benicillin
Banned
If you just pretend that your current exotic is a new exotic that you just got dropped, then there is no difference between grinding upgrades for new weapons or old weapons. Same time commitment.
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Destiny: Exotic weapons fixed.... and then broken.
- Thread starter Victory Red
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If you just pretend that your current exotic is a new exotic that you just got dropped, then there is no difference between grinding upgrades for new weapons or old weapons. Same time commitment.
Ryouji Gunblade
Member
There's a lot of Bungie employees in this thread then.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Because that gives you more things to do in the game! Yay?
Anton Sugar
Member
This really just feels like they're trying to find ways to artificially lengthen the game, still.
This too.
Hope you have all of your characters at level 29/30 already, because good luck getting there now that you can only get a single item per reputation levels.
What the fuck are they thinking? This change will shut out almost all new players after they hit 24.
HawksWinStanley
Member
With none of the perks you already unlocked. I'd much rather have a 300 weapon with all the perks than a 302 weapon that can only fire bullets.
we.are.the.armada
Member
waaaiit xur only has a random chance to offer the upgrade for our current exotics hahaha
Waylon Drums
Member
So this is fucking stupid. Fortunately for me, I have barely been able to come across any exotic armor and exactly 0 exotic weapons, so my Destiny life won't change TOO much.
gutterboy44
Member
The amount of "currencies" that will be in Destiny as of the first DLC (that we are aware of)
Pick your progress gate! Plenty to choose from.
- Glimmer
- Vanguard Marks
- Crucible Marks
- Weapons Parts
- Hardonic Essence
- Sapphire Wire
- Plasteel Plating
- Ascendant Shards
- Ascendant Energies
- Motes of Light
- Strange Coins
- Exotic Shards
- Radiant Energies
- Radiant Shards
- Vanguard Reputation
- Crucible Reputation
- Dead Orbit Reputation
- New Monarchy Reputation
- Future War Cult Reputation
- Vanguard Commendation
- Crucible Commendation
- Spin Metal
- Helium Coils
- Spirit Bloom
- Relic Iron
- XP
- Light Levels
Pick your progress gate! Plenty to choose from.
Potential employees. The ones doing mental gymnastics to justify this are auditioning for DeeJ's job, since he doesn't seem to enjoy it anymore.
Holy shit. So Bungie puts out a patch with no-brainer fixes that should have been introduced two months ago. Then plans on adding an entire slew of dumb, retarded mechanics that will probably take another 2-3 months for them to roll back.
Haven't bought the expansion yet, but was planning to. After reading about these garbage changes I think that may be it for me.
Haven't bought the expansion yet, but was planning to. After reading about these garbage changes I think that may be it for me.
Then keep your weapon at 300? You aren't forced to upgrade.
They shouldn't reset the progress on exotics. They should just add a few more upgrade nodes that increase attack rating. They are basically taking away all of the time that I spent upgrading my exotics. What the hell are Bungie thinking? They had to have known this would piss almost everyone off.
The only difference is the time and energy you already invested into the weapon?
For a game about getting better loot and higher and higher numbers that's a good solution.
So, like I said, on the 9th.
Otherwise you're really just swapping one grind for another in name and kind. I'd rather work through my perks again reasonably than have to pour 150,000XP+ into one node with nothing to look foward to.
Guess bungie guessed wrong that Prestiging is still a thing people like, because that's effectivly what this is dling without messing with your damage outputs.
Stallion Dan
Member
So to upgrade one exotic fully it will cost you two exotics...
Bungie, why you suck so much?
Bungie, why you suck so much?
it's 6 exotic armors and 6 exotic weapons per week, not 1
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
Essentially Bungie has made leveling any not top tier exotic a waste because every 3 months the same bullshit will happen again.
Right after they make more exotics worth using, they make them useless again.
Right after they make more exotics worth using, they make them useless again.
Kojirospath
Member
Terrible, terrible post! More to do? LOL!! More of the same you mean!!! This is not adding content. It's fluff to keep us around longer.
Most people get it. Most people that enjoy the game wont post here because of all the complainers.
Or some strange coins which are super easy to get. I have over 180 at the moment.
yes that's whet should be causing the outrage. It's a bullshit change and should be called out. The exotic change isn't a big deal.
This would be even more golden if you are not sarcastic. Let's pretend that bad games are good games while we are at it, it will surely feel just like a good game. Same time commitment and all.
I don't think you know what "currencies" means. Unless, to you, currencies means anything you can count, accumulate, or collect?
Jinjo
Member
It's the perks bro. They should have just added some more damage nodes to the gun when you upgrade. That actually makes sense you know. But fuck it, gotta keep that grind alive.
Deej spitting in the face of all the Destiny players is just icing on the cake.
Sola Scriptura
Member
These are some of the dumbest changes made to an online game I've ever seen.
It's almost as if Bungie didn't examine a single MMO before making Destiny. There were years and years worth of material from previous MMOs that could have been looked at to see what worked, what didn't, etc., and Bungie simply blew it off.
DeeJ likes to say that Bungie's always listening, right? Well, listen to this, DeeJ:
This is not the way to introduce new content while keeping existing gear relevant. Not. Even. Close.
It's almost as if Bungie didn't examine a single MMO before making Destiny. There were years and years worth of material from previous MMOs that could have been looked at to see what worked, what didn't, etc., and Bungie simply blew it off.
DeeJ likes to say that Bungie's always listening, right? Well, listen to this, DeeJ:
This is not the way to introduce new content while keeping existing gear relevant. Not. Even. Close.
Well, have you read how much "content" is in the ""expansion?""
We know that one of the Strikes is a re-skin. What do you want to bet that the second Strike is as well?
I'm going to laugh when Crota is an over-sized Knight (which at this point, I think EVERYONE is expecting).
I love how they patch the game to make vanguard levels take longer to increase two days before letting it be known that you have to increase vanguard levels to buy vanguard gear going forward. It's like bungie is playing their own meta game to see how much fun they can suck out of the game before people stop playing.
On the plus side I'll be able to start working through my backlog now, and I'm very glad that I waited before throwing money at the expansion. Their answer to releasing a $20 content bare expansion is to make the current grind even longer. Maybe they'll learn from their mistakes for destiny 2...
On the plus side I'll be able to start working through my backlog now, and I'm very glad that I waited before throwing money at the expansion. Their answer to releasing a $20 content bare expansion is to make the current grind even longer. Maybe they'll learn from their mistakes for destiny 2...
ab.aeterno
Member
Are you fucking kidding me? Wow. The changes from the last patch almost brought new back in, but fuck this.
No, it will cost you 14 strange coins. If you want to dismantle your own exotics instead go ahead.
only 1 for the new DLC items
Anton Sugar
Member
Yup. The entire point of Exotics is that they have fucking awesome perks.
How many exotics are actually better at 302 damage than 300 damage with their perks?
Maybe, Universal Remote?
If it looks like an MMO and plays like an MMO.....
Seriously, this is what you get when you put MMO mechanics in to your game. It"s the legendaries that annoy me most and has me questioning my will to carry on. The exotic reforging is better than most MMO type systems but 7k glimmer and a shard is too steep.
Thing is, we can only equip one weapon and one armor exotic at a time - the rest have to be made up from legendaries which we'll have to re-buy with yet another new currency barrier (commendations are now needed, which you only get every time you level up a faction) and then upgrade from scratch with ascendant materials again, which are even harder to get now.
Fuck. That.
Seriously, this is what you get when you put MMO mechanics in to your game. It"s the legendaries that annoy me most and has me questioning my will to carry on. The exotic reforging is better than most MMO type systems but 7k glimmer and a shard is too steep.
Thing is, we can only equip one weapon and one armor exotic at a time - the rest have to be made up from legendaries which we'll have to re-buy with yet another new currency barrier (commendations are now needed, which you only get every time you level up a faction) and then upgrade from scratch with ascendant materials again, which are even harder to get now.
Fuck. That.
xplicitone
Member
Yea I can't do that. I can't pretend because I know it's not. I have plenty of current guns i'm in the process of upgrading already so I don't have time to do old ones again, let alone the new ones that will get. Way too much. Keep the old ones and add new bubbles or reset the last x amount of bubbles, something. Not a complete regrind, just maybe a tiny bit. I don't mind doing the current ones and new ones.
That's correct. All of your old Legendaries are rendered useless, with no upgrade path (like with Exotics).
RIP Comedian and Shadow Price, I hardly knew ye. ;_;
Sola Scriptura
Member
You better believe it. That's apparently the way they designed Destiny: intentional obsolescence to manufacture grind states that keep people playing.
Pretty sure they didn't decrease the rate of Vanguard rep, only Cryptarch.
gutterboy44
Member
Those are all things you require at some point to buy something or participate in something. Hence "currency" in quotes. They made an already convoluted system even worse by adding more currencies/gates.
HawksWinStanley
Member
I'm not forced to upgrade it as long as I don't want to ever use it while playing the new content you mean. Seeing as how you'll need it to be maxed to be fully effective against higher level enemies I'm either stuck wasting my time regrinding or wasting my time pouring more bullets into their bullet sponge enemies because my weapon doesn't do as much damage.
Anton Sugar
Member
The thing is, this is worse than any MMO I've played.
It's like they looked at a list of bullet points for an MMO and said, "hm yeah ok we can do that" and that's the extent of their research.
You definitely know what "pedant" means, that's for sure.
Until they add a way for you to reforge legendarys to grind them out again, yes.
Obsolete now.