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The Order 1886 | Impressions Thread of not shooting the messenger.

Rurunaki

Member
Why. I don't understand. Why get banned over this. Why fight over review scores?

By the way this thread is amazing and should be studied by a behavior specialist.

Same thing I was thinking. It's like the ps4's success is going to come down to The Order being the next TLoU or something..
 

nelchaar

Member
Just finished the Lycan encounter that's been shown at E3. The visuals seem to have been upgraded; it looks incredible. The fight itself reminds me of RE4; very visceral and hard hitting. I think this game will be very divisive; I like slow burn, atmospheric games, which The Order most certainly is. Those who crave constant, in your face action will probably be disappointed, because it's just not that type of game. The real star of the show is the universe itself; the settings, the characters, the way the story is told bit by bit instead of just flooding you with information. If someone were to walk in on you playing this, at first glance they would think you were watching a movie, which is what I believe RAD was aiming for. It looks eerily lifelike at times. I'm playing on Hard, with aim assist off, and I've died about 10 times so far.

God yes. I'm itching for something atmospheric and cinematic. I know people don't usually like these kinda games but I love them.

Apparently no. But that depends on the way you play. Sounds like a 7 or 8 hours long, if you don't rush it.

Edit: If you're not a completionist.

Perfect. I have a huge backlog I'd like to get back to! Also, Bloodborne in March.
 

Gator86

Member
Sounds like there is a problem if negative comments about a game impact a person's ability to enjoy said game.

Doesn't seem entirely uncommon. The Destiny OTs were lousy with people screaming for the mods to ban anyone saying negative stuff about the game because it reduced their enjoyment.
 

NateDrake

Member
Was going to share more impressions, but the hell with it. Everyone is getting too damn crazy over this game. Some will love the game and others won't. Any minor issue someone brings up unleashes a defense force. Any positive impression unleashes another defense force.
 

farmerboy

Member
While we're waiting for the OT and review thread I'm thinking about going all Inception on your asses and making an impressions thread about this impressions thread.

It'd only be fitting.

OT, gaming as an art/industry/hobby/way of life - whatever you want to call it, has so many genres and sub-genres now, that I think there's room for whatever games devs want to make. I celebrate them all. I'm eagerly waiting for The Order and all that it offers.
 
Sounds like there is a problem if negative comments about a game impact a person's ability to enjoy said game.

Sorry, didn't mean the game itself, meant the threads. They just become a shit show eventually, no problem with criticism, but there's been some posts that are seriously terrible. No one's opinion can affect my enjoyment of a game.
 

MrHoot

Member
10 to 15 years ago action and action adventure games were priced
about 50$ with 3 to 5 hours of lenght. Where were all of you (the people so worried about lenght)? Isn't Shadow of the Colossus considered a masterpierce? Resident Evil 1, 2, 3? Ico? Tomb Raider? Silent Hill?

Again, the problem (for me) with the Order is not it's length. The problem with the order is how it decides to balance it and what to do with it.Not a fair comparisons as all of these games, at their time, while having similar length, were either very creative with their gameplay at the time (usually offering something fresh) or offered variation in their design and basically worked well with what they set out to do.

Before I might get smash'd because the thread seems to get heated. I don't even dislike the order. I'm just mostly disappointed. What could've been for a GREAT game that would've lasted in my memory for a long time was a bit let down because it TELLS you about all these great concepts and ideas (The order itself and how the knights work, the werewolves, the weapons, the characters, and that thing that happens near the end) but barely does anything creative with them either in terms of level design, pacing, synergies and interaction. It's almost like the game doesn't care that you're here.

I really wish the devs will continue to support the game because it has huge potential. But my personal opinion is that they'll need to revisit maybe part of their core design if they wish for the IP to flourish. Because once the magic of the impressive visuals and polish goes away and we're more into the new generation, they won't be able to count solely on their cinematic presentation to attract more people. It doesn't seem very future-proof

I also think that the critic of length is ridiculous though. Like you pointed out, other games were the same length and were magistral. Some of my favs like Silent Hill 2, SotC, Vanquish and Bayonetta or even TloU aren't that longer. It's just how they work with that given time
 

RoboPlato

I'd be in the dick
Just finished the Lycan encounter that's been shown at E3. The visuals seem to have been upgraded; it looks incredible. The fight itself reminds me of RE4; very visceral and hard hitting. I think this game will be very divisive; I like slow burn, atmospheric games, which The Order most certainly is. Those who crave constant, in your face action will probably be disappointed, because it's just not that type of game. The real star of the show is the universe itself; the settings, the characters, the way the story is told bit by bit instead of just flooding you with information. If someone were to walk in on you playing this, at first glance they would think you were watching a movie, which is what I believe RAD was aiming for. It looks eerily lifelike at times. I'm playing on Hard, with aim assist off, and I've died about 10 times so far.
Thanks for this post. Haven't had any lycan impressions so far and it sounds like this encounter is a lot better when it's not cut down as substantially as it was at E3.
 
Why. I don't understand. Why get banned over this. Why fight over review scores?

By the way this thread is amazing and should be studied by a behavior specialist.

The heart of the debate here is the cinematic linearity vs. gameplay divide, and the reviews, one way or another, are going to be major tent-poles for what the industry thinks.
 

arevin01

Member
Cut scenes look just as good as CGI in some scenes. You gotta give it to RAD for this technical marvel. They are clearly talented, I wouldn't be surprised if Sony Pictures seek them out.
 

Seventy70

Member
This game should have new game plus, skippable cutscenes, and fun cheats for a second playthrough. That would make the length of the game a benefit. Spend 5-6 hours on first playthrough, then go back with all of your unlocked weapons and complete it in 3 hours. Throw in a scoring mode maybe. The strength of your weapons could increase with each playthrough. That would get me to go through atleast twice. The shooting looks good, so a horde mode might work as well.
 
Not a statement but a question.

How come games like Walking Dead, Gone Home and Life is Strange get a pass on the gameplay front but a game like the Order gets absolutely abused for it.

Is it due to the presence of weapons? The lack of dialogue options? The setting? Marketing?

I'm just trying to understand. While those games do get shit on at times by people that are like, "eh this isnt a game!" It never gets it to this level.

Any ideas or theories?
 
Was going to share more impressions, but the hell with it. Everyone is getting too damn crazy over this game. Some will love the game and others won't. Any minor issue someone brings up unleashes a defense force. Any positive impression unleashes another defense force.

I would like to hear your impressions. Is PM okay with you?
 

Loudninja

Member
Was going to share more impressions, but the hell with it. Everyone is getting too damn crazy over this game. Some will love the game and others won't. Any minor issue someone brings up unleashes a defense force. Any positive impression unleashes another defense force.
Huh go ahead and post them.

No one responded like that to actual impressions.
 
Was going to share more impressions, but the hell with it. Everyone is getting too damn crazy over this game. Some will love the game and others won't. Any minor issue someone brings up unleashes a defense force. Any positive impression unleashes another defense force.

Share them dude, there are those of us who will appreciate them regardless of what they are.
 

Shpeshal Nick

aka Collingwood
Was going to share more impressions, but the hell with it. Everyone is getting too damn crazy over this game. Some will love the game and others won't. Any minor issue someone brings up unleashes a defense force. Any positive impression unleashes another defense force.

Its the fact that there are such extremes for a game no one has played that's so baffling. Once its out its more understandable.
 

Hyun Sai

Member
Why. I don't understand. Why get banned over this. Why fight over review scores?

By the way this thread is amazing and should be studied by a behavior specialist.

It's simple. People think reviews will determine the success of The Order. Those people are earning money for each game and PS4 sold (I can only hope). This is serious business, and people have died for less.
 
Huh go ahead and post them.

No one responded like that to actual impressions.

Exactly. I don't understand the reason to hold them back. It's not like giving impressions based off watching YouTube walkthroughs, which has no merit and deserves to get shit on.

If someone actually played the game and gives detailed, thought out impressions. No one is going to attack the poster, regardless if it is positive or negative.
 

Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
The Order strikes me as one of those mainstream games that will be extremely flashy, but also extremely shallow.

If you are looking forward to this kind of thing, more power to you there is nothing wrong with that. Just always seen it as mediocre. I can't imagine it on the GOTY list or really discussed outside of this week.

Yeah but it could appear on GAF GOTY! I think your sense of GAF GOTY is pretty bad. Like a month ago when you said Uncharted 2, Gaf goty 2009, doesn't have many people singing its praises anymore only to have it whoop Mass Effect 2 in a GAF poll like later that week. I think ME2 was GAF GOTY 2010. :D

I keed, I keed.
 

Ricky_R

Member
Was going to share more impressions, but the hell with it. Everyone is getting too damn crazy over this game. Some will love the game and others won't. Any minor issue someone brings up unleashes a defense force. Any positive impression unleashes another defense force.

Come on, man. Why even say that if you don't want to post impressions?

Just let them out.
 

Crossing Eden

Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
One last quick and dirty gif for the anticipation of the review thread.
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NateDrake please post your impressions.
 

mephixto

Banned
I want to buy this game and take the dust out of my PS4 but the lack of Sony marketing and media attention is not giving me good vibes.

Bloodborne has more fuzz behind it than the Order 1886 and its still a month away.
 

NateDrake

Member
The human AI on default difficulty - aka medium - has been non-threatening. I've been sitting back and pulling off headshots using pistols with ease. I've only died once so far and that was against the Lycan from the E3 demo during an insta-death QTE sequence. Hoping the challenge ramps up.
 

Loudninja

Member
I want to buy this game and take the dust out of my PS4 but the lack of Sony marketing and media attention is not giving me good vibes.

Bloodborne has more fuzz behind it than the Order 1886 and its still a month to release.
They have been advertising the hell out of this game on TV.
 
I went ahead and preordered the game. I had a lot of cash back from using Walmarts savings catcher app and taking advantage of the double Walmart bucks promo by Bluebird. I figured The Order was worth it day one for what little I would actually pay. Judging by the early impressions, I would have been fine paying entirely out of pocket.
 
Was going to share more impressions, but the hell with it. Everyone is getting too damn crazy over this game. Some will love the game and others won't. Any minor issue someone brings up unleashes a defense force. Any positive impression unleashes another defense force.
Please share your impressions! I want to hear those :D
 
I want to buy this game and take the dust out of my PS4 but the lack of Sony marketing and media attention is not giving me good vibes.

Bloodborne has more fuzz behind it than the Order 1886 and its still a month away.

This bullshit about Sony not marketing games always seems to popup. They were just pushing it last night during the NBA All Star challenge.
 

Yurikerr

This post isn't by me, it's by a guy with the same username as me.
One last quick and dirty gif for the anticipation of the review thread.
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NateDrake please post your impressions.

Man, that's damn good!

I don't remember if this question was responded, but are there only that basic rebel enemy type?
 

Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
Sony doesn't advertise things that are going to flop or have already flopped in the preorder market (like Vita) so the hardcore are like y u no advertise?

Their big games have always been well supported. Drake was holding a Subway sub if I remember correctly.

There are very finite dollars to go around and putting money behind games that have a potential really generate a return makes a lot more sense.

Do you like to watch me?

I'm in ur ceiling
 

Bunta

Fujiwara Tofu Shop
I want to buy this game and take the dust out of my PS4 but the lack of Sony marketing and media attention is not giving me good vibes.

Bloodborne has more fuzz behind it than the Order 1886 and its still a month away.
They've been marketing it a lot.
Just FYI I went to eat dinner and the thread shit itself so now there's like four of us watching. :)

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Boke1879

Member
This bullshit about Sony not marketing games always seems to popup. They were just pushing it last night during the NBA All Star challenge.

No doubt we'll see more commercials during the All Star Game tonight and Walking Dead.

That's about all they can really do at this point aside from increasing internet presence
 
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