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The Order: 1886 Gets New Direct-Feed Screenshots From Obama

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MormaPope

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Has anyone ever responded well to, "Don't get defensive," in the history of human language? Should add a "babe" or "chief" at the end of it.

Probably.

I regret using the word though, because no one responded to either of my posts that were addressing something :(

EDIT: One of them was addressed, but it was "look at this post".
 
There are a couple types linearity when it comes to design. One is level design linearity, how open or closed levels are, what the player can do to progress. The other is combat or gameplay linearity, what the player can do mechanically, what tools are available, how the game adapts or challenges the player.

Level design for third person shooters has rarely been significant in the past, what's way more important is how open and allowing combat is.
And I have never understood why that should be the metric used to review the video games. I prefer the kotaku reviewing system, since game reviews almost always boil down to a cult of personality trying to enforce why THEY think the game deserves a certain score, and there is nothing objective about it.
 

Coda

Member
Any ideas on how to get the game early? I figure Walmart is known to break street dates but I'm assuming they have something in place now so when you get to the register you can't purchase it? I don't need it now but man this day off is boring and this game would be killer to have at the moment.

I guess mom and pop shops are the only other option?
 

Verendus

Banned
I think personally the best is "Calm down buddy, don't get defensive."
Going to keep this in mind for future use on here. Start by being excessively condescending, and when the other is drawn in, I'll pull out the old "calm down man/dude/baby girl, no need to get so defensive" move.

It's perfect; I just levelled up.

It's good that most of them seem to be enjoying the show.

we all have our copies in hand already except you.
Yeah? Well, I'm playing a real game right now. It's called Assassin's Creed: Unity, and it's French. Enjoy your mooovy.
 

BiGBoSSMk23

A company being excited for their new game is a huge slap in the face to all the fans that liked their old games.
There are a couple types linearity when it comes to design. One is level design linearity, how open or closed levels are, what the player can do to progress. The other is combat or gameplay linearity, what the player can do mechanically, what tools are available, how the game adapts or challenges the player.

Level design for third person shooters has rarely been significant in the past, what's way more important is how open and allowing combat is.

Well it's not Virtua Cop I'll tell you that. Lol

Rest assured there's a lot of room for mobility and strategy in the shootouts, it's just not unrealistic or grand, it's very grounded.
 

shmoglish

Member
Which games do you play to fill the gap, till the order releases


I'm a few hours in, and I've gotta say this game is a playable movie. That's precisely what RAD intended this to be.

It's almost like a point-and-click adventure game built on TPS elements. The levels themselves aren't levels, they're "sets" where the scenes you control play out.

Finding easter eggs and collectibles don't feel like such in the traditional sense, because the game is so strictly linear and paced and scripted.

There's very little in the way of casual/spontaneous exploration and findings.

If you're okay with sitting along, doing some solid shooting, taking in the artsyle, getting some damn good dialogue fed in, then you will like it. If this restricted form of storytelling videogame offends your free spirited nature, or your idea of game design or...*cough* next-gen game design, then steer clear.

But, it's clear RAD's poured their souls into this. It really does show. It just feels like an old times videogame that happens to be the best looking/most stylish thing you've ever seen.

If you're looking for a bullet point to add to your argument of whether or not games are an art form, this is it. The grace of this game's presentation puts most films (and games) to shame. Ironically, with its old fashioned take on interactivity and player agency, it vindicates the medium in its own way.

I'm sure anyone who's foreign to videogames will take a look at this and say, "well, that's how it's done."

Great start by RAD. They're showing great potential.

Gripes ahead:

It feels a little fluffy on back story so far. It's asking me to take a lot of things at face value as far as the presence of lycans goes, and the history of the Order, etc. It still doesn't feel solidified. For something that strives to be as grounded in reality as possible, the conflict doesn't feel that tangible due to the lack of proper exposition thus far.

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(sounds good)
 

Trace

Banned
Going to keep this in mind for future use on here. Start by being excessively condescending, and when the other is drawn in, I'll pull out the old "calm down man/dude/baby girl, no need to get so defensive" move.

It's perfect; I just levelled up.

Ohh god what have I done. I'm sorry GAF.
 

Coda

Member
I'm a few hours in, and I've gotta say this game is a playable movie. That's precisely what RAD intended this to be.

It's almost like a point-and-click adventure game built on TPS elements. The levels themselves aren't levels, they're "sets" where the scenes you control play out.

Finding easter eggs and collectibles don't feel like such in the traditional sense, because the game is so strictly linear and paced and scripted.

There's very little in the way of casual/spontaneous exploration and findings.

If you're okay with sitting along, doing some solid shooting, taking in the artsyle, getting some damn good dialogue fed in, then you will like it. If this restricted form of storytelling videogame offends your free spirited nature, or your idea of game design or...*cough* next-gen game design, then steer clear.

But, it's clear RAD's poured their souls into this. It really does show. It just feels like an old times videogame that happens to be the best looking/most stylish thing you've ever seen.

If you're looking for a bullet point to add to your argument of whether or not games are an art form, this is it. The grace of this game's presentation puts most films (and games) to shame. Ironically, with its old fashioned take on interactivity and player agency, it vindicates the medium in its own way.

I'm sure anyone who's foreign to videogames will take a look at this and say, "well, that's how it's done."

Great start by RAD. They're showing great potential.

Gripes ahead:

It feels a little fluffy on back story so far. It's asking me to take a lot of things at face value as far as the presence of lycans goes, and the history of the Order, etc. It still doesn't feel solidified. For something that strives to be as grounded in reality as possible, the conflict doesn't feel that tangible due to the lack of proper exposition thus far.

These impressions give me a solid idea of what to expect. Honestly I think it's obvious from the get go that this game was gonna be quite linear and by the books but I feel like sometimes that's exactly the experience I want. Sometimes I'm too tired and lazy after work to play a game that challenges me mentally and forces me to figure out what I'm doing.

Sometimes you just want to kick back and shotgun blast people's legs off. I'm excited for this for sure. I definitely recommend buying or renting the physical release of the game though so you can sell it or trade it in afterwards because it definitely seems like a one or two playthrough type of game.
 
I have had enough of these shitty open world games with bad design choices. Ofcourse reviews will bash this game because its not "next gen" enough, but they can't even define what "next gen gameplay" is. I will take a focused game like the order over a open world game ala watch dogs or other badly designed open world games. Give me a focused experience.

I'll take most games over a badly designed one too
 

Azdoune

Member
I watched a russian stream yesterday, it was gorgeous. By the way, stream quality was way better than Youtube video.
Still 6 days until launch.
 
They should just open the floodgates, so many have it already, the longer they wait, the more people will be spoiled. Just do it RAD. Release it now. Paleeeeease?
 

RoboPlato

I'd be in the dick
Going to keep this in mind for future use on here. Start by being excessively condescending, and when the other is drawn in, I'll pull out the old "calm down man/dude/baby girl, no need to get so defensive" move.

It's perfect; I just levelled up.

Oh god, first he gets an army now he's leveled up in trolling. When will this madness end?
 

benny_a

extra source of jiggaflops
They should just open the floodgates, so many have it already, the longer they wait, the more people will be spoiled. Just do it RAD. Release it now. Paleeeeease?
Outside RAD's control. It's on Sony.

Anyone that wants this digital is screwed anyway because there is no way Sony can manage to get it out to people early using their digital store.
 

NateDrake

Member
Attention to detail is usually something you'll find in very good games and the attention to detail in this gif is fantastic.

FWIW: most environmental objects are not interactive. Bottles, some pans, and maybe a glass case will break when shot, but there are things that won't show bullet-holes when shot or objects that don't move when you walk into them. So I wouldn't focus on that particular gif and a wobbling bottle.
 
How is an "interactive movie" at all different from a Gears of War single player campaign? Or something like Spec Ops: The Line, or even 50 Cent: Blood on the Sand. All are tightly linear games. The only difference is that you get to play the cutscenes. If people want to mark The Order down for linearity then they'd better have the same opinion of those other games.

'interactive movie', like 'linear', is one of those descriptors that's only ever dragged out when a reviewer simply doesn't like a game. if a reviewer actually likes an 'interactive movie', or 'linear' type game, he simply will not refer to it as such...

thus has it ever been :) ...
 
It usually always is from people that get it early. Just saying. I hope the posatives are really warranted. I want a true next gen classic. This gen hasn't delivered for me personally yet

Yep not to downplay the impressions in here but look at almost every single OT, the early conclusions are almost always positive. It sometimes takes a while for things to become a bit more clear
 

benny_a

extra source of jiggaflops
It usually always is from people that get it early. Just saying. I hope the posatives are really warranted. I want a true next gen classic. This gen hasn't delivered for me personally yet
The early impressions for AssCreed Unity were bad.

The people that shared those impressions weren't being well received though, because people are hype.
 

thuway

Member
They should just open the floodgates, so many have it already, the longer they wait, the more people will be spoiled. Just do it RAD. Release it now. Paleeeeease?

If the reviewers just got their copies, they would face a ton of shit if they decided to release it at once.
 
They should just open the floodgates, so many have it already, the longer they wait, the more people will be spoiled. Just do it RAD. Release it now. Paleeeeease?

This game should have released yesterday. Every major store has them in already, have another 5 days to go to avoid spoilers. Maybe they will do like a Call of Duty MW 2 and release it a few days early
 

NateDrake

Member
This game should have released yesterday. Every major store has them in already, have another 5 days to go to avoid spoilers. Maybe they will do like a Call of Duty MW 2 and release it a few days early

Sony isn't going to change the worldwide embargo lift when most reviewers only got the game yesterday. Outlets are planning coverage for Thursday morning. No sooner.
 

viveks86

Member
Anyone that wants this digital is screwed anyway because there is no way Sony can manage to get it out to people early using their digital store.

Exactly. If there is one thing Grace Chen does well, it's making sure people don't get their shit early
 
I would never actually expect them to or think they would. I'm just dreaming out loud. I want it so bad. All these impressions and gifs and videos are giving me the worst case of blue balls.
 

Ishan

Junior Member
It usually always is from people that get it early. Just saying. I hope the posatives are really warranted. I want a true next gen classic. This gen hasn't delivered for me personally yet

Yep not to downplay the impressions in here but look at almost every single OT, the early conclusions are almost always positive. It sometimes takes a while for things to become a bit more clear

yup been on gaf long enough to notice this. early adoptors normally are very positive unless the game is bad. Positive gaf hype for leaked copies means the game is decent to great. All it does is show its def not bad.
 
Luckily I bought a few games to play while I wait for this.

Evil Within is dope.

Yep Im trying to push through Wolfenstein before Friday. Assuming the game lives up to the impressions so far, Ill be on a streak with good to great games with Evil Within-Wolfenstein-The Order and then Bloodborne.

Schoolwork, meet your match.
 
Going to keep this in mind for future use on here. Start by being excessively condescending, and when the other is drawn in, I'll pull out the old "calm down man/dude/baby girl, no need to get so defensive" move.

It's perfect; I just levelled up.
This really is exactly what people do. Wow. Good to keep in mind so I don't get baited -_-
Yep not to downplay the impressions in here but look at almost every single OT, the early conclusions are almost always positive. It sometimes takes a while for things to become a bit more clear
I now always like to remind people of the Wolfenstein OT since it didn't follow that trend. Hype, one dude had negative impressions, dehype, review scores posted, hype returned.
 
Sony isn't going to change the worldwide embargo lift when most reviewers only got the game yesterday. Outlets are planning coverage for Thursday morning. No sooner.

Release it Thursday morninggggg, I'm just bitter because the stores I usually get stuff early from don't have it in :-(
 

Marvel

could never
Yep Im trying to push through Wolfenstein before Friday. Assuming the game lives up to the impressions so far, Ill be on a streak with good to great games with Evil Within-Wolfenstein-The Order and then Bloodborne.

Schoolwork, meet your match.

Hey! I bought Wolfenstein also, seems like we're doing the exact same thing game wise.
 
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