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[TheF1BOB]

Pointless? It was a move to promote and push Xbox One, if it does (true next gen TR) then he made a great move. There's nothing wrong with what he did, actually glad we get TR which will benefit from dev focused purely on one console.

And they are offering tons of exclusive content. e3 for Xbox one was good and him coming out and green lighting Crackdown, Phantom Dust pushing Xbox one OS to be driven by fans, bringing back Rod Ferguson to drive Gears, removing kinnect to provide options, letting Rare be Rare! And so much more over the last 6 months is more than enough evidence to gauge he's a positive force for Xbox gamers, more so than any other since my boys Allard and Ed Fries.

Pretty much. The only thing I didn't like is how he handled the whole is it a exclusive/timid exclusive thing at the time.

Should of just came out and made it clear from the get go, instead of being cryptic about it.

I'm more depressed to your words, to be honest, if you want to know.

I will continue to post.

 

[Ol No Bones]

Because it was coming anyway to xbox owners and all he did was delay the other versions of the game, so he didn't do any good to Xbox owners for doing that deal other than some bragging rights.

Again he works for Microsoft and exclusive content even for a little while can be an incentive come holiday 15 if people are still on the fence. Also we do not know the details of the deal so we don't know if this game is going to be on the PS4 soon after the XB1 release or at all really. Yes I realize it is likely that TR is going to be on PS4 but until SE announce it we are all just making assumptions. If the Sony only crowd is upset their anger should primarily be at SE Phil Spencer was only doing the best for his consumer base when the opportunity presented itself.

 

[CoG]

The cult of personality surrounding him reminds me of Obama circa 2008. "Change change change" is "games games games". Five years later Guantanamo Bay is still open. I'm largely apolitical, I just see parallels in how people went apeshit back in 2008 and today have regrets.

If MS gets out of the underdog slot let's see then how he acts. MS is great at giving 200% when they're down but follow up by slacking off or overdoing the hubris when competition is no longer a concern (Sony too).

 

[Nightengale]

wasn't his job acquiring games before he bacame head of xbox? So the one thing we def. could give him credit for is exactly that?

Anyways, there have been changes for the better since he took the position, he is likeable and seems passionate about gaming. That is all you could ever ask for in a gaming executive.

Spoiler

I believe....

He's been head of the first-party unit for years, so he's certainly had a big say on their strategy. Don't forget Mojang, either.

I'm referring to content improvements after the promotion, which we will not see until post-2016 anyway.

 

[funkypie]

Phil Spencer is a yes man nothing more. After the bone backlash they had no choice to get rid of that tool and replace him with someone else. The new guy (Phil) was hardly going to repeat the same corperate line as the old guy is he.

 

[Leependi]

Yeah Phil seems a cool guy, I saw him on the Giant Bomb E3 stuff. He seems much more aware of what it is people actually want.

Sony has cool guys too though with Shuhei and Adam Boyes plus of course the mighty Jack Tretton (rip)

 

[btags]

Yeah Phil seems a cool guy, I saw him on the Giant Bomb E3 stuff. He seems much more aware of what it is people actually want.

Sony has cool guys too though with Shuhei and Adam Boyes plus of course the mighty Jack Tretton (rip)

Haha, it's not like Tretton is dead.

 

[omonimo]

Phil Spencer is a yes man nothing more. After the bone backlash they had no choice to get rid of that tool and replace him with someone else. The new guy (Phil) was hardly going to repeat the same corperate line as the old guy is he.

I definitely agre with you. Some of the last moves, give me more than a suspect about him. He know how to talk but Mojan & the exclusive 'attitude' show me a side of him I don't like at all.

 

[Sydle]

MS's E3 conference was clearly an attempt to rebrand the Xbone as a 'games-first' machine, and yet I see no substantial change in its outlook. The same goes for the people on GAF who felt that Spencer would be a breath of fresh air (I hope that he would too).

The whole conference was games only though, which hasn't been the case for a Microsoft E3 conference in years. In the same conference he announced Xbox Feedback, marking a shift to more actively listen to the fans. He actually takes interviews and answers questions in a way we want to hear. The fan reception has been markedly different, and there have been numerous threads with positive comments about what he's doing, so what else do you think that's coming from? You believe it's all artificial and no fans have those genuine feelings?

I take it you're looking for more hard evidence of games and that's perfectly reasonable. I'll just say he's been at the job only 6 months and E3 was the beginning of month 3. I think I can safely assume you'd agree even the wildest expectations couldn't have included the idea that Spencer was going to make a dearth of new exclusives appear in that amount of time. Realistically we're looking at 2-3 years to see if he makes good on his claimed priority of new IP and exclusives.

Personally, as a day-one owner and enthusiast, and someone who has followed the brand very closely over the last two generations, the tone and message feel better. I appreciate that he comes across more genuine, that he admits mistakes and doesn't downplay his involvement in past decisions, recognizes fan reception of games like KI and puts a stake in the ground to bring back more old IP, talks about games he plays, and states new IP and exclusives are his priority. Mattrick, Whitten, and Yusuf never did any of that. And yes, Spencer was there the whole time and perhaps he could have done some of those things before, but he's doing them now and being pretty consistent about it. I'm pretty excited to see what he delivers. And if he doesn't deliver then I'll reassess how I feel.

 

[RayMaker]

He didn't secure shit except a delay for PS4 owners. There's literally zero value beyond bragging rights for Xbone players in MS paying to delay the PS4 version.

For the amount of money that they're spunking away on these completely pointless deals they could be making actual new exclusive content for Xbone players. But MS don't have any interest in that. It's something that they've demonstrated thoroughly over the last 5+ years, that they have only a minimum level of concern for providing actual exclusive content for their platform, and a far greater level of interest in punishing the people who don't buy it through their crappy 'exclusivity' deals.

You say the money there using for the TR deal could be used to make original content. This is not the case.Original content takes time.they saw the Tr opportunity and realised it could fill a void in there 2015 portfolio.
Even if the deal was not on, There other plans in regards to original exclusive content would not change.
Exclusive droughts are inevitable, deals like these solve the issue.

 

[StudioTan]

Phil Spencer is a yes man nothing more. After the bone backlash they had no choice to get rid of that tool and replace him with someone else. The new guy (Phil) was hardly going to repeat the same corperate line as the old guy is he.

That's not what a yes man is.

 

[Chobel]

Again he works for Microsoft and exclusive content even for a little while can be an incentive come holiday 15 if people are still on the fence. Also we do not know the details of the deal so we don't know if this game is going to be on the PS4 soon after the XB1 release or at all really. Yes I realize it is likely that TR is going to be on PS4 but until SE announce it we are all just making assumptions. If the Sony only crowd is upset their anger should primarily be at SE Phil Spencer was only doing the best for his consumer base when the opportunity presented itself.

Actually we know: We know SE are able to develop and publish the games themselves without MS help. Source: Kagari, and we Know the game is coming to PS4 later. Source: Many insiders including shinobi and bruce, you can also add the way PRs are worded.

It's not only the Sony crowd, there are also PC gamers. And Phil takes the blame along with SE because:

1. He's the one that offered the money
2. He could have use that money for other stuff other than moneyhatting other platforms out.

 

[wapplew]

As Sony fan boy, he's might be a cool dude, but I feel he doesn't have character, a faceless leader.
This might be unpopular view, as bad as Matrick did, I think he was the better leader with a vision. It might not turn out for him but the original vision of Xbox one was a brave move.
What Spencer did so far, all I saw was follow the leader philosophy.
Every changes he made was the most rational move that everyone in this forum could predict.
Another thing, he doesn't look like "take one for the team" kind of guy. Every time a PR disaster happened, either Yusuf Mehdi or Aaron Greenberg bite the bullet. He's always the innocent one, might be fans paint it that way.

 

[TheF1BOB]

Phil Spencer is a yes man nothing more. After the bone backlash they had no choice to get rid of that tool and replace him with someone else. The new guy (Phil) was hardly going to repeat the same corperate line as the old guy is he.

Yes man? will wait for confirmation in the next couple of years.

 

[Florida_Man_5000]

I don't understand people. You lay the blame of every misstep at Mattrick's feet like he was some unstoppable dictator enforcing his every whim on the lowly serfs of the entire Xbox team. And you lay every success at Spencer's feet like he's the knight who beheaded the tyrannical ruler and took his throne, handing out puppies to his new subjects.

Spencer isn't some breath of fresh air that's completely untouched from the stink of his predecessor. He was there too. A lot of people are involved in every decision that's made. The Xbox team as a whole realized they needed to turn the ship around before it was too late. Spencer is every bit an executive and salesman that Mattrick was. His job's just easier because the message he has to sell isn't as offensive. He's not a not a nicer guy than Mattrick. He just got handed a better script.

Have you ever worked for a large corporate/government bureaucracy? Things can be incredibly "siloed".

The mayor (D Mattrick) tells transportation "make roads fast". The mayor tells city planners "make things safe". When the two goals are counter-productive you have to blame the mayor.

 

[Sydle]

He didn't secure shit except a delay for PS4 owners. There's literally zero value beyond bragging rights for Xbone players in MS paying to delay the PS4 version.

For the amount of money that they're spunking away on these completely pointless deals they could be making actual new exclusive content for Xbone players. But MS don't have any interest in that. It's something that they've demonstrated thoroughly over the last 5+ years, that they have only a minimum level of concern for providing actual exclusive content for their platform, and a far greater level of interest in punishing the people who don't buy it through their crappy 'exclusivity' deals.

I'm not trying to pick a fight, but it's categorically false to say he hasn't brought any exclusives to the platform now or for the future.

No offense, but you seem to be trying to instigate rather than have discussion.

 

[Mollymauk]

Yeah, it is always interesting listening to him.



uh-huh.

 

[Steverulez]

S-E obviously aren't required to sign a contract with MS, but I fail to see how that makes it 'their problem'. MS approached S-E and offered them money in exchange for a delay to the PS4 version of their game. It's shitty behaviour that has no sum effect but punishing people with the good sense not to buy into MS's ecosystem.

And again, 'oh it's only been six months'. Xbox has been an entity in the gaming world for over a decade. You should not be defending the piss-poor state of MS's game development. It's indefensible.

"Good sense not to buy into MS ecosystem", not exactly wording that encourages good conversation.

How is it indefensible? MS have plenty of games in development, I'm really resisting the urge to make a freakin' list, Xbox One isn't exactly suffering for content from Microsoft now or in the future. Im not sure what exactly is piss poor, unless you've genuinely not seen the titles announced for Xbox One.

Oh c'mon! That's a really weak argument, you're better than this Steverulez. MS is also to blame for this, It was simply a moneyhat.

"MS have plenty of content coming", obviously MS is not confident enough about that and had to moneyhat a game for timed exclusivity even though it was coming anyway to xbox owners.

I wasn't absolving MS of their involvement, but for Square and MS they both get something out of it. Timed exclusives or otherwise from third parties have always been part of the equation, Sony have a deal for Paradox where all their games are timed console exclusives on PS4, its just business and everyone is doing the best they can to get content exclusively on their platform, either its DLC, DLC first or other stuff. Phil Spencers "shitty decisions" as it was originally aren't any different to anyone else trying to secure deals for their platform.

If MS were that concerned about their line-up for 2015, they'd have probably money hatted something that was coming earlier in the year where they don't have a big title launching. They probably saw an opportunity and went for it, maybe they did feel they were missing a title, a bit difficult to know for sure until they announce all their 2015 titles or we find out something is delayed. Having another big exclusive like TR is never going to be detrimental to them though

 

[PhoenixFyre]

Have you ever worked for a large corporate/government bureaucracy? Things can be incredibly "siloed".

The mayor tells transportation "make things fast". The mayor tells city planners "make things safe". When the two goals are counter-productive you have to blame the mayor.

And the mayor has advisers, people pushing him left right and center, from all around him. However much it may appear to be one man's calls, there are always voices coming from every direction, always committees, always deals and meetings and pressure from all over the place. Not from random third parties, but those within the department, and other departments.

There is a top dog, a final shot caller, but it wasn't Mattrick and it isn't Spencer.

 

[FordGTGuy]

Actually we know: We know SE are able to develop and publish the games themselves without MS help. Source: Kagari, and we Know the game is coming to PS4 later. Source: Many insiders including shinobi and bruce, you can also add the way PRs are worded.

It's not only the Sony crowd, there are also PC gamers. And Phil takes the blame along with SE because:

1. He's the one that offered the money
2. He could have use that money for other stuff other than moneyhatting other platforms out.

Are we honestly arguing over the morality and ethics of the TR exclusive deal?

Whether or not they could afford it doesn't mean they felt like spending the money on the game to have it developed, marketed and released. Microsoft probably offered heavy amounts of advertisement and their own people to help develop the game.

For Square Enix this deal is great, you spend probably no money on advertisement and the development risk is very low but you get all the profits.


If you want TR buy a Xbox One, otherwise just don't play it.

 

[Impeccable]

LTTP? Wasn't it like just released?

 

[Ol No Bones]

Actually we know: We know SE are able to develop and publish the games themselves without MS help. Source: Kagari, and we Know the game is coming to PS4 later. Source: Many insiders including shinobi and bruce, you can also add the way PRs are worded.

It's not only the Sony crowd, there are also PC gamers. And Phil takes the blame along with SE because:

1. He's the one that offered the money
2. He could have use that money for other stuff other than moneyhatting other platforms out.

Until SE announces it we don't know when the game will release on PS4.

Phil doesn't have any reason to be concerned with the PS4 not having a game. Its only a good thing from his perspective.

You may not accept that but that's your problem.

 

[Florida_Man_5000]

And the mayor has advisers, people pushing him left right and center, from all around him. However much it may appear to be one man's calls, there are always voices coming from every direction, always committees, always deals and meetings and pressure from all over the place. Not from random third parties, but those within the department, and other departments.

There is a top dog, a final shot caller, but it wasn't Mattrick and it isn't Spencer.

Can we both agree that, if Mattrick was a Mayor, he'd be like Rob Ford of Toronto.

 

[Chobel]

Are we honestly arguing over the morality and ethics of the TR exclusive deal?

Whether or not they could afford it doesn't mean they felt like spending the money on the game to have it developed, marketed and released. Microsoft probably offered heavy amounts of advertisement and their own people to help develop the game.

For Square Enix this deal is great, you spend probably no money on advertisement and the development risk is very low but you get all the profits.


If you want TR buy a Xbox One, otherwise just don't play it.

It's not exactly about morality and ethics, it's about how Phil Spencer is "great"... not. Of course this deal looked best to SE/MS. Unfortunately I'm not SE/MS stockholder, I'm a gamer and this a shit deal for anyone that's not xbox owner, AKA majority of gamers.

And I'm going to play TR just not on Xbone, I'm going to play it on PC. Probably 4 months later thanks to the kind man Phil Spencer.

Until SE announces it we don't know when the game will release on PS4.

Phil doesn't have any reason to be concerned with the PS4 not having a game. Its only a good thing from his perspective.

You may not accept that but that's your problem.

You know shit is bad when you see people defending shitty actions of executives.

 

[Zyae]

It's not exactly about morality and ethics, it's about how Phil Spencer is "great"... not. Of course this deal looked best to SE/MS. Unfortunately I'm not SE/MS stockholder, I'm a gamer and this a shit deal for anyone that's not xbox owner, AKA majority of gamers.

And I'm going to play TR just not on Xbone, I'm going to play it on PC. Probably 4 months later thanks to the kind man Phil Spencer.



You know shit is bad when you see people defending shitty actions by executives.

And I won't get to play destiny content for a year thanks to Shu. Welcome to the video game industry. You think its a shitty action. Thats your issue.

 

[Hoo-doo]

People honestly defending the TR buyout now? Christ.

For someone that's supposedly a 'real gamer' with 'respect of competition' and all, he fucked over millions gamers in a single swoop for the company's bottom line.
Xbox gamers gain nothing, the rest of all gamers lose a 2015 holiday title, Microsoft gains a game to prop up as if it's exclusive.

If you take a step back and look at it objectively, this is indefensably a shitty move when consumers are concerned. We shouldn't be cheering when companies fuck us over, no matter how smooth their talk is.

 

[Liquid-San]

Dat post history

Jesus. I thought NeoGaf trolls were extinct...

 

[Hockeymac18]

If you think MS (or Sony for that matter) are even vaguely interested in giving us "the best value for money" you've completely missed the economic model of the console industry.

MS have perfected the razor and razor blade model with their Xbox franchise and have made a shit load of money of NOT giving consumers the best value for money. Their actions, even with Spencer at the helm, has not convinced me otherwise, case in point - removing Kinect and still not beating the competitions price point, then selling the stand alone for 150% of the price reduction.

I'm not anti MS, but this Spencer infatuation is remarkable, you can like a person without drinking the Kool-Aid!! For instance, I like(d) Jack Tretton, but I didn't honestly believe he was actually looking out for my wallet.

The only real metric worth comparing in this regard is how each console manufacturer compares to each other, and in that race MS are still lagging on the 'bang for buck' scale. Any improvements they have made (removing things from behind paywalls for instance) are clearly concessions to the market share they have lost to Sony, rather than any altruistic motivation to be your friend.

This is a better post than your first one. If you would have gone out with these points from the get go, you would have less people questioning your last post.

Although I think people are talking about value in the console space... And I think in that respect there is a good argument to be made in favor of MS offering a better value right now than Sony. Especially when you remember that value is a subjective thing (different people value different features in different ways) and you take into account all of the bundles/deals going on for the system right now.

Whether this value is being offered up altruistically out of the goodness of their hearts or not really is totally irrelevant. It's kind of a ridiculous point to even bring up because there isn't a company anywhere that does this (and if there ever was one, I'm sure they didn't last very long).

I honestly don't give a crap if dropping the paywall for apps was done because of competition or because they wanted to... They did it, and made the value proposition better. And that's all that matters in the end for me as a consumer.

 

[Pathos]

uh-huh.

He's honestly the best thing that could have happened to Xbox. Don was a good businessman but did not know how to communicate with fans at all.

 

[Zyae]

People honestly defending the TR buyout now? Christ.

For someone that's supposedly a 'real gamer' with 'respect of competition' and all, he fucked over millions gamers in a single swoop for the company's bottom line.
Xbox gamers gain nothing, the rest of all gamers lose a 2015 holiday title, Microsoft gains a game to prop up as if it's exclusive.

If you take a step back and look at it objectively, this is indefensably a shitty move when consumers are concerned. We shouldn't be cheering when companies fuck us over, no matter how smooth their talk is.

You get the game months later, you arent being "fucked over".

 

[Night Angel]

You get the game months later, you arent being "fucked over".

Please explain how that's a good thing. Because the colloquial use of fucked over means they get a raw deal, the colloquial use of which means they have something happen to them that is not good and reduces their happiness. The phrase seems to fit the situation just right.

 

[Hoo-doo]

You get the game months later, you arent being "fucked over".

How is that not being fucked over?
Are you trying to nitpick the definition of the term, or what exactly are you implying here?

Not a single gamer benefits from the decision made. Only Microsoft does.
And yet here we have posters cheering them on. It's pretty weird.

 

[rrc1594]

I walked in to this thread at the perfect time let me get some popcorn.

 

[Hockeymac18]

I thought the NFL deal was broader and encompassed other MS products? It's weird that the head of the games division would be the person to champion such a deal. Where did you read that it was his idea?

I would be interested to see this source considering the NFL deal is a Microsoft wide thing. I actually see very little Xbox in the NFL marketing partnership. Pretty much only surface...

 

[Chobel]

And I won't get to play destiny content for a year thanks to Shu. Welcome to the video game industry. You think its a shitty action. Thats your issue.

Timed exclusive content is bad, but comparing it to full game being timed exclusive? Moneyhatting a full game as far far worse.

You get the game months later, you arent being "fucked over".

You're right, we should actually thank MS for being so nice and not make this game permanent exclusive.

Spoiler

/s

 

[VinFTW]

Timed exclusive content is bad, but comparing it to full game being timed exclusive? Moneyhatting a full game as far far worse.

If you think Phil Spencer and the Xbox division are the first to spend money on making games timed exclusives... then I don't know what to say...

 

[Sydle]

How is that not being fucked over?
Are you trying to nitpick the definition of the term, or what exactly are you implying here?

Not a single gamer benefits from the decision made. Only Microsoft does.
And yet here we have posters cheering them on. It's pretty weird.

I agree that "fucked over" seems pretty dramatic for what ultimately amounts to a pretty trivial matter in the grand scheme of things.

In any case, we don't yet know the extent of the deal. Microsoft has made deals in the past that actually funded more content such as the DLC for GTAIV that eventually became available to everyone. There's a possibility Microsoft is putting down more than just marketing funds to improve the game, or maybe it really is just locking out non Xbox owners for a bit. We could hold judgment until we know more.

 

[Percy]

You know shit is bad when you see people defending shitty actions of executives.

I can still remember only a week or two ago some were seriously defending the indie parity shit MS still have in play. Some were apparently even happy it was there.

It's distressing to see the attitudes some adopt with regard to corporate policies that not only have no benefit to them of any kind but can sometimes actually 'hurt' them.

 

[Chobel]

If you think Phil Spencer and the Xbox division are the first to spend money on making games timed exclusives... then I don't know what to say...

So because others did it before, now it's suddenly OK to moneyhat?

 

[shacklesmcgee]

I agree that "fucked over" seems pretty dramatic for what ultimately amounts to a pretty trivial matter in the grand scheme of things.

In any case, we don't yet know the extent of the deal. Microsoft has made deals in the past that actually funded more content such as the DLC for GTAIV that eventually became available to everyone. There's a possibility Microsoft is putting down more than just marketing funds to improve the game, or maybe it really is just locking out non Xbox owners for a bit. We could hold judgment until we know more.

MS's secrecy is not really helping. Them being sneaky with this deal really helped piss off a lot of people

 

[VinFTW]

So because others did it before, now it's suddenly OK to moneyhat?

It's apart of the business. There are other companies who used to do it plenty back in the day, you should be upset about that too.

 

[iMax]

So because others did it before, now it's suddenly OK to moneyhat?

Yes.

—and I'm not sure what you mean by "suddenly". It's always been like that.

 

[Final Verdict]

you understand it's all an act.. yes?

I mean, everything dude said was meant to make him seem like he's for the gamers!

the part about what he would do if he were in charge was pretty obvious... the guy was there, in a high level position that could have influenced shit, but instead, he decided went right along with it.

anyway, this whole attitude is an act to make it seem as if he is really a fresh start... when it isn't.

but hey it worked on you, and a vast majority of people who were dying for someone to have hope in with the xbone.... so MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

If you listen to interviews and stuff like that from before he was head of Xbox, you will find that he hasn't changed at all in his outlook or games first mentality. There is nothing being faked here. The fact that so many Devs. went out of their way to congratulate him, and xbox for the move is proof that he is the most genuine guy that could possibly be leading the xbox team.

Nathan Vella (Cappy)
Rob Davis SSM
Cliff Blezinski
Bungie
Dan Teasdale (Nogoblin Cofounder)

There is more I didn't list too...

 

[Kezen]

Yeah, it is always interesting listening to him.



uh-huh.

Hhahahahahahaa.

 

[Chobel]

It's apart of the business. There are other companies who used to do it plenty back in the day, you should be upset about that too.

Just because it's part of the business, that doesn't mean I should be happy about it.
And the bold part, are you implying I'm hypocrite? Jesus Christ dude! Shitty actions are shitty actions no matter who does them.

 

[twobear]

Pointless? It was a move to promote and push Xbox One, if it does (true next gen TR) then he made a great move. There's nothing wrong with what he did, actually glad we get TR which will benefit from dev focused purely on one console.

What do you, as an Xbone owner, get from the TR deal, besides the chance to play it six months before PS4 owners? I understand, in a way, the congratulation for a mere business move: it might sell Xbones to people who are uninformed about the fact that the PS4 will get a better version six months later. But for someone who already owns the console, all you get is bragging rights.

And would you rather have bragging rights or new IP? If you took all of the money that MS have spent/wasted on these worthless deals, they would surely have been able to fund an entirely new game. Perhaps even a new game that isn't either Halo, Forza, Gears of War, or Fable. Wouldn't you rather have that?

 

[Steverulez]

Perhaps even a new game that isn't either Halo, Forza, Gears of War, or Fable. Wouldn't you rather have that?

I would.

Good thing Sunset Overdrive is out next week!

 

[Chobel]

Yes.

—and I'm not sure what you mean by "suddenly". It's always been like that.

You're one of reasonable posters, so I'm gonna give you the benefit of doubt and I assume your "OK" is not the same as my "OK".

Moneyhats are not OK for gamers, I'm not talking financially here. "Suddenly" here means moneyhats were always considered bad for gamers, why in this case it is not?

 

[Sydle]

What do you, as an Xbone owner, get from the TR deal, besides the chance to play it six months before PS4 owners? I understand, in a way, the congratulation for a mere business move: it might sell Xbones to people who are uninformed about the fact that the PS4 will get a better version six months later. But for someone who already owns the console, all you get is bragging rights.

And would you rather have bragging rights or new IP? If you took all of the money that MS have spent/wasted on these worthless deals, they would surely have been able to fund an entirely new game. Perhaps even a new game that isn't either Halo, Forza, Gears of War, or Fable. Wouldn't you rather have that?

We don't know yet is the only correct answer at this time and there's really no more to it.

Everything else you wrote is speculation and assumption about opportunity costs.

 

[Man]

Watched Videogame: The Movie yesterday and he was gloating at the graphical power of the Xbox One that goes beyond movies thanks to its Cloud resources.