cover with the "content update" on it, separately to the game itself, maybe $5 or something. I'd buy it just to have everything physical.

Bad idea? idk.
 
They have no place gaming nor any form of media rich service. Why the hell would you put yourself on a cap unless you have no money, if that is the case then priorites need to be assesed with gaming being so costly. Unlimited internet is cheap so I doubt that is the case.

Life inside a bubble must be a wonderful thing. Peoples data caps are not always by choice, nor does everyone have access to good plans as ISP's dictate the restrictions so it's out of users hands.
 

Goron2000

best junior ever
The amount of people here telling others to stop jumping to conclusions about why they will not include an extra disc and then immediately coming up with their own conclusion is hilarious.
 

Akai__

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They have no place gaming nor any form of media rich service. Why the hell would you put yourself on a cap unless you have no money, if that is the case then priorites need to be assesed with gaming being so costly. Unlimited internet is cheap so I doubt that is the case.

You would think, that people would support each other and blame the ISP's for these stupid data caps... Instead, people are blaming the consumer. I have no words for this.
 
They have no place gaming nor any form of media rich service. Why the hell would you put yourself on a cap unless you have no money, if that is the case then priorites need to be assesed with gaming being so costly. Unlimited internet is cheap so I doubt that is the case.

Video game elitism, personally I'm all for trying to maintain low data amounts because it affects so many aspects of the experience: download times/bandwidth, disc space, HDD space, and install times. Other media services (film/audio) are always looking into tech to reduce the amount of data needed, I don't know why gaming should be different?
 

SatansReverence

Hipster Princess
They have no place gaming nor any form of media rich service. Why the hell would you put yourself on a cap unless you have no money, if that is the case then priorites need to be assesed with gaming being so costly. Unlimited internet is cheap so I doubt that is the case.

$105 a month for 15gb and it's the second best I have available ($150 for 25gb is the very best) with absolutely no other option other than 28.8k dial-up.

But please, do continue living in a bubble.
 
They have no place gaming nor any form of media rich service. Why the hell would you put yourself on a cap unless you have no money, if that is the case then priorites need to be assesed with gaming being so costly. Unlimited internet is cheap so I doubt that is the case.

So they shouldnt have access to Internet at all because they "Choose" Data capped internet? Such a damned elitist post that makes my blood boil.
 

Sojgat

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They have no place gaming nor any form of media rich service. Why the hell would you put yourself on a cap unless you have no money, if that is the case then priorites need to be assesed with gaming being so costly. Unlimited internet is cheap so I doubt that is the case.

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I still want to know about the languages included with Halo: MCC. Do we have any information on it? Digital and Retail.

Switchable in-game? Switchable in Xbox One settings?

I was wondering the same thing as this is very important to me. I want to buy the game digitally, but I'm not sure if I can make it work via a different marketplace than the German one. I'd have to set up the whole US address thing first, I guess.

But according to the description on Xbox.com, these languages are all supported:
English, French, Italian, German, Spanish, Danish, Dutch, Finnish, Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese, Russian, Swedish, Turkish, Japanese, Korean, Chinese.

No idea which ones have voice-over, though. But I need the original voices!
 

le.phat

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They have no place gaming nor any form of media rich service. Why the hell would you put yourself on a cap unless you have no money, if that is the case then priorites need to be assesed with gaming being so costly. Unlimited internet is cheap so I doubt that is the case.

Please tell me there is a reference in there. Please.
 

TheF1BOB

Banned
They have no place gaming nor any form of media rich service. Why the hell would you put yourself on a cap unless you have no money, if that is the case then priorites need to be assesed with gaming being so costly. Unlimited internet is cheap so I doubt that is the case.

Put a cap on it mate, some of us don't have a choice.
 

Lothars

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They have no place gaming nor any form of media rich service. Why the hell would you put yourself on a cap unless you have no money, if that is the case then priorites need to be assesed with gaming being so costly. Unlimited internet is cheap so I doubt that is the case.
You are being moronic, It's definitely not the case everywhere and your delusional if you think that.

Unknown, but then that's the problem with everyone jumping to all these "inept" and "anti-consumer" conclusions. There's more than a few reasons it could be. I highly doubt an actual patch could be installed from a disc on Xbox One, and it's possible that installing add-on content from a disc isn't (yet?) supported by the console either (the fact that it works on 360 is largely meaningless here). Also, even if add-on content from a disc is supported on Xbox One, there are still reasons why it may not be feasible. We don't know what exactly is contained in the update, but it's entirely possible that programming the game to take in whatever content is there as "DLC" would be technically infeasible or would at least take much too long, especially if the need for more space wasn't established until too late in the development process.

Basically, we don't know enough yet to make all these hasty judgments, particularly when "to save money" doesn't make much sense (the cost to print a second disc is basically negligible, and it's not like millions of people downloading 20GB of patch data at once is exactly ideal, even for MS) and the whole "they're just stupid/inept" thing is just, well, stupid.
We Know MS would screw customers over with a drop of the hat. We know that Frankie said it wasn't possible to do. I think someone is holding back and doing more damage by having this update and it's a negative for this game.

There's no positive reason to not have another disc unless it's not able to at all and if that's the case than MS should be taken to task for it.
 

Big-E

Member
Really is frustrating how games got so big so quickly. I live in the developing world and having to wait a week pretty much to download something absolutely sucks.
 

Ataxia

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$105 a month for 15gb and it's the second best I have available ($150 for 25gb is the very best) with absolutely no other option other than 28.8k dial-up.

But please, do continue living in a bubble.

I was on that for two years... haha. Damn Telstra. I know your pain. Recently switched over to a wired connection (finally became available) and get 200GB for 95. :\
 
I'm surprised and somewhat disappointed in the gamers who have been showing disdain towards people with data caps or speed limits, just because something doesn't effect you doesn't mean it won't effect someone else
 

Madness

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So why cant they make the 20 GB download available for everyone including the people who are getting the disc version? Just put it up on the XBL marketplace now?

That way people with shitty internet dont have to wait for a week or whatever AFTER they buy the game to actually play multiplayer.

More than likely they are still tweaking the content/update and will release it closer to launch. I'd assume, given how much attention they give to fan concerns, you'd probably be able to download it a few days before launch.
 
I'll be really curious to see the eventual breakdown of storage space. Pulled from ripped 360 images, this is the [rough] amount of storage space required by the three 360 games:

Halo - Combat Evolved Anniversary - 6.51 GB
Halo 3 - 4.85 GB
Halo 4 - 10.90 GB

If we add DLC, Halo 3 had about 1.7 GB and Halo 4 had about 4.2 GB. Then adding everything together, we'll get 28.16 GB. So let's just round that up to 30, which leaves 20 GB available on the disk.

Halo 2 was roughly 2.6 GB on the OG Xbox (!!!), but we can assume that the remaster is going to bulk that up considerably. 40 GB seems like a lot though. Is that TV show going to be included?
 

Raide

Member
Waiting for the retail copy, then doing the update is going to suck. I want to predownload the update now before my disc arrives? I am getting it as part of the console bundle, so I cannot cancel and get the digital version instead.
 
I'll be really curious to see the eventual breakdown of storage space. Pulled from ripped 360 images, this is the [rough] amount of storage space required by the three 360 games:



If we add DLC, Halo 3 had about 1.7 GB and Halo 4 had about 4.2 GB. Then adding everything together, we'll get 28.16 GB. So let's just round that up to 30, which leaves 20 GB available on the disk.

Halo 2 was roughly 2.6 GB on the OG Xbox (!!!), but we can assume that the remaster is going to bulk that up considerably. 40 GB seems like a lot though. Is that TV show going to be included?

Halo 2 xbox is over 4gb
 
I'll be really curious to see the eventual breakdown of storage space. Pulled from ripped 360 images, this is the [rough] amount of storage space required by the three 360 games:



If we add DLC, Halo 3 had about 1.7 GB and Halo 4 had about 4.2 GB. Then adding everything together, we'll get 28.16 GB. So let's just round that up to 30, which leaves 20 GB available on the disk.

Halo 2 was roughly 2.6 GB on the OG Xbox (!!!), but we can assume that the remaster is going to bulk that up considerably. 40 GB seems like a lot though. Is that TV show going to be included?

Halo Nightfall? It's a separate download.
 
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