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Assassin's Creed Unity Leaker calls out to Neogaf/provides clarification on graphics

Patroclos

Banned
Feel like the original reveal preview was a tech demo to show off what the engine is capable of. I remember all the analyzing back then about whether or not it was realtime.

Bull. It was deceptive, and I say that in an industry where deception runs rampant. Ubisoft is just an egregious offender. If you want to see how to do an E3 reveal that's not the real game but still does a great job of portraying the actual final product look at Sunset Overdrive. They made it clear it was not the final product by the way. Ubi really just needs to start doing this instead of LYING to people. Those are your concerned source's words not mine.
 

Skyzard

Banned
I know it's compressed youtube caps but look at the faces - skin tones and lighting here:
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It's like the sort of thing we usually see as gameplay videos in trailers, but then closer to what we end up actually getting is below...

Here:

I hope PC gets the good lighting as an option.

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tiny almost useless gifs

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Vs (look at people in background in this):

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Some sort of lighting is missing between the two, I'm sure. I want it.
 

Marcel

Member
Ubisoft are in a real lose/lose situation here aren't they?
Doubt they can patch the PS4 version if they agreed parity with Microsoft.

Ubisoft is free to do a 1080p patch for PS4 as long as they didn't sign anything with Microsoft. I seriously doubt they would enter into some sort of formal accord to keep their game looking worse for arbitrary reasons.

all according to the plan those 2 cooked up in pm messages

It would be the best twist that I was the Ubisoft PR person all along.
 
Jesus christ people, let a mod deal with that PM post. No need for a 100 posts quoting it or calling him out.

Ubisoft are in a real lose/lose situation here aren't they?
Doubt they can patch the PS4 version if they agreed parity with Microsoft.

I doubt they did.

Also not sure how much they will lose from this, as it in the end will be a minor problem to most ps4 buyers, if not a completely none existent issue as they won't realize or hear of ubisofts bullshit parity reasons.
 

Valnen

Member
You willingly sent sensitive information to someone who doesn't give a shit about you. Oops.

I'm free to release it as it was sent to me.

This game deserves to be criticized but you're being a scumbag. You don't give a shit about them as a person? What the hell?
 

Shin-Ra

Junior Member

Bricky

Member
who do i believe?

Well, I saw a presentation of a live demo (100% live, proven by the fact the assassination didn't trigger properly, which fucked up the mission and forced the Ubi-employee (which was a woman by the way, take that internet ;D) to quit the demo earlier than intended). I guess Busigkatt played an early, unoptimized build of the full game, while my impressions obviously come from what was just a small slice of the game they optimized for Gamescom specifically (but I'm pretty sure was pulled from the main game, not some pre-Alpha E3 demo). Mine was shown on a PC, his on a unspecified home console.

If I were to draw a conclusion from both his and mine impressions it is that the PC-version should look fine (optimization is another thing entirely) at the very least, and we'll have to wait and see the final console release in action before judging that version. I can't see the PS4 version being 900p for parity AND have horrible framerate/pop-in/etc unless they really, really fucked up.
 

Sporty

Neo Member
I've bought every AC game so far, AC2, AC:B twice each.

After this crap with AC:U, I will be buying Ubisoft games 'used' once they hit ~$30 or less now. I know it doesn't support the developers, but I can't support a publisher that doesn't give a shit about it's customers either.
 
you made this point before but i don't remember god hand being touted for its "unparalleled virtual beauty and realism"

Before judging though, I'd advise people to wait till the game releases in 10 - 11 days. I never believed UBI and their comments lol but going by the gameplay videos online, it looks pretty good to me. Furthermore, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a day 1 patch, like most games today.

Edit: RE4 came before God Hand, let that sink in. You'd think the graphics would surpass RE4 or something. Infact, Gears of war came out a month after God Hand just to put things in prespective yet in some ways God Hand is a much more fun game than Gears of war ever was, single player wise.
 

TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Doesn't the screenshot mode in TLOU turn on a bunch of additional anti aliasing and effects?

Either way, it doesn't matter. Anyone with eyes can see the ACU screenshots are lacking.
No, you can control DOF and film grain and change colour filters but it doesn't enhance, details, texture, lighting, AA or any part of the graphics in anyway, thats how it looks minus the strong DOF.
The untouched version I have is actually cleaner then that.
The options in TLOU and even Infamous are linked to the in-game engine, photomode is just letting you adjust them to your liking, it's not like GT or Forza.
 

Amir0x

Banned
Whatever sacrifices they claim they had to make, they didn't have to go for parity. And the screens don't exactly make it seem justified in any event. Especially for the bs reason they did.

So I'm still not buying another Ubi game
 

Marcel

Member
Before judging though, I'd advise people to wait till the game releases in 10 - 11 days. I never believed UBI and their comments lol but going by the gameplay videos online, it looks pretty good to me. Furthermore, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a day 1 patch, like most games today.

Edit: RE4 came before God Hand, let that sink in. You'd think the graphics would surpass RE4 or something. Infact, Gears of war came out a month after God Hand just to put things in prespective yet in some ways God Hand is a much more fun game than Gears of war ever was, single player wise.

How is a mass-market TPS comparable to a niche character action game from a gameplay perspective? You're drawing comparisons without making any real point about the comparison.
 

Crossing Eden

Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
He wasn't using USB transfer? So why do the pics have the PlayStation metadata and expected file size?
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SHARE screenshots are direct feed. What are you talking about.
PS4 share screenshots do have more compression than the USB, playstation app etc method. I could always just make an account and ask.
thanks, guess i'll do some searching there then
http://www.jeuxvideo.com/forums/1-30691-271214-36-0-1-0-hs-le-mec-a-deja-le-jeu.htm Good luck. :D LeGrosManche is the username.
 

cackhyena

Member
Whatever sacrifices they claim they had to make, they didn't have to go for parity. And the screens don't exactly make it seem justified in any event. Especially for the bs reason they did.

So I'm still not buying another Ubi game

Surely you mean you aren't buying another AC game. Surely.
 

Alucrid

Banned
Before judging though, I'd advise people to wait till the game releases in 10 - 11 days. I never believed UBI and their comments lol but going by the gameplay videos online, it looks pretty good to me. Furthermore, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a day 1 patch, like most games today.

sure, but bringing up god hand (and sullying it's name just by being in the thread) doesn't seem to make much of a point. saying they're both graphically bad (unknown for AC:U) but fun (also unknown for AC:U) says nothing when they're hardly comparable beyond that
 
How is a mass-market TPS comparable to a niche character action game from a gameplay perspective? You're drawing comparisons without making any real point about the comparison.

They are not comparable as I stated above but people talking about graphics so much makes me wonder what people thought at that time of God Hand, which looked like shit and most likely alot of people never really gave it a chance. Only those that did knew that it was actually a good if not great game.

However, I am also not comparing it's gameplay to AC. I am just coming at this from a graphics perspective since that is what everybody is talking about, isn't it?
 

TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Before judging though, I'd advise people to wait till the game releases in 10 - 11 days. I never believed UBI and their comments lol but going by the gameplay videos online, it looks pretty good to me. Furthermore, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a day 1 patch, like most games today.

Edit: RE4 came before God Hand, let that sink in. You'd think the graphics would surpass RE4 or something. Infact, Gears of war came out a month after God Hand just to put things in prespective yet in some ways God Hand is a much more fun game than Gears of war ever was, single player wise.
Thanks for that video, while watching it I realized what those shots remind me of, it looks like the famous YouTube filter.
 

Nokterian

Member
Nope. Ubisoft doesn't get my money until they admit what they did and acknowledge they won't do it again in the future. These guys aren't owed anything.

But they won't..i can all ready see E3 next year again tricking people with bullshots and trailers that do not promise the final or in any other way.
 

Amir0x

Banned
But they won't..i can all ready see E3 next year again tricking people with bullshots and trailers that do not promise the final or in any other way.

Then *shrug*. Plenty of other games in the sea, and they most likely won't be as tedious to play as most of the AC games are anyway. I'm an easy guy to please, just respect the consumers and I'm OK.
 
Nope. Ubisoft doesn't get my money until they admit what they did and acknowledge they won't do it again in the future. These guys aren't owed anything.

Amir0x you're unbanned! Yeah I was going to cave and buy it, but then again looked at my principles and decided against it again especially after seeing Marcel's reveal of Eden. So thanks for that.
He's probably a Ubi employee or something like that. I'm passing on new and sticking to preowned.
 

Alucrid

Banned
They are not comparable as I stated above but people talking about graphics so much makes me wonder what people thought at that time of God Hand, which looked like shit and most likely alot of people never really gave it a chance. Only those that did knew that it was actually a good if not great game.

However, I am also not comparing it's gameplay to AC. I am just coming at this from a graphics perspective since that is what everybody is talking about, isn't it?

well god hand wasn't a sequel in a long line of triple a titles that often touted the graphical prowess of their games and had marketing out the ass
 
Then *shrug*. Plenty of other games in the sea, and they most likely won't be as tedious to play as most of the AC games are anyway. I'm an easy guy to please, just respect the consumers and I'm OK.

Nope. Ubisoft doesn't get my money until they admit what they did and acknowledge they won't do it again in the future. These guys aren't owed anything.
High five!
It's easy to avoid Ubisoft games, I've been doing it happily since like 2009
 

TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
He wasn't using USB transfer? So why do the pics have the PlayStation metadata and expected file size?
15065681454_30b1a1d0ff_o.png



SHARE screenshots are direct feed. What are you talking about.
You know you can change them? Also no matter how many copys you make it'll carry that metadata with it even after compression?
 
But they won't..i can all ready see E3 next year again tricking people with bullshots and trailers that do not promise the final or in any other way.

Yeah no way The Division or Rainbow Six Siege look anything like their reveals knowing Ubi. I hope I'm wrong though as I actually really enjoy most of their franchises. I'm just tired of the lying from them.
 

Crossing Eden

Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Amir0x you're unbanned! Yeah I was going to cave and buy it, but then again looked at my principles and decided against it again especially after seeing Marcel's reveal of Eden. So thanks for that.
He's probably a Ubi employee or something like that. I'm passing on new and sticking to preowned.
I'm still here you know. And I really don't appreciate being accused of working for ubisoft. Marcel only revealed that I couldn't answer a question in an effort to derail the thread and cause drama.
 

cackhyena

Member
Nope. Ubisoft doesn't get my money until they admit what they did and acknowledge they won't do it again in the future. These guys aren't owed anything.

So the next Splinter Cell or R6 gets no love simply because they are a Ubisoft joint? It makes sense to say no to AC games. I mean, you aren't teaching them a lesson any which way, but you are depriving yourself of good shit down the line because you don't like what they'e done with a couple franchises.
 
sure, but bringing up god hand (and sullying it's name just by being in the thread) doesn't seem to make much of a point. saying they're both graphically bad (unknown for AC:U) but fun (also unknown for AC:U) says nothing when they're hardly comparable beyond that

Not really. It was always known that God Hand just looks bad but was really fun to play. AC:U so far appears to be downgraded, as per usual with UBI titles lol. However, what are you expecting from an AC game if it won't play like the rest but with improvements here and there? I think the best thing the game has going for it is 4 player co-op which is new to the series and the playing different timelines + characters thing which is also new, Infact it's the aspect i'm most excited about. Which brings me to another point, most people lost their shit when they saw the
supposedly WW2
setting. Don't know if it's that mode or if it's story related though.
 

Nokterian

Member
Then *shrug*. Plenty of other games in the sea, and they most likely won't be as tedious to play as most of the AC games are anyway. I'm an easy guy to please, just respect the consumers and I'm OK.

Aye same here but i am also not buying anything from ubisoft..there faux stuff makes me not happy and not being honest on tricking your consumers is the worst.
 

Crossing Eden

Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Not from what I can see. Another leaker is uploading a new video and they're all waiting after him.
Guy who's uploading the video commented on the framerate.

Rather steady framerate, I just had two slight "lag" during a cutscene and during gameplay, but the time to do my reflection cétait already ended.

for video, 260MB of 350, 40 minutes remaining ... I will have to cancel the transfer and try again on an external HD if I want to play tonight lol xD

Very good to hear that the framerate has minimal problems as that's what I was worried about the most.
 

woen

Member
From the second french leaker : "The framerate is quite stable, I had 2 drops during cutscenes and gameplay sequences, but it was quite short"

He's trying to upload a 350Mb video btw (most likely on gamersyde)

edit : I'm not as fast as Yves :(
 

Shin-Ra

Junior Member
Nice observation, do you know the metadata of screenshots not using USB transfer?
You know you can change them? Also no matter how many copys you make it'll carry that metadata with it even after compression?
Screenshots SHAREd to twitter :)orig quality) or Facebook (options>download) don't retain the Device make/model and Color profile metadata.
 
well god hand wasn't a sequel in a long line of triple a titles that often touted the graphical prowess of their games and had marketing out the ass

Even if Ubisoft didn't, people will still rip their shit because people will always expect more and better. It's just that they did and lied which is why the reaction from people is over the top. I don't blame the people though but damn, some are insane. After all this talk even if the game turned out to look great, you'd think they will buy the game? some of them are never intending on buying the game. Looking good or not was never relevant.
 
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