ShadowKingpin
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Ohhhhh my apologies. Misunderstanding on my part.
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America not getting regular size N3DS, confirmed.
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Ohhhhh my apologies. Misunderstanding on my part.
Exactly. Basically, if I want the faster processor, exclusive features, amiibo support, improved 3D and c-stick -- which I do -- I have to take a hit on image quality (which is major to me), audio quality, form factor and aesthetic value. Not only that, I have to pay more money to take that hit than I would have if Nintendo had just offered the preferable, cheaper option (and even more still, because I'll have to buy an AC adapter if I want to sell my OG 3DS with its adapter).
So, to reiterate, if I want the New 3DS features, I have to accept downgrades in multiple areas and pay substantially more money than I had planned. It's a shit deal.
EDIT:
No problem, it's easy to get lost in this thread. Lots of us are ranting, and I'm ranting a bit, too.
Eh, it's disappointing for sure... But really it just made the decision for me.
I was dithering between the two, but admittedly the only reason I wanted the normal sized one was because of the customization...i was to this day though, skeptical that I'd be able to go back to the smaller screen.
I was dithering between the two, but admittedly the only reason I wanted the normal sized one was because of the customization...i was to this day though, skeptical that I'd be able to go back to the smaller screen.
ShadowKingpin
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Well, I sent my e-mail to Nintendo to vent my frustration in a professional manner. I know it won't really do any good, but at least it's an additional voice to be lent.
NoA is so awesome.
I just did the same. As I said in the email, I know that one voice isn't going to change a major corporation, but it's still worth getting the opinion out there. First time I've sent such a message to Nintendo in almost 30 years as a customer. Godspeed to those folks who took the time to send a reasonable complaint.
Whaaaaaa??? You aren't taking a hit on image quality, that'd be like saying that going from a 40" TV to a 50" was a graphical downgrade. And audio quality? What makes the sound quality worse on the XL than the regular one? Form factor and aesthetic value I can see, but I don't care about either of those, bigger screen is better for me. It is quite silly of them not to include an AC adapter, but 5-10$ is not a huge investment. NOA could've done better, but it's insane to get so salty about it.
It's not your fault. Most of us did..
TheSlySoul
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I apologize too. My crow was pretty good tasting though. I thought they at least bring one color over since face plates.
I am curious why they think face plates wouldn't sell? Phone cases is a huge industry in the US.
Edit: Actually now that I think about it, it makes way more sense why mobile is kicking 3DS/Vita butt in NA.
Quadraphonic
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After Amiibos, and the GameCube adapters, the next "gotta buy it before they sell out" trend will be AC adapters.
I wish I was fucking joking.
Though the XL screens are bigger, they essentially "blow up" the image of the 3DS, without scaling the resolution to compensate for the lager image. What you get, then, is much less pixel density (the smaller screen has better PPI, or pixels-per-inch). So yes, you take a significant hit on image quality. And the speaker quality of the XL is notoriously worse than that of the OG 3DS.
It's not insane at all. Read my posts, they're completely reasonable complaints.
Quadraphonic
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I don't apologize at all for saying that Nintendo wouldn't be that stupid.
Stop right there.
The speakers on my New 3DS XL are significantly improved over the original model and sound great.
This I had not heard (the original XL speakers were terrible). That's good news. But it still doesn't change the reduced PPI, form factor or higher price.
The pixels aren't that much bigger. If it's a problem, don't get so close to the system while playing. As for sound quality, are you talking about NEW 3DS XL or OG 3DS XL? Has anybody attested to the new one having bad audio quality?
Like I asked above, is this a problem with the NEW 3DS XL or are people just assuming it's gonna be carried over from the old one?
The PPI is a non issue when you start using the immersive 3D. The form factor is subjective.
Whatever. I have had a european region New XL since November and I love it. I fully intend on buying the regular size model when its released here next month too, but I still feel like I will prefer the XL.
Hours Left
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This is incredibly lame. Why would they do this?
Definitely putting off getting a New 3DS now. They'll cave on this eventually.
Definitely putting off getting a New 3DS now. They'll cave on this eventually.
BouncyFrag
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I have a feeling that the guy who bought all those amiibos will do the same with the AC adapters.
Big-ass Ramp
hella bullets that's true
NoA probably has a crap ton of regular 3DS stock that they didn't want to further devalue. I'd imagine this is an inventory issue.
Or they're just making it up as they go.
Or they're just making it up as they go.
The PPI is an issue. It is objectively worse.
You guys say you prefer the XL; that's great, I really wish I were in your shoes. I, however, prefer the non-XL, as do many people. Can you not understand that some consumers don't like losing features that they enjoy in order to have new features? Let alone that we'll have to pay more money to do so, if we want those new features? That's really all there is to it. I don't know how else to say it.
You guys say you prefer the XL; that's great, I really wish I were in your shoes. I, however, prefer the non-XL, as do many people. Can you not understand that some consumers don't like losing features that they enjoy in order to have new features? Let alone that we'll have to pay more money to do so, if we want those new features? That's really all there is to it. I don't know how else to say it.
ShadowKingpin
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I only choose the XL because of my eyesight. I wish Nintendo would just allow Americans to choose which version they want to purchase instead of forcing them to only have one.
meanspartan
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Not the last, but I bet it will be one of few that require it. Why on earth would third parties (or even Nintendo) want to cut out the large install base like that? I do think it's possible we start getting two versions of games though, or the same game "enhanced" on New 3DS to take advantage of faster processor.
I see you have forgotten about the Game Boy Color. Its happened before.
Yeah I'm pissed. I had an XL that I returned for 2 reasons and kept my OG. The first reason is fixed and had to do with a pinhead sized 3D sweet spot. The second one is how much worse that low res screen looks blown up.
This may be the first time I don't upgrade to a new mainstream console/handheld with exclusive games since the Sega-CD. Dumb move Nintendo.
Maaaan. I bought Kid Icarus a while back and it's fucking uncomfortable to play with an XL. Like I couldn't do 10 minutes. Same with MK7, but to a lesser extent. Thought all is well, I'll get a N3DS for the more comfortable size, with portability as an extra plus. Then NoA pulls an NoA move. Lmao.
Guess that makes my gaming budget a little less heavy. I think they'll cave an release some sort of limited edition eventually, so I guess its wait for that or the next handheld.
Guess that makes my gaming budget a little less heavy. I think they'll cave an release some sort of limited edition eventually, so I guess its wait for that or the next handheld.
I have a feeling that they won't cave because these will sell and it'll give them the excuse not to. If months of fans calling them about Mother 3 didn't do anything, nothing will change this.
bobawesome
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No upgrading for me, then.
Team Top Hat
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You're arguing with Nintendo fanboys man. You can't critcize their company at all. We both know you're right. They think you're wrong because you make Nintendo look bad.
meanspartan
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Ehhhh. By that point the Game Boy was damn near 10 years old, and the Game Boy Color was capable of more and was more of a totally different handheld than an iteration like the New 3DS.
I think Game Boy Color is to Game Boy like 3DS is to DS, and NOT New 3Ds/3Ds.
oh no, bombarded you say? gosh
The funny thing is, I'm a Nintendo fan, through-and-through. By and large, I really like the things the company does (hence, being a fan). But somehow, I've also retained the ability to call bullshit. And this is some shit.
Ah, well. I've voiced my opinion in this thread and via email to Nintendo of America, and I've done so reasonably. Not much else to say on the matter.
Dawnbuster
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The fact they are going with black is the only reason I'm considering trading in my XL in the Gamestop deal for a "new" version. I hated having to choose between Red and Blue, neither of which I wanted, back when the XL launched. Always wanted Black.
Fishmonger
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I just want my Miku faceplates
Is that so much to ask, NoA
Is that so much to ask, NoA
ClayKavalier
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They'll test the water for exclusives with Xenoblade, if it tanks games going forward will be like old Game Boy games that had more features on the Color.
Realistically the only other exclusives will be eShop games.
Quadraphonic
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See if you can figure this out before you finish reading this post.
Oh.
It all makes sense now.
If Nintendo had the New 3DS come out here that would mean faceplates.
Right?
Where would you get them? Stores, online... out of the country. For the Japanese N3DSs.
It's not simply because it would be cheaper. But faceplates. They couldn't region lock them. You'd be able to import them from Japan since NOA would fuck that up, too.
Nintendo region-locked faceplates.
Oh.
It all makes sense now.
If Nintendo had the New 3DS come out here that would mean faceplates.
Right?
Where would you get them? Stores, online... out of the country. For the Japanese N3DSs.
It's not simply because it would be cheaper. But faceplates. They couldn't region lock them. You'd be able to import them from Japan since NOA would fuck that up, too.
Nintendo region-locked faceplates.
The Outsider
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I was going to get the XL anyway, but this just seems like a bizarre decision to make.
Alex
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Kinda wanted the smaller one for aesthetics and faceplates. XL is fine ultimately but until Nintendo moves out of glorious eye searing 240p the extra size isn't really much of a boon.
Seen a few people mention phone size obsession here but when phones went bigger in size it came with a bump to 1080p+.
Seen a few people mention phone size obsession here but when phones went bigger in size it came with a bump to 1080p+.
patrickthehedgehog
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I seriously thought that they would region lock the faceplates when the N3DS came out here in the US. Looks like the end result was even worse than that. Kept me from ordering any in advance at least.
Hours Left
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Not the same thing IMO. As much as I love the Mother series and would kill to see it released in NA, it's not the same as skipping over an entire handheld sku.
They want people to embrace this new version (and piggyback the amiibo craze that's running right now), but they limit the entry point to the highest cost, when the new additions of the system are not enough on their own to justify it. It's super shady and I hope it blows up right in their face.
Iced_Eagle
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Same with me. I have an original 3DS, and was making the jump to the XL. However, I really don't understand why Nintendo would just decide not to sell the original here. It just seems really strange not to ship a product which is available in other countries. It's not like they don't have the software, or the hardware.
Is it a supply issue and they want to focus on the bigger countries? Is it a retail shelf space issue? Cost of marketing? Cost of importing them here from overseas? There's a lot of factors involved, and somewhere along the way the math just didn't line up for Nintendo. Hopefully it's more of a supply chain issue, because that would mean there's a potential for them to release it here later on. If it were a retail issue, I wish they would have just done online orders only or something, because there is clearly some demand for it.
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