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Persona 5 New Trailer
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Admiral Woofington
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Here I thought he was trying to really make him absorb the book. Regardless, point stands. Teacher don't give no fucks, he probably deals with shitty kids all day everyday.
I mean it's still a Japanese high school 'anime' and a Persona game, the uniforms need to be #swag regardless of the status.
I've been thinking about that too and don't know what to make of it since the persona we've seen with the MC certainly hasn't looked like the Joker. What he presumably transforms into looks a lot like Izanagi more than anything else which is also odd. But it may be those are two totally separate things and Joker is his persona and what we've seen in that final scene and the poster and in the Shibuya charge is a totally different aspect of the character. Like an inner demon or something that could play into the whole seven deadly sins thing that was also present.
Scrooge McDuck
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Yes, but I am assuming the delinquents would generally flock to public schools which would have their uniforms resemble gakuran:
Unless this is a private school specializing in rehabilitating problem children, in which case these characters must be pretty well-off.
Love Deterrence
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super-famicom
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I'm reading the actual interview now, the first line containing 「学園ジュブナイル」is this:
I'm translating this as: "Now, this work is a challenge to combine the life size ideas of "Academy juvenile" and "Roman Picaresque*."
*- this is a French term(I think? fr.wikipedia has an article titled this. Roman refers to Roman (Latin literature) and picaresque is Spanish in origin) he uses; in English, it's simply Picaresque (novel), which is a "popular subgenre of prose fiction which might be satirical and depicts, in realistic and often humorous detail, the adventures of a roguish hero of low social class who lives by his wits in a corrupt society."
And 「学園ジュブナイル」 appears a second time:
Which is "...depict (the characters) as academy juveniles.
I think the dev team wants to portray the playable characters as somewhat delinquent (like roguish heroes, since they are using picaresque as an inspiration), but they're not necessarily evil people. So maybe they're taking the essense of Kanji Tatsumi's character and kind of expanding it. And think about it; Kanji in P4 was a delinquent who attended a normal high school and not some special school nor was he thrown into a juvenile detention center. So I feel fairly sure that the Persona 5 Protagonist is attending a regular high school.
edit- The fancier uniforms are probably a sign of a private school, as is the use of 学園 (Academy) in the school's name. Also, high school is not compulsory in Japan, but almost everyone attends it anyways (according to Wikipedia, over 94% or Japanese jr high students go on to attend high school).
double edit- I think everyone who saw the word "juvenile" automatically thought of juvenile detention, or "juvie" as it's also known in the US. I'm running ジュブナイル (juvenile) through a couple of Japanese dictionaries, and one dictionary, Jim Breen's WWWJDIC, defines it as ""young adult fiction." Japan Wikipedia also defines it as "young adult fiction." Another dictionary just repeats it as "juvenile." My final opinion is that the Protagonist did not get put in or is currently in juvenile detention, but that he and the other two characters probably aren't model students or adhere to school/society rules as strictly as their teachers and other adults think they should. In other words, they're somewhat rebellious teens, who are also thieves.
triple edit- There are juvenile detention centers in Japan, but, according to Wikipedia, they and regular prisons are designated as "penal institutions" or prisons/penitentiaries (刑務所; keimusho; literally prison or penitentiary). Based off all the research I've done (though it is limited), "juvenile" is not a term used for youth-oriented 刑務所 in Japan. The term in Japanese is 少年刑務所 (shounen keimusho, literally "youth prison/penitentiary")
You should ink to the artist.
And alright, the above makes it sound like it's a regular high school. That's the vibe I was getting from the trailer, anyways.
Actually I'm getting more Apollo vibes than anything else.
Kawaii!
Wow, that is awesome.
Grim Patron
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i just want a song like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg7CG2QOZsM
best song
best song
Love Deterrence
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Sugoi! Yeah, that artist's stuff is always good BROTHER!
Shit, why didn't they save the robot for this one?
it wouldn't make sense for juvi to be co-ed though, right?
super-famicom
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Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
You folks know what is one of my greatest wishes for Persona?
That we have a customizable main character with character editor.
Mann..... that'd be sweeeeeet
That we have a customizable main character with character editor.
Mann..... that'd be sweeeeeet
Admiral Woofington
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Well the trailer shows us the protag as a thief getting arrested. Maybe:
1. He is a thief
2. Got arrested
3. Went to juvie for X amount of time
4. Everything we've seen of him arriving to the city is post-juvie, starting a new life in this city and high school
5. Uses his new thief powers for JUSTICE
1. He is a thief
2. Got arrested
3. Went to juvie for X amount of time
4. Everything we've seen of him arriving to the city is post-juvie, starting a new life in this city and high school
5. Uses his new thief powers for JUSTICE
Based on the interview given it sounds like neither. They are juvenile contrarian activists who are fighting for what they believe is right. Like revolutionaries in the night. There isn't necessarily a single villain for this game, but a greater conflict that has lacked a leader or heading.
At least that is what I'm surmising. The emancipation themes are about freeing yourself from your inhibitions and being a free agent in the world.
Oh, nice. Cool angle to take for high school. I'll certainly find some delinquency relatable.
Scrooge McDuck
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While I could get behind the notion, I would not be really interested unless they also give gender options. (and in a sense, having customization without it would actually be a tad depressing)
He is 18 at max in the game, so he was a thief at 16? Seems a bit exagerate lol
I think they're just normal high-schooler.
Maybe they just intend "juvenile detention centre" as a metaphore? Like, the school puts so much pressure on them that they break from it by being thieves?
Admiral Woofington
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I'm all for games about being yourself. Education nowadays suppresses creativity.
It'd be really interesting to not have a clear antagonist or opposing force, but this being an SMT game almost surely means some deity was dicking around behind the scenes.
Makes an awesome avatar!
texhnolyze
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People would hate that.
Cipher Cat
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Is there a HD download for this trailer?
Sir Blaming
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well, looks like someone have gotten a new phone wallpaper.
Earthpainting
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I had a solid idea of what to expect, and they actually seemed to have exceeded my expectation in the most important part. The "dungeon" areas already look infinitely more interesting than any Persona game before it. Little touches of interactivity will go a long way to liven them up. I also already expected the interfaces to look swish as fuck, and they really delivered.
The only thing I saw and didn't like was the cat I guess. That Jibanyan/Monokuma version of Teddy looks very out of place and distracting. The cynic in me assumes it only exists for mascotte merch reasons. It employs an entirely different style from the rest.
The only thing I saw and didn't like was the cat I guess. That Jibanyan/Monokuma version of Teddy looks very out of place and distracting. The cynic in me assumes it only exists for mascotte merch reasons. It employs an entirely different style from the rest.
It probably exists because a combination of that and they are going for a literal cat burglar.
It's up to 905k views.
SPACECADET
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i tried persona 4 and didn't make it very far, i'm not very good at rpgs. but man this looks good, i'll try my luck again.
super-famicom
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Emancipation is used as a theme because there's so much pressure at that age in Japan (high school student) to plan your whole life out. You have to basically choose an academic track (humanities, math/science/STEM related topics), join a club (optional but since almost everyone does it it may as well be mandatory), study hard every day (not just at high school, but also cram school (outside tutoring for subjects you're weak in and for university exams) then apply to university, and finally get a job and work work work.
The protagonist and his friends want to break free from this and have the freedom to choose their own path in life, instead of being pressured to do what everyone else does. Hence, the "we're thieves thing." And being inspired by picaresque novels(see my previous post) also played a hand in them being thieves as well.
(I'm pretty sure this was discussed when the game was first teased, but just thought I'd share my thought on it again)
The protagonist and his friends want to break free from this and have the freedom to choose their own path in life, instead of being pressured to do what everyone else does. Hence, the "we're thieves thing." And being inspired by picaresque novels(see my previous post) also played a hand in them being thieves as well.
(I'm pretty sure this was discussed when the game was first teased, but just thought I'd share my thought on it again)
texhnolyze
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Use IDM and download the 1080p HD.
Your best bet would be downloading the 1080p video off ClipConverter or something. The quality won't be as high as the original source prior to being uploaded to YouTube, but it's probably the best you'll ever get outside of working at Atlus.
xxczx
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i will never be able to understand how artists can make something like that in such a short amount of time while I'm over here drawing stick men
Cipher Cat
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super-famicom
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I've added a couple of vital updates to a previous post explaining that the Protagonist and his friends are not in a juvenile detention center, but a normal (most likely private) high school.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=150867572&postcount=4714
Also, here's some more fanart:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=150867572&postcount=4714
Also, here's some more fanart:
They draw a lot more than you do.
Thanks. This is pretty much what I thought, but this puts a lot more weight behind it. This Persona is really shaping up to be something wonderful.
Laughing Banana
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I see no reason why.
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