So your premise is all those people who thought thought there was no way Destiny would flop were proven wrong because of your personal opinion.
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What will be February's biggest flop?
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modern video game opinions in a nutshell
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StrongBlackVine
Banned
Multiplat vs exclusive is not really a fair fight. It doesn't have to sell as much to make more money though.
Best games of the month so far are Besiege and Darkest Dungeon, both early access games, one a kickstarted game.
Goes to show focused, small scale development continues to produce exceptional games while big studios release middling stuff that costs 50x the budget to make.
However Monster Hunter 4 is absolutely excellent so far, so what do I know.
Goes to show focused, small scale development continues to produce exceptional games while big studios release middling stuff that costs 50x the budget to make.
However Monster Hunter 4 is absolutely excellent so far, so what do I know.
Wow the fanboys are out in force. I might seem like a sad little person to you, but thats only because people like you tend to project their sad pathetic existence onto others.
ChasingComets
Member
Think most people already said it, RE:R2 is showing signs of being a disaster.
I would've otherwise have had The Order pegged, but it's not exactly a flop; graphics aside it's just going to be overwhelmingly average.
I would've otherwise have had The Order pegged, but it's not exactly a flop; graphics aside it's just going to be overwhelmingly average.
Morning Star
Member
Shit. I didn't even know a new Kirby game was being released.
PeskyToaster
Member
lol, shooters are the best genre man
tearsintherain
Member
Sales - Evolve
Critically - Order 1886
1886 will do great, lot of bored Destiny players looking for something to play and Evolve was a bit of the same thing (multiplayer FPS) whereas 1886 is very different.
I doubt Kirby will do even close to Toad or Bayo 2 numbers, everyone who owns a Wii U is going to be too busy waiting for or playing majora on their new 3DS'.
I think Battlefield Hardline in March is also going to hit it out of the park sales wise and get panned critically, its coming out at a perfect time with little to compete against.
Critically - Order 1886
1886 will do great, lot of bored Destiny players looking for something to play and Evolve was a bit of the same thing (multiplayer FPS) whereas 1886 is very different.
I doubt Kirby will do even close to Toad or Bayo 2 numbers, everyone who owns a Wii U is going to be too busy waiting for or playing majora on their new 3DS'.
I think Battlefield Hardline in March is also going to hit it out of the park sales wise and get panned critically, its coming out at a perfect time with little to compete against.
rockman zx
Member
DOA5LR.
So which is it? Is the order getting a lot of hate or not? Thats what i meant when i said that most people are panning the game not necessarily saying it will sell poorly. But expecting some basic reading comprehension out of some of you is just waiting to be dissapointed.
boredandlazy
Member
Most people are panning the game?
MikeE21286
Member
I think The Order will be a 75-80 metacritic score.
If that is a flop then that
If that is a flop then that
I am not sure which game he's trying to play here. The blatant "stealth" troll or the confused and naive about the meaning of certain words in context - which don't magically come up in one's head.
Ask the 10 or so people on this thread nentioning all the hate the game is getting.im done playing games with you.
Fbh
Member
Yeah one more vote for Revelations 2.
I'm just not seeing much hype, and with it being episodic I can see a lot of people just waiting for the whole thing.
The Order will do fine. I'm expecting mixed review but Sony has been investing in advertising the game, plus it's one of the first high profile Ps4 exclusive in quite some time
I'm just not seeing much hype, and with it being episodic I can see a lot of people just waiting for the whole thing.
The Order will do fine. I'm expecting mixed review but Sony has been investing in advertising the game, plus it's one of the first high profile Ps4 exclusive in quite some time
boredandlazy
Member
Hah, with me? This the first time I've replied to you.
Someone's a little touchy.
Little tip for you, pay more attention to the impressions of people that have played the game rather than those who obviously haven't and probably never plan to.
Jathaine
Member
This would be my pick.
With me? This the first time I've replied to you.
Someone's a little touchy.
Little tip for you, pay more attention to the impressions of people that have played the game rather than people who obviously have an agenda.
I never made any sort of judgment on call on those people. I dont see whats so hard to understand here.
Someone claimed the game isnt going to flop because sales. I said that it seems most people saying it will flop mean that it will do so critically. They dont seem to like the game.
Result? Fanboys attack.
Thought I was dealing with adults here. Guess not.
boredandlazy
Member
Mate, you need to take a deep breath.
You said the game was getting panned by most people. I questioned how you came to that conclusion.
Anecdotally using comments in this thread from people who were probably never interested in the game to begin with isn't really a good way to back that up.
BasilZero
Member
I agree with this one. Kirby's gonna get shafted - mainly cause of type of genre this particular game is.
I think the episodic formula for Revelations 2 is gonna get panned left and right.
Nor to dismiss people buying the game as buyers ignorant and naive about the quality of the game - or to swiftly reduce logic to drought or whatever excuse resonates with the agenda being pushed when evidence of success pretty much suggest the opposite. It's like blindly denying reality - "accept my rethoric - ignore the real world".
"I think everyone is saying the game is going to suck." - WTF is that? The people who invest $60 of their hard earned money (not rhetoric on a forum) right out the gate tells you all you need to know about how isolated that negativity is and the expectations of people going in - in other words, positivity. But logic is nowhere to be found and will never be found, even if vindicated by review scores - which are still not predictable, nor is it inclusive of the masses but a select few who write about games for a living - an opinion, educated opinion in some instances, nothing more, nothing less.
Now the real question is why is he still hellbent on writing about the negativity surrounding the game, specially after a ban for blatantly trolling/hating on such game. In defense of opinions, trolling is an opinion.
Final Verdict
Member
Thanks!
I don't have PS4 now, but when I do get one in a year or so, I will pick it up if it turns out to be good as I like shooters with a good story, and it sure has caught my eye!
The Shogun
Banned
This is 100% true, and you never know, Order could end up being pretty big. I actually think critical / consumer reception to quality on this one will be very important. A lot of people I talk to are somewhat waiting to see how it plays out in terms of game quality. If it turns out to be a great game, who knows how it will perform.
I simply responded that way due to someone mentioning that massive stack of games is the number of copies pre-ordered at a location. I was simply clearing up, that this is not reflective at all as to the quantity at your average store.
schaft0620
Member
I'm so proud of February, normally we get nothing. The Order, Dragonball, Evolve this month was better than almost every month last year.
ChronotriggerJM
Member
Does anyone know how big RAD is? From the scattered threads on the board, I get the impression that it was a pretty small endeavor. I'm not sure how well the order needs to sell to be profitable.
Same with the new kirby.
Does anyone know how expensive these games were?
Same with the new kirby.
Does anyone know how expensive these games were?
Yup this, that shit is destined to die unfortunately :/.
dead souls
Member
I'd buy Kirby day one, especially for $40 ($32 with GCU at Best Buy) if it was a traditional platformer, but I couldn't stand Canvas Curse so I'm in no hurry to pick up a sequel to it.
bananafactory
Banned
Well, Evolve is on multiple platforms so I imagined it would probably beat out The Order. Or are you only speaking with regards to the PS4 sku?
StrongBlackVine
Banned
If you have been paying to most threads about The Order you know there will unfortunately be many hoping the game fails. Hopefully some salty crow will be served in a few days.
Honestly I wonder if people have this thing against games that don't try to "innovate" or some bullshit like that.
It's like, people people want diversity in gaming, they want more choice of games. Yet say a game tries being cinematic, somehow that is bad and they wish they were doing more "regular" games. Which is funny because that sort of behavior is doing exactly the opposite of what they want. They want more types of games, but will fight against any they don't like.
At least that's how I've been seeing it.
You are accusing me of being a fanboy when your the one wishing a game to fail because it's not of your liking. Instead of doing what most grown ups do when they encounter something they have no interest in and ignore it, you hope it fails.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
It may be a flop in some regards, but do we know how much the game needs to make? Since it's a "plus" version, how much does it need to recoup the costs? Is it a low budget release?
Did you guys fail reading comprehension in 3rd grade? That's got to be it.
wolfhowwl
Banned
It's a game he doesn't like, that's how.
Hexa
Member
derExperte
Member
I just hope it's not Evolve because that's a cool game.
Triggerhappytel
Member
In terms of sales, I think Evolve will do reasonably well but its performance will disappoint Take Two. I imagine they'll be expecting 4+ million sales and it'll probably come in around half that. I bet it's had a pretty big marketing budget too, and probably won't hold a very large community after the first six or eight weeks.
In terms of literal sales, I don't think most of us even realised there was a new Kirby game out soon, so that will no doubt crash and burn.
As for The Order, anecdotes seem to suggest it's enjoying strong pre-orders. I think it will do well for a new IP (3-4 million) and the average review score will be between high 70s to low 80s.
In terms of literal sales, I don't think most of us even realised there was a new Kirby game out soon, so that will no doubt crash and burn.
As for The Order, anecdotes seem to suggest it's enjoying strong pre-orders. I think it will do well for a new IP (3-4 million) and the average review score will be between high 70s to low 80s.
That sure did get all the fanboys upset, worth it.
The Shogun
Banned
Sales: Evolve, which will hopefully serve as a lesson to 2K.
Critically: The Order, which will review like other mediocre Sony franchises where IGN and PlayStation Website 367 give it 8-9 while Eurogamer, Edge etc. give it 5-6. It'll sell well regardless because people are starved for first-party support and ooooo shiny bauble.
Critically: The Order, which will review like other mediocre Sony franchises where IGN and PlayStation Website 367 give it 8-9 while Eurogamer, Edge etc. give it 5-6. It'll sell well regardless because people are starved for first-party support and ooooo shiny bauble.