If the game is CPU limited running at a higher resolution would unlikely make it worse.
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Assassins Creed: Unity Framerate Is Atrocious
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If the game is CPU limited running at a higher resolution would unlikely make it worse.
GHG
Member
This wouldn't necessarily be the case (in theory):
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=138489091
Also if the PC performance thread is anything to go by it is mostly those with higher clockspeeds who are enjoying better minimum frame rates. That would suggest the game scales linearly as you increase the CPU clock speed hence the XB1 is performing better in most areas.
The xb1's GPU is likely maxed out at 900p in this game but the PS4 GPU will have some overhead that they have chosen not to use by not increasing the resolution.
XB1 definitely performing admirably: https://account.xbox.com/gameclip/e16edbc8-a184-485f-8985-7f05d777b63b?gamertag=FbtmoPenguins&scid=03a80100-9ff3-46ea-be76-e00e7fe465df
Don't even need a crowd for the game to just chug along.
Don't even need a crowd for the game to just chug along.
NullPointer
Member
Of course it has all 60 frames, just every 5 to 6 seconds or so. So you can savor them more.
Damerman
Member
really? i'm running the game flawlessly with DSR and Max settings. the recommended specs were an i7 Ivy bridge... do you have an i5 or something?
Full Disclosure: I have G-Sync, so frame dips may not be as obvious to me.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
It wasn't pre-release. It came four days later. And performance with the resolution increase went from always 30 to always 30.
kitschbeam
Member
Guys. Can I trust this IGN Video? Because if this is true I'm not going to buy this shit until they fixed it.
Assassin's Creed Unity: Low Framerate Gameplay Clip
Assassin's Creed Unity: Low Framerate Gameplay Clip
You do know what thread you're in right? There's plenty of people reporting bad frame rate here.
FrostuTheNinja
Member
That's, really tacky of them. Yeesh...
And thanks for the image replies on that store clerk shit earlier. My reaction was a chuckle and a grin at my wife. As soon as we got out of there she asked, "Do you think he believes it?" I told her I hope he does, because that makes it funnier.
I've had it drop to that level a couple times while climbing up some of the cathedrals. That's not typical though. It's usually running around 20fps in crowded areas. It's still really awful.
kitschbeam
Member
Yeah I know, but I just didn't expect it to be this bad :/
MMaRsu
Banned
What the fuck??
MMaRsu
Banned
Please dont buy it at all. Dont reward this company for putting out a shit product.
Derpcrawler
Member
This guy runs game on 6 core CPU that cost 800USD, overclocked on top of it and it's still dips to mid 40s for him (pure observation, I see dips here and there).
Seems like game is very sensitive to your CPU.
cpp_is_king
Member
I can fix this game in about an hour with access to their source. Find the config file that controls NPCs, set the number of them to about half, rebuild.
Stereogatari
Banned
Ubisoft has him now.
NullPointer
Member
I'd be careful with that. Some of them might be load-bearing NPCs.
Yes it would.
Higher resolution also needs more CPU power (not that much compared to GPU power of course), but you would loose some fps.
Beer Monkey
Member
This. If the PS4 version were bumped up to 1080p it would run even worse. LESS parity.
Given what we are seeing from the PC version, all of the stupid accusations and implications of moneyhats limiting the PS4 should stop right now. This game got too aggressive with its visuals and this is the result. They dreamed too big, and didn't have the code or hardware to back up their dream. With some tweaks and optimizing, this could be the most amazing engine so far of this gen, in some game.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
1080p
Everything else set to low/off
13-18 fps in the Palace, as soon as you play with the kid
haha .. this GIF is amazing.
Amon-Lau
Member
The nerve of these guys... from the OT:
Keep digging that hole you idiots.
Felt this should be added as reference...
Ubisoft definitely deserves to take a hit for this. They should have released AC Rogue in October on all platforms (why go 360/PS3 when Black Flag was already on the new systems) and let this game actually be finished. Such a lousy company.
The nerve of these guys... from the OT:
Keep digging that hole you idiots.
Wow...glad I did cancel that pre-order.
That seems more like the game is stalling while attempting to load assets (or something else in the background) rather than a low frame-rate. This is an entirely different issue.
EdwardTeach
Member
I have liberation, and this looks worse.
GHG
Member
Actually the very definition of being "CPU bound" means that if you increase the resolution you wouldn't see a decrease in FPS provided you are not also GPU bound at that resolution. If you are CPU bound you can keep increasing the resolution and only at the point where you start seeing the framerate decrease do you then become GPU bound.
Thats if Ubisofts words are to be believed of course.
Ok, I understand this differently.
For me "CPU bound" means that with the current resolution (and framerate) the CPU is maxed out (there would be some GPU power left to spare).
But increasing the resolution would need more CPU power which is not there anymore because they are maxed out => fps get lower.
Maastricht
Member
I've seen two videos with this kind of stutter, and they both featured these stained glass windows (one from outside and one from inside the church). Can't be a coincidence, has to be something with this particular lighting effect/transparancy.
GHG
Member
As far as I was aware increasing resolution would only require more GPU power in CPU bound situations. There would be very little (if any at all) extra load exerted on the CPU from increasing the resolution so you should pretty much see an identical framerate until you also become GPU bound.
In a CPU bound situation you should also be able to decrease the resolution and not see any increase in framerate since the CPU is supposed to be the limiting factor. In a situation like that the only way you will get increased FPS is by increasing the clock speed of your CPU or by getting a better CPU entirely.
Unless I've somehow got this completely backwards?
EDIT:
From the horses mouth:
As far as I'm aware increasing resolution doesn't change the amount of impact that AI has last time I checked.
It's some sort of animation/rigging or pathing bug when climbing. It's 100% reproducible in certain area. If you pay close attention when he's moving the stick in a certain direction Arno's hair bugs out and stretches. That's always accompanied by the huge framerate loss. I feel like that issue is all over the game.
Yep. Never again after this crap. Has Ubisoft made any comment on how shit the performance is yet? Their Twitter accounts are in full PR ad mode, I guess they're trying to get as many sales as possible before word of mouth spreads.
WordsintheWater
Member
Shit is ridiculous especially when you notice how smooth it runs when you're going through alleyways with a few NPC's on screen. Once you come out on the main road, back to being a shit fest.
HORRORSHØW
Member
bwahahaha. goty material. thanks ubisoft.
MMaRsu
Banned
Hajahah omg what a creepers
"It was terrible. But not her. She was an angel. Always smiling... that's because she had no lips. But her mouth was still very much in play."
JonathanPower
Member
All the bugs and glitches show that it's obviouly an unfinished game. Now the question is, are they still working on it, and will it get fixed? They really need to fix all these issues.
That's what I thought as well.
I also thought I read that they could also use the GPU for extra CPU processes instead of using the extra power for extra resolution/graphic increases.
Devs comment in their decisions to go for 900p and 30fps, but have they ever commented on designing/releasing a game that can't get a solid 30fps and why? Like, what in the actual fuck are they thinking? Why would you let your 7th/8th iteration be a shit frame rate?
jedmaxwell
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Assassins Creed: Gulliver's Travels confirmed!
Thanks to PunishedSnake for the original image...and a cap doffed to the original steam community source
WordsintheWater
Member
I hope they fix things because there's a pretty good game underneath all that crap. A bunch of things to do in the game, and one of the best settings in any AC, the scale is just amazing, but as it is right now my enjoyment gets killed every time I play.
That's true when the gpu is the only element working on the resolution. At the moment seems that we don't have all the info for that analysis. I will put an eye when my origin copy will be unlocked. Ubisoft devs said that the game is CPU bound BECAUSE the cpu works in the lighting too.
My guess: they want a really good light system for the game. They want a really impressive crowd system for the game too. "They" are a different team than "they" and don't talk enough from one to another.
Ubi realized the current gen gpus are not god enough for a realtime global ilumination system in a big open city like Paris. At least with the GI routines they had available. They opted to cut daytime cycle and replace it with different fixed time days using a big amount of data for baked GI (precalculated color info for every asset in the city). That data can be a lot GB. New consoles have a lot of RAM, but not enough to have stored all that data. So they need some kind of decompress/transfer to RAM routines in the same way that "Megatexture" games so they can stream that in a big open world. I think in the case of Unity is not something they do to texel level, but a pixel level. Then they filter and mix the buffer with the GI info. So screen resolution affects CPU tasks. For the crowd system, CPU is stressed too and in the end they have too many task for the cores.
My guess is that using realtime TOD dinamic cycle without GI Ubisoft could achieve a 1080p locked 30 fps game. But they take the wrong path and then escape going forward.
About the cathedral hiccups, I there is a invisible wall in the middle of the cathedral to split the city in two chunks and passing through that wall the game clear every data to load the new ones.
jedmaxwell
Member
I've not played AC since II and I really felt this captured the essence of that game. Until there is a fix (or acknowledgement that they are aware of issues to be fixed) I'll hold off for the time being.