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Draft of Arrest Warrant for Argentine President Found at Dead Prosecutor’s Home

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ivysaur12

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What.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/04/world/americas/argentina-prosecutor-alberto-nisman-arrest-warrant-cristina-de-kirchner.html?smid=tw-bna

BUENOS AIRES — Alberto Nisman, the prosecutor whose mysterious death has gripped Argentina, had drafted a warrant for the arrest of President Cristina Fernández de Kirchner, accusing her of trying to shield Iranian officials from responsibility in the 1994 bombing of a Jewish center here, the lead investigator into his death said on Tuesday.

The 26-page document, which was found in the garbage at Mr. Nisman’s apartment, also requested the arrest of Héctor Timerman, Argentina’s foreign minister. Both Mrs. Kirchner and Mr. Timerman have repeatedly denied Mr. Nisman’s accusation that they tried to reach a secret deal with Iran to lift international arrest warrants for Iranian officials wanted in connection with the bombing.

The new revelation that Mr. Nisman had drafted arrest warrants for the president and the foreign minister further illustrates the heightened tensions between him and the government before he was found dead on Jan. 18 at his apartment with a gunshot wound to his head. He had been scheduled the next day to provide details before Congress about his accusations against Mrs. Kirchner.

“It would have provoked a crisis without precedents in Argentina,” said Sergio Berensztein, a political analyst, about the impact of the warrants if they had been issued. He acknowledged that previous legal cases had shaken Argentina’s political establishment, but he emphasized that this case involved a request to arrest a sitting president.

“It would have been a scandal on a level previously unseen,” Mr. Berensztein said.
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Viviana Fein, the prosecutor investigating Mr. Nisman’s death, confirmed on Tuesday morning that Mr. Nisman had prepared the draft of the warrant requesting the president’s arrest. Confusion about the document had emerged when Ms. Fein had initially denied its existence, after the newspaper Clarín published an article on Sunday about the draft.
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Oh my god.
 
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Kinitari

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Random Painted HIghway said:
So the assassin just threw the draft in the garbage? You have to take the computers and torch the apartment, that is just common sense.
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Because this is now becoming a movie-like situation, my guess is the assassin was knocking on the door and the guy got spooked and tried to trash evidence. The assassin came in, killed the guy anyway, and fled before he got a chance to really dig around.

Or maybe this was the first draft, and there was a typo or something, and so he tossed it out, and the assassin found the final draft and took that - thinking it was the only copy.

Or maybe the assassin found the draft, crumpled it up and tossed in the garbage while patting him/herself in the back.
 
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Lautaro

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Zeeman said:
They found it in the garbage? Way to be incompetent, mysterious assassins.
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Isn't it the CIA's theory that the argentinian espionage services just want to implicate and weakens Cristina's government?

Argie politics are crazy filthy.
 
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Zeeman

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darkside31337 said:
Does anyone seriously believe this was a suicide?
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Obviously he was so distraught at how badly his draft warrants were coming along that he chucked them in the garbage out of dismay and subsequently killed himself. Seems pretty straightforward to me.
 
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liquidtmd

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'What an interesting document. Oh well, too bad the person who drafted it is dead. We will never know eh, guess we better forget the whole thing'!

This stinks.
 
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Foffy

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Yeah, no way this was a suicide. That kind of information leans very, very heavily to this being an assassination, if there was any doubt to begin with.
 
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Africanus

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Occam's razor says that if one is drafting a warrant for the arrest of a president and foreign minister, and that he was very motivated towards seeing this case on to the end, then obviously he must have committed suicide.
I do not have faith that the investigation that will proceed unbiased and fairly.
 
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ivysaur12

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Or what if someone wanted to make it look like Kirchner had him killed and they purposefully left the draft in the trash.

ALL OPTIONS ARE ON THE TABLE.
 
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NullPointer

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“It would have been a scandal on a level previously unseen,” Mr. Berensztein said.
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Sounds like it still is.

Is there some reason somebody else can't pick up the ball and run with this?

Besides a fear of getting shot?
 
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Darklord

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How big is this news Argentina? I'm assuming it's huge but what's the feel of things over there? Does anyone know?
 
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Joni

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You know. If I was in that position and I wanted to commit suicide, this is what I'd do. But then again, I clearly am an asshole.
 
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Vincent Alexander

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For some reason the article isn't loading for me. Is someone else going to pick up the case where the prosecutor left off?

“It would have provoked a crisis without precedents in Argentina."
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What do they mean "would have"? They have all the prosecutor's evidence and shit! Someone use it! Right? Surely it won't all go to waste, including the draft for an arrest?
 
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Funky Papa

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Zeeman said:
They found it in the garbage? Way to be incompetent, mysterious assassins.
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TacticalFox88 said:
In the garbage?

Really?

REALLY?

Assassin's wanted to be caught confirmed.
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B-Dubs said:
Whoever killed this guy has got to be the most incompetent hitman of all time.
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It's complicated. An extremely well connected journalist learned about the murder right after the fact and made it public via Twitter, which basically screwed the hitman (hitmen?) and prevented them from destroying or substracting whatever they were looking for. From a previous thread:


Reporter who first tweeted news of prosecutor’s death flees Argentina

At 11pm after meeting with his source, Pachter, who works for the web version of the English-language Buenos Aires Herald, wrote on his Twitter account: “I have just been informed about the incident at the home of prosecutor Alberto Nisman.”

About a half-hour later he tweeted: “They found Alberto Nisman in the bathroom at his home in Puerto Madero lying in a pool of blood. He wasn’t breathing. The doctors are there.”

With his tweets, Pachter was the first journalist to break the story of Nisman’s death. Since then, Argentinean society has been rocked by the ongoing investigation into the case and speculation concerning the evidence he had compiled against Fernández de Kirchner and other officials.

After discovering he was being followed by intelligence agents, Pachter said he had to flee the country. He first boarded an Aerolineas Argentina flight to neighboring Montevideo, Uruguay on Friday.

From South America and with a stopover in Madrid, he flew to Israel, a country where he holds citizenship and he says he “spent the best years” of his life.

As the case unfolds, journalists in Argentina are once again feeling the same sense of pressure they did 18 years ago when photographer José Luis Cabezas was killed after taking photos of Alfredo Yabrán, a businessman who was linked to corruption cases during the administration of President Carlos Menem.

Pachter doesn’t know why anyone would want to threaten him on Twitter or by telephone, but he fears his life is in danger. He claims that his phone was tapped and that he was followed “for at least several hours” by a person he believes was an Argentinean intelligence agent.
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“Since this has happened, I keep asking myself what would have occurred if I hadn’t posted that tweet,” said a travel-weary Pachter, who only carried a small backpack with him at the airport outside Tel Aviv. His stay in Israel is indefinite.

“Maybe they had another plan, and my tweet, which took place some hours before anyone suspected, ruined someone’s plans. I still don’t know but I intend to find out,” he said.

“I think it had something to do with a cover-up [on behalf of the authorities]. This is all so strange. The government contradicts itself one day to the next.”
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In a surprising development, the government news agency Télam revealed Pachter’s whereabouts, including making public a copy of his airline ticket to Montevideo. It was later reproduced on the Casa Rosada presidential palace’s Twitter account. Later government officials said the journalist was headed to Tel Aviv.
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Zeeman

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Funky Papa said:
It's complicated. An extremely well connected journalist learned about the murder right after the fact and made it public via Twitter, which basically screwed the hitman (hitmen?) and prevented them from destroying or substracting whatever they were looking for. From a previous thread:


Reporter who first tweeted news of prosecutor’s death flees Argentina
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How on earth did he learn about it quickly enough? Also, what the fuck, the government reported where he'd gone?
 
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Funky Papa

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ivysaur12 said:
Or what if someone wanted to make it look like Kirchner had him killed and they purposefully left the draft in the trash.

ALL OPTIONS ARE ON THE TABLE.
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Kirchner just dissolved Argentina's intelligence bureau, which until a few weeks ago existed as a state within the state, profiting from all kinds of shady dealings.

It has been positioned that Nisman wasn't killed on Kirchner's orders, but by the same operatives who were complicit in covering Iran after the bombing and were probably scared of the shitstorm that Nisman could unravel if he managed to make Kirchner talk. Those are extremely dangerous people, acting without any real supervision and more than probably working for several sides at the same time, including Iran and America.

Zeeman said:
How on earth did he learn about it quickly enough? Also, what the fuck, the government reported where he'd gone?
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It is quite probably one of the most insane things I've seen this year. But I'm hopeful. This crisis is not over yet and 2015 is still young. Don't disappoint me, Argentina!
 
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CrisKre

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Zeeman said:
How on earth did he learn about it quickly enough? Also, what the fuck, the government reported where he'd gone?
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Yes, they TWEETED his itinerary. Highly illegal. Now the official Airline is being prosecuted too for leaking the information.
 
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Delta Assault

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ivysaur12 said:
Or what if someone wanted to make it look like Kirchner had him killed and they purposefully left the draft in the trash.

ALL OPTIONS ARE ON THE TABLE.
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Or maybe Kirchner knew that people would think someone wanted to make it look like Kirchner had him killed and so she purposefully left the draft in the trash...
 
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Funky Papa

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CrisKre said:
Yes, they TWEETED his itinerary. Highly illegal. Now the official Airline is being prosecuted too for leaking the information.
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May that tweet remain in infamy.

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That's the official account of the presidency of Argentina revealing the itinerary of the journalist who uncovered the killing and then flew to safety after discovering he was being followed by Argentinan operatives.

It is so insane it sounds simply unbelievable, yet here it is.
 
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DoktorEvil

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Funky Papa said:
May that tweet remain in infamy.

That's the official account of the presidency of Argentina revealing the itinerary of the journalist who uncovered the killing and then flew to safety after discovering he was being followed by Argentinan operatives.

It is so insane it sounds simply unbelievable, yet here it is.
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Twitter hasn't taken it down yet? WTF!
 
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NYCmetsfan

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ivysaur12 said:
Or what if someone wanted to make it look like Kirchner had him killed and they purposefully left the draft in the trash.

ALL OPTIONS ARE ON THE TABLE.
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Her victimization is great. I was watching a news report on YouTube and the way they were presenting it it was like "does she expect us to believe this?)
 
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Tecl0n

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Funky Papa said:
May that tweet remain in infamy.

MaDgXPh.png


That's the official account of the presidency of Argentina revealing the itinerary of the journalist who uncovered the killing and then flew to safety after discovering he was being followed by Argentinan operatives.

It is so insane it sounds simply unbelievable, yet here it is.
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It's good to see that this has gained enough attention. Regrettably, that tweet is legal since a news site first disclosed the information and if that is like so, twitter allows it. The newsite in question and the airline that leaked the info are all controlled by goverment officials or allies, though.
 
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Africanus

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When real life becomes more fictional than fiction.
The murder of a man who was about to uncover a large scandal.
The president posting the itinerary of the journalist who reported the murder.
Intelligence agents, phone tapping, country hopping, warrants.
All we need now is for the president to be convicted of murder and an Ace Attorney style case.
 
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