CreateNowSleepLater
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Good luck finding a match in H4 along with the other 3 people that still play it.
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Halo 5 beta clips leak (sprint, ADS is *not* COD-style) (more clips and info added)
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Good luck finding a match in H4 along with the other 3 people that still play it.
Prototype Viktor
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You guys just don't understand 343 has masterfully created an Total Conversation mod and using xbone instead of steamworks
Halo died with the end of Halo: CE
Jack Scofield
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It must be hard for 343 (and any other any game developer, really) to spend so much time, love, and effort on a project only to find out that their audience is in diapers.
There is a time and place for both when it came to Halo games. It was called zoom, and it was perfect for the game Halo was.
ADS is not necessary.
Chezzymann
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All this seems to be is an aesthetic change (switching is instant just like the old scopes) and fans seem to be overreacting and wanting everything to be exactly the same
fargofallout
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I sort of can't believe this thread has gone on this long - not because I think the changes are good and people should just take them, but because I'm surprised anyone thought 343 was going to deliver a good Halo game. People can complain about Halo 4 all they want and point out how the number of users plummeted quickly, but the game sold a lot of copies. I'd be more surprised if they WERE willing to change direction from Halo 4. It sucks, but that CoD money is just too tempting.
obviously it shines on PC but if you know how to aim the game is still better than the large majority of console shooters.
That's the inherent problem, people are just so attached to their stupid ADS auto-aim they don't want to teach themselves how to aim in a real 1v1 encounter any more.
Solid Samus
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how does ADS equate to being modern, because it's in everything? Halo's gameplay is still fresh and fun because it doesn't rely on crutches like ADS, favoring movement and zoning tactics alongside constant situational awareness enabled by the focus on hip fire instead.Volumes have been stated already in this thread about the effect ADS has on moment to moment gameplay in a shooter. There isn't a time and place for both when one has the potential to fundamentally change encounter design in a homogenized and decidedly un-Halo fashion.
If you don't like how Halo plays then I guess ADS works out for you but not for those of us who have enjoyed it for years and don't have much like this to play anymore.
Well you still can. It's not like these changes affect MCC in any way.
'aiming down sights'
Foxy Fox 39
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Dont mind ADS. Looks awesome. Unsure about sprint. At the end of the day though I dont think either are a big deal. Halo needs to evolve. (harharhar) and it has struggled to stay relevant.
What explains that scenario if an Assault Rifle has it?
block tower
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idk why people hate sprint in Halo? it sped up the game. as a longtime Halo multiplayer fan i like the addition of sprint. also those H5 graphics loo nice, even if the video was recorded on a potato
No from a general point of view..such a thing makes no sense whatsoever.
TheDarkKnight774
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Well. I guess we will always have mcc. Disappointing leak. Let's see what fun the beta brings.
JigglesBunny
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EchoChamber
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Remember guys the last time we give 343 a chance we got halo 4.
they are the pinnacle of the genre
I don't think ADS would work without sprint. I don't think ADS works in Halo period, though.
Ken Masters
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CountAntonius
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Oh 343...
th4tguy
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Do we know if there are load outs? That was the real game ruiner.
To everyone defending ads and sprint, I just want to know how long you stuck with playing halo 4. It sounds like you liked it and played it for a lot longer then those who don't like halo with those features. If you didn't, what made you stop playing?
To everyone defending ads and sprint, I just want to know how long you stuck with playing halo 4. It sounds like you liked it and played it for a lot longer then those who don't like halo with those features. If you didn't, what made you stop playing?
Yeah, but I was under the assumption that Halo 5 would go classic like they said it would. Not get closer to Call of Duty.
Is copying a brain dead feature that is the staple of casual shooters 'evolving' though?
that's what we have to ask ourselves.
Gravemind IV
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They can have their COD fanbase if that's what they are aiming at.
COD itself is even dwindling in popularity. A return to classic Halo would have been the way to go. Returning and further emphasizing that which killed their first attempt at a mainline Halo game is beyond insanity.
RoyalLaFlame
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I agree people are overreacting a little bit but that ADS was everything but instant. The only moment you can say that it's instant is when zooming in, when zooming out it takes a while to go back to its original position.
If it's a game ruiner, it's in. That is 343's motto.
Twilight Gap
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it gives the illusion of speeding up the game.
-sprint lowers the base movement and strafe speed
-sprint elongates maps
-sprint delays engagements because you can escape them
-sprint increases motion tracker range
it may literally speed up the player, but only relative to all the other changes that nearly cancel each other out.
again, a short 2 second charge to gain distance or tie into a stronger melee would benefit halo. the sprint mechanic, whether it's limited or unlimited, didn't work for 2 games and it's not going to work this time either.
Solid Samus
Banned
to be fair it is unobtrusive and I assume you can continue to shoot during that animation transition by relying on the reticle
Vincent Alexander
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Everyone seems to assume 343 doesn't understand them. Maybe they do, and just don't care? After seeing this outrage, I'd have a real hard time caring either. Or maybe this "inheritance" is theirs to do with what they want, and they'll let the final product speak for them.
Who posted this? Someone from 343i
I won't lie, reading that made me happy. It makes sense, but still I'm just gonna wait for some official explanations. I'm basically forcing myself to be optimistic.
Goodacre0081
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out of curiosity, what percentage of the Bungie staff switched over to 343?
killer rin
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Well, if true that just cements that Halo MCC will be the only Halo game I play in a loooong time.
Sanic
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They're looking to sell more copies, nothing more. I won't argue if having/not having sprint and ADS specifically are a good thing or not, but they needed to overhaul aspects of the game for today's market.
A.D. Skinner
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Well I can't read 38 pages of comments but I have to say, I hate leaks like these ones. So many opinions will change from this without an actual view and release to go with it. People will skip wanting to try it and just be annoyed.
I'm glad the Halo 5 beta will be with every MCC and probably become available to everyone soon after its start. Maybe the 3rd week.
Another thing I want to add, is that its the Battle Rifle shown in the clip isn't it, which has always had a scope...so maybe the rifles scope is just replaced and become A.D.S style, rather than added to every gun. This kind of assumption is exactly what leaks do and why I dislike them.
I'm glad the Halo 5 beta will be with every MCC and probably become available to everyone soon after its start. Maybe the 3rd week.
Another thing I want to add, is that its the Battle Rifle shown in the clip isn't it, which has always had a scope...so maybe the rifles scope is just replaced and become A.D.S style, rather than added to every gun. This kind of assumption is exactly what leaks do and why I dislike them.
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