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Bloodborne Boss Spoiler (IGN)
- Thread starter tcrunch
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As a couple of people mentioned before, the dash is only available when locked-on. That move is significantly shorter than the roll and I'm sure you're going to want to use it against fast bosses.
That's what I found to be the case against Cleric Beast. The dash is great for small enemies, but rolling seemed to be more invincible when I played along with being easier to control and allowing you to manipulate the camera better. The camera was my biggest gripe with locking on. It might have just been because Cleric Beast is huge and his arena is long and narrow, but it was much easier to do w/o locking on.
Red Liquorice
Member
Great design, pretty creepy.
Makes me think of Nito crossed with the skeleton dogs in TotG.
Makes me think of Nito crossed with the skeleton dogs in TotG.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
That's dedication!
Orochinagis
Member
I am not sure with this boss, is the same souls slow boss with max 3 melee attacks, pretty noticeable AOE before gives you a opening to hit, roll and wait for another opening. Maybe the damage was lowered because looks so Dark Souls 2 to me
Also its just me or he have the moveset of the quadruped mobs with Nito AOE?
Also the room design is nearly identical to O&S room.
Also its just me or he have the moveset of the quadruped mobs with Nito AOE?
Also the room design is nearly identical to O&S room.
SargerusBR
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Yoshichan just be careful with all the hype when you get the game. You don't want another broken thumb right?
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
This is the first time I'm honestly dedicating my life to a gameYoshichan just be careful with all the hype when you get the game. You don't want another broken thumb right?
I'm talking dead serious here - I'm not going to sleep for at least 5 days when the game is out.
Please don't be foreshadowing. That's super unhealthy.
Giriath_89
Member
Whoa. Good luck with that! I saw your list of pre-orders, but did you also order the digital version from the US store? They get it the earliest, officially at least.
I have quite a few copies of both Demon's and Dark Souls, but I'll go digital only with Bloodborne to get it at soon as possible, and I won't add physical copies to my collection, because I like watching my savings grow now.
I did however just see that the Collector's Edition Strategy Guide is up for pre-order on Webhallen (yes I'm a fellow viking Yoshi), so I'm definitely getting that now that I don't have to go through Amazon.
EDIT: By the way, I'm looking for fellow players to get up to shenanigans with. Add my PSN x_Lyze (name change when Sony?) or send me a PM, any interested persons.
There isn't seem to be any official Bloodborne thread fow now so I'll post this here:
Okay, so this Wednesday I'm going to assist to Bloodborne's press presentation in Barcelona and I've been told that the demo will be playable and there will be a big prize for whoever beats it. I've been following this game closely but I've gone through a media blackaout regarding the gameplay mechanics. I get that Bloodborne is considerably faster than DS and there's no blocking but faster dodging instead, right? Any tricks I should know in advance? Maybe a build that works fine? Any tips for that Cleric boss fight?
Okay, so this Wednesday I'm going to assist to Bloodborne's press presentation in Barcelona and I've been told that the demo will be playable and there will be a big prize for whoever beats it. I've been following this game closely but I've gone through a media blackaout regarding the gameplay mechanics. I get that Bloodborne is considerably faster than DS and there's no blocking but faster dodging instead, right? Any tricks I should know in advance? Maybe a build that works fine? Any tips for that Cleric boss fight?
Prepare to die
You only get to choose one of 4 prebuilt characters for the demo. Kirkhammer/sword is the best weapon but you know choose as you like. For Cleric Beast:
shoot it in the head.
When you are shown the control scheme on the demo, read the part about Countershot and Backstrike.
Giriath_89
Member
Well done!
Choose a "class" with the pistol. If the demo is the same as previous builds, you have choice between the dual daggers and the axe. I'd say the axe is considerably better for the boss fight.
Spoilers for much of the demo area:
Things to know when getting to the boss: when you get down to the long road, take a right to proceed. There will be a bonfire up ahead with A LOT of enemy townsfolk around. DO NOT run into them, instead take a right past a carriage where a sleeping gunsman is.
The clocktower bell will ring and the crowd at the bonfire below you will disperse. Wait for them to spread out then run past them all, all the way up to the bridge. Once at the bridge, take a left to collect some bullets behind a statue and to trigger Priest Gascoigne, then watch as he kills the werewolves. DO NOT attack them because they can almost OHK you. When they are dead, run past all enemies to the end of the bridge where the boss is.
Things to know for the boss fight: Keep your distance and be ready to roll/dash away from the long distance lunges he can do. When he's not swinging lock-on to his head and fire with your pistol from a medium distance. After a few hits he will weaken and slump to the floor, at which point you run up to him and melee attack for a big critical hit.
After a critical hit again keep your distance and use any oil urns and firebombs you have on him from a medium distance. Oil urns first. Eventually he will heal his damaged face with a red effect, at which point you can again start shooting at his head to weaken him and score another critical attack. If you run out of bullets there are at least two bodies in the boss area you can loot for more.
The clocktower bell will ring and the crowd at the bonfire below you will disperse. Wait for them to spread out then run past them all, all the way up to the bridge. Once at the bridge, take a left to collect some bullets behind a statue and to trigger Priest Gascoigne, then watch as he kills the werewolves. DO NOT attack them because they can almost OHK you. When they are dead, run past all enemies to the end of the bridge where the boss is.
Things to know for the boss fight: Keep your distance and be ready to roll/dash away from the long distance lunges he can do. When he's not swinging lock-on to his head and fire with your pistol from a medium distance. After a few hits he will weaken and slump to the floor, at which point you run up to him and melee attack for a big critical hit.
After a critical hit again keep your distance and use any oil urns and firebombs you have on him from a medium distance. Oil urns first. Eventually he will heal his damaged face with a red effect, at which point you can again start shooting at his head to weaken him and score another critical attack. If you run out of bullets there are at least two bodies in the boss area you can loot for more.
Rinse and repeat and above all keep a safe distance.
A coworker of mine took a month off for bloodborne.
Except he took february off and then the game got delayed to March.
Pound_lb003
Member
So jealous.
I just can't wait to see everyone's characters.
I hope they're quite generous with outfits. I know Dark Souls was better about this, than Demon's Souls was. took ages to get different types of armour in Demon's Souls.
LMAO!
I don't think having a bunch of giant pillars like the OS room equates to nearly identical.
SkullHydra
Member
Ah. I definitely agree with you then. Bloodborne looks like a true return to form.
bone_and_sinew
breaking down barriers in gratuitous nudity
I've been on media blackout and had this spoiled for me thanks to Google Image Search. I was looking for box art and this popped up.
Holy fuck can get the end of the month get here already
Holy fuck can get the end of the month get here already
The Xtortionist
Member
LOL! I had my two weeks booked off since before Christmas...but I will indeed be taking at least 4 hour naps in between gaming sessions, and eating and exercising as well. No point in going AFK and losing my bloodstain etc. I have decided to record my progress but not sure if it wil be let's play format or just tutorials etc.Whoa. Good luck with that! I saw your list of pre-orders, but did you also order the digital version from the US store? They get it the earliest, officially at least.
I have quite a few copies of both Demon's and Dark Souls, but I'll go digital only with Bloodborne to get it at soon as possible, and I won't add physical copies to my collection, because I like watching my savings grow now.
I did however just see that the Collector's Edition Strategy Guide is up for pre-order on Webhallen (yes I'm a fellow viking Yoshi), so I'm definitely getting that now that I don't have to go through Amazon.
EDIT: By the way, I'm looking for fellow players to get up to shenanigans with. Add my PSN x_Lyze (name change when Sony?) or send me a PM, any interested persons.
I had no idea you guys were Vikings....my mom is the president of the local Scandinavian centre here in Canada. PM sent.
pretty good advice so far....not sure of the rules, but if all you have to do is be one of the many who will complete the level to get a prize just wathching these guys play should do it:
THis is jsut some random guy I dont know,but he goes behind the boss to get his hits in....why most people allow the boss to face them all the time is beyond me, but each to thier own...I guess it is easier to lock on to the head for head shots etc.?
THis is Peeverson doing a full hour long analysis of the whole level..,forget about spoilers...what if its a cool prize??!!?!
gunslikewhoa
Member
Neither of these things happened for any of the Souls games. It's not going to start happening now. "Just another Souls game" is a positive, anyway. I'd like a hundred of them.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Lol this is amazing.
The Xtortionist
Member
Fighting Cleric Beast with pure melee is a losing battle unless you're just goddamn amazing at the game. Ripostes and firebombs (after throwing oil) are far safer.
SolidSnakex
Member
Sony just released a new commercial that features a small bit of new footage. It's of the Cleric Beast, but it appears that they've overhauled the lighting for the setting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fWVeyuHufA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fWVeyuHufA
Sony just released a new commercial that features a small bit of new footage. It's of the Cleric Beast, but it appears that they've overhauled the lighting for the setting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fWVeyuHufA
Doesn't the game have a day/night cycle? That could just be the boss fight at a different time of the day.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Yea this was shown in the first 18 minute IGN video.
DoubleTake
Member
That new armor though.
SolidSnakex
Member
I know about the TOD change during the fight, but the lighting still seems different in the new footage. This is what it looked like in IGN's First 18 Minutes footage
Emperor_Uriel
Member
All this boss hype makes me wonder if co-op will still be an extremely unbalanced way to stomp bosses in BB.
It always hurts to see a Let's Player trounce O&S on their first try with summoned phantoms. From's creations deserve more respect than that during a first playthrough.
It always hurts to see a Let's Player trounce O&S on their first try with summoned phantoms. From's creations deserve more respect than that during a first playthrough.
The Xtortionist
Member
Looks like a major, major improvement to the skybox.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Uhhhh, players don't have an obligation to die or to not include the option that From included like co-op. Beating the boss on the first try isn't "disrespectful." That makes no sense.
Not sure if I should post this here or the gamestop thread, but felt that its more relevant here because of the game title. For those that have a power up reward card and 6800 points you can get an awesome 24 x 36 poster below.
Found it via a reddit thread.
I picked it up and I'm having it shipped to me. Apologies if I should have posted elsewhere.
I'm surprised they showed this boss fight. Wish I could say why, but I'll keep it to PMs for now.
Found it via a reddit thread.
I picked it up and I'm having it shipped to me. Apologies if I should have posted elsewhere.
I'm surprised they showed this boss fight. Wish I could say why, but I'll keep it to PMs for now.
Emperor_Uriel
Member
Using summons on the first try with the intent of steamrolling the boss is, in my opinion.
Tell me seeing something like this doesn't make you a little bit sad, knowing how masterful that fight is when you're forced to struggle through it:
youtube.com/watch?v=4-8WVSNEgGw
(And yes, it's his first playthrough. The title is somewhat misleading.)
Was the new footage in the link? All I saw was the old night time Alpha setting.
DoubleTake
Member
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
I've been saving myself from looking too far, but does IGN have their press copy already? I wouldn't be surprised.
Ricerocket
Member
New armor looks awesome
Thanks! I must have blinked and missed it. Although since both were shown, now I am really interested on if they just changed the lighting in the setting or it changes based on some event.
I wasn't trying to discount your post or create a straw man. Sorry if I sounded a bit extreme, but I was responding to an exchange between Hiko and Primeau.
You mentioned Lautrec and Lucatile who are from two completely different games in two completely different timelines. It's suggested that many hundreds, if not thousands of years have passed between DS and DS2, with kingdoms rising and falling, and the "cycle" (that you seem to loathe so much) repeating itself. For many, the subtle references and ephemeral connections between the two worlds/periods are enough, and linking it all together with some grandoise plot would be unnecessary and probably feel forced. Which is exactly why you refer to that Youtube commenter as a "hack", no?
If there's a DS3 coming, you can bet that it will have its own period/region of reference, and that linking the entire story back with the first two games is probably the last thing on Miyazaki's mind (although I imagine there would be subtle links to the key lore). You say you realise that you're asking a lot of From in creating the next high fantasy tale of political intrigue; then you tell me that you're not asking for much because all they need to do is "tweak" it. I think Primeau is right to an extent: you're simply not satisfied with the story being told - which is fine, but it's also a totally subjective opinion.
Remember that there's also a balance in these things. From strives for a rich world concept, fine-tuned enemy design, and fun, addictive gameplay. Those are their strengths, so that's where they focus their effort. When people chime in with "they could learn a thing or two about storytelling from Narnia/LOTR/Zelda", it's about as helpful as the people who go on a tirade about how "From needs to improve their graphics to keep up with next gen".
Maybe one day they will decide to spend money on a much more powerful engine. Or hire George R. R. Martin to help them write something. Who knows? But you have to accept that something else is likely to give if they put pressure on those other areas. You see a lot of "it would be nice if..." in these threads, with not a lot of real thought going into the consequences. I know it's difficult because everyone has their own expert opinion and idea of where they see the Souls series going. But the people who benefit the most are those who just enjoy the games (amongst others) for what they are.
If Bloodborne ends up disappointing you because they don't wrap up the story nicely, or the ending is not satisfying because your "choices" as a player don't matter, or NG+ is the same as NG narrative-wise, then you simply have different priorities.
WhiskerFrisker
Member
I'm listening to some of the music that's available right now and it's fantastic. This game's OST will be incredible, holy crap.
JudgmentJay
Member
After every boss in my first Dark Souls 2 playthrough (at launch) I'd do some co-op. About 75% of the time people were summoning help without even attempting the boss first. That blows my mind to be honest. I can see summoning help after an attempt or two if you feel like it's too hard, but summoning help without even seeing the boss beforehand seems awfully silly to me as well.
Giriath_89
Member
Found the article where Miyazaki says there will be some mechanic that will make it easier for friends to play with each other.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/02...borne-and-dark-souls-creator-ign-first?page=3
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/02...borne-and-dark-souls-creator-ign-first?page=3
sublimit
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Rogue_Ledr
Banned
Do they always have to use some bizarre, esoteric method for cooperative play? Can't they just make a dedicated mode?