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maybe its context sensitive animation
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Halo 5 beta clips leak (sprint, ADS is *not* COD-style) (more clips and info added)
- Thread starter DopeyFish
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maybe its context sensitive animation
Like what?
rokkerkory
Member
Some of the reactions are just mind boggling without actually playing the game. Do you guys generally react without trying out something for yourselves?
The videos are also blurry as crap, not sure what can be judged so far. Looking forward to some real impressions and reveal.
If it's crap like Halo 4 then by all means, give 343 the biggest bash ever. But we don't know just yet.
The videos are also blurry as crap, not sure what can be judged so far. Looking forward to some real impressions and reveal.
If it's crap like Halo 4 then by all means, give 343 the biggest bash ever. But we don't know just yet.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Kinda wish more games had similar generic and uninspired aesthetics.
I mean it's the closest we've gotten to a HD Metroid in terms of aesthetics...
Gameplay is pure garbage though. Aesthetics only help so much.
I'd say the majority of the time that people are outraged about something (movie, book, TV show, etc) it's because they didn't just investigate the media themselves and jump to conclusions (i.e. this thread).
Hoping you can cook grenades now.
Shake Appeal
Member
I'm sure 343i have plenty of terrible ideas up their sleeves, but basically unless they make good on a promise of even starts and no unlocks that affects gameplay, it'll be the same pack-chasing, metagaming mess Halo 4 was.
Sprint is a big problem, though, don't get me wrong (bigger than cosmetic ADS, since it affects map design).
Halo fans are reacting to see some of the design decisions they hated in Reach and Halo 4 -- games they played extensively -- repeated here.
Stripper13
Member
This is the exact issue that people had with Halo 4. 343i added a bunch of shit and the game suffered for it.
Josh Holmes confirmed it's purely cosmetic and players don't get punished by using hipfire. I still want to know why it was included, though. I believe it's purpose is just to attract people who are familiar with ADS FPS games...
We've been through a lot.
ThatsMytrunks
Member
I'm okay with this, I guess. It still doesn't make sense fictionally.
Jessie.Bristol
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Did I say anything about ADS? No.
Get this shit outa here, Halo is all about grenade bouncing not insta kill frags to the face.
Won't cooking grenades ruin the point of grenades in Halo in the first place? You have to strategically hit a solid surface in the right spot to damage your target.
Shake Appeal
Member
If 100% true, it'll be pretty hilarious when Halo vets are tearing up everything with hip fire while other dudes are trying to get their ironsights out.
Yeah the whole point of Halo frags (at least in 1-3) is to use the environment to time the explosion.
Dr Amazon MD
Member
Everyone should still be pissed in my opinion. If you played hundreds of hours of Halo 2&3 MP, a 5 second clip is enough to show you that's gonna change the core Halo gameplay.
I hope I'm wrong. I'll be watching tomorrow night for sure.
I hope I'm wrong. I'll be watching tomorrow night for sure.
REMEMBER CITADEL
Banned
You know the answer to that question, you are not new here.
Eh, I really loved Halo 4. I play Halo games for their campaigns, though.
I can't wait to see the proper unveiling.
Don't bother. Everyone is too busy riding their high horse and calling anyone with a complaint crazy.
Iam no halo purist So I actually welcome sprint and stuff,
You cant tell from these vids but I have a feeling the lighting is going to be really good.
They have already confirmed the multiplayer to be 1080p 60fps, I wonder if they will go 1080p 30fps for the campaign ala killzone:sf. Personally I would prefer If they went 900p if it meant more next gen graphics and higher poly count like ryse did.
You cant tell from these vids but I have a feeling the lighting is going to be really good.
They have already confirmed the multiplayer to be 1080p 60fps, I wonder if they will go 1080p 30fps for the campaign ala killzone:sf. Personally I would prefer If they went 900p if it meant more next gen graphics and higher poly count like ryse did.
Poodlestrike
Banned
The worst part of Armor Abilities is that they made each encounter random; you couldn't plan for the whole range of possible reactions. Once you take that away, you're left with an entirely different animal. It's not just a remarketing.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
LookAtMeGo
Member
I think this is looking good. I was a big Halo fan but have been MIA for quite a while. I am ok with some gameplay changes.
Its a sticky situation for 343i. How do you please the hardcore fans and appeal to new players at once? It seems like releasing MCC just before H5 is a good gameplan. You get good oldschool Halo for the new console to please the fans then release a new one thats "modernized" to appeal to a wider audience.
It looks like they are at least trying to keep the fans happy without alienating the newer generation of players.
Would they lose more sales with making some changes or keeping it the same? I dunno.
Its a sticky situation for 343i. How do you please the hardcore fans and appeal to new players at once? It seems like releasing MCC just before H5 is a good gameplan. You get good oldschool Halo for the new console to please the fans then release a new one thats "modernized" to appeal to a wider audience.
It looks like they are at least trying to keep the fans happy without alienating the newer generation of players.
Would they lose more sales with making some changes or keeping it the same? I dunno.
rokkerkory
Member
This thread is about the MP however. I also liked H4 SP but not MP.
Navidson REC
Member
Let's hope this situation ends in a similar fashion.
No idea. Let's wait until tomorrow to find out. But my guess is that it's just like it has always been: weapons that had zoom, still have it; the others don't. The only difference: it looks different.
Although someone somewhere said that the AR had it too... But, again: let's just wait...
I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic and playing on the whole "is Halo still relevant?" idea...
I hope this is sarcasm, too.
Exactly. People need to understand this.
Alright, sure, it is aiming down the sights, yes. Cosmetically. And that's where the similarities to CoD end. The player does not get slowed down. Shooting from the hip is just as accurate as "aiming down the sights"/zooming.
To put it in a nutshell: Halo 5 still has the same old zooming mechanic - it just looks different.
Personally, I think it's a smart move. Every shooter has ADS now, so people expect it. And it might even be more immersive, I guess. Unlike other shooters, however, Halo doesn't slow movement to a crawl with it.
On a related note: I'm really intrigued by the new movement options. It seems only natural that Halo's Spartans should be able to do this. And Titanfall really made me appreciate increased mobility.
RoyalLaFlame
Banned
I guess sprinting could be ditched but ADS is not so bad. But I agree, no killstreak just an arena style shooter with fair gameplay (if the ADS is how they described it). No custom loadouts, nothing like that.
I completely agree that one should play something before completely judging its quality, but let's be reasonable here, gameplay footage is a good indicator of the feature set of a particular game.
Gameplay footage of a Halo 5 character sprinting is good evidence of there being sprinting in Halo 5. Gameplay footage of a Halo 5 character aiming down the sights of a gun is good evidence of there being ADS in Halo 5. If someone has a particular aversion to sprinting or ADS, (as many people in this thread have explained their grievances) then this information is obviously going to be a hit against the game.
PairOfFilthySocks
Member
Oh boy!
I sure can't wait to play as some fucking twat whose character and backstory has been already handled in some book/film outside of the main game series!
If there's anything I love, it's being able to experience a story that relies on different entries in different fucking mediums to figure out what kind of person the MAIN FUCKING CHARACTER is.
But no doubt some douche-bag suits at MS are high-fiving each other over their product synergy or some nonsense.
I cannot stand shit like this.
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
The halo thread has had like 20 OT's or something. This is nothing.
When was sprint ever a get out of jail free card in Halo though? In Halo 4 you died to quickly too escape anything even with sprint and in Reach sprinting had a build up to full speed meaning you couldn't sprint away in combat anyway. Guy is full of shit.
Krappadizzle
Member
It has nothing to do with high horse and more on baseless assumptions that I guess you yourself are making. I have played hundreds of hours of Halo 2&3 too and I'm not acting like a child based off of a blurry snippet. Beta comes out, complain away. But there is no context and you choose to just react anyways.
Twilight Gap
Member
"these are spartans they should have the ability to sprint"
that's a canonical reason for sprint, whereby not being able to sprint "wouldn't make sense" to you.
same reason ADS - even visually - doesn't make sense from a canon standpoint.
the contradiction (in general) is what bothers me. spartans should always move fast. it's the sustainable jog speed that makes them a spartan, not a short burst of speed.
Gnome Scat
Member
Probably, although I'll miss my LT frag pulls. Hopefully they'll just get moved to one of the bumpers.
RIP Halo Scrubs 2014-2015.
So, was there not obvious sprinting in that footage? Am I blind? It seems people are really eager to pull the "This is NeoGAF" card just to feel as if they are somehow higher than everyone else on this forum.
RoyalLaFlame
Banned
I hope we can change that.
People are making these assumptions based of Halo 4 dude, Halo 4 had everything we've seen in these clips and was worse because of it. People remember Halo 4 and 343 still have a lot to prove.
Shaunboy97
Member
Welp!!! Can I have your copies since everyone jumped ship over 7 seconds... Guess I'll be wandering around multiplayer by myself!!
Souless Squirrel
Member
Will wait to see more but the more I see 343 do the more I really don't feel like they know what to do with halo.
TheDarkTriforce
Banned
Looks Awesome 
Where did you hear this from?
Stripper13
Member
This is my experience as an Australian Halo fan.