The Last One
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You're right. TGS trailer got 3.8M views, plus IGN uloaded at their channel and got more 1M views. So almost 5M actually.
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Media Create Sales: Week 12, 2015 (Mar 16 - Mar 22)
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You're right. TGS trailer got 3.8M views, plus IGN uloaded at their channel and got more 1M views. So almost 5M actually.
Damn, another PS dominated top 10 incoming.
Oh, that's perfect.
When you need to explain too much why sales are good, it's because they aren't.
DarkLordMalik
Member
Read what I posted above. Also I bet almost half of these were on PC considering the insane modding community and Steam numbers of the game.
Elder Scrolls MMO is going F2P. Is the IP not strong enough? Meanwhile FF XIV and XI are still alive and sub-based to this date
perfectchaos007
Member
famitsu said:
guys, I think the WiiU is in trouble
you might be onto something here
airmangataosenai
Member
The Playstation Youtube channel used to have a video from the original E3 trailer with a high view count, didn't it? Seems it was pulled at some point, which makes the comparison unfair. Either way, a low key demo of the game from just a few months back getting 3 million + views implies people are still excited.
Also IIRC, the PS3 system sold about the same as this the week the XIII demo dropped.
Also IIRC, the PS3 system sold about the same as this the week the XIII demo dropped.
PumpkinSpice
Banned
Yikes, this has to be end of fiscal year related. That's a really stacked release week.
FF XIV ARR is a sub-based MMO game which still hasn't gone F2P. It is still extremely popular and there is a lot of hype around the upcoming Heavensward expansion.
Compare that to Elder Scrolls MMO, which is going F2P soon and tell me which one is more popular here?
Regarding the E3 comment, a new Elder Scrolls or Fallout game will be a much bigger news than the same old FF XV with a new trailer. This is not really surprising since people have been waiting for new games in both franchises for a long time, just like they were waiting for the next mainline FF and KH in 2013, and they remained the highlights for the E3 in 2013. So don't use this silly metric to judge the popularity of the series
New Game != Already announced game
The excitement is just not the same, even if the IP is popular.
Elders Scrolls MMO is a bad games just like the orginal FF XIV was so that's why It doesn't sell or rather didn't sell and when I was talking about Elder Scrolls I was mostly thinking about Skyrim which sold over 20 million. In the end it will come down to sales numbers and I have no doubt the new Fallout or Elder Scrolls will outsell XV. Unless of course someone doesn't mess it up
.Psycho_Mantis
Banned
How much did Skyrim sell on PS360? I know its insanely popular on Steam and has been sold at ridiculously low prices due to special sales which will no doubt inflate numbers.
DarkLordMalik
Member
So Elder Scroll MMO is a bad game and it sold worse, just like FF XIII was a bad game and it sold worse. Am I right?
Skyrim received universal praise and acclaim and hence had a strong WOM. Same goes for its previous games. If a bad Elder Scrolls game is released and doesn't sell as well, do let me know. Oh wait, it has alreadu happened and the result is Elder Scroll Online which sold bad and is going F2P. So.... what are we talking about here again?
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
Is Xbox One going to even hit 100k LTD in Japan?
It is abysmal over there, and is likely going to cost the system any Japanese games regardless how well it does everywhere else. All of sudden SF5 and Bloodborne make a lot more sense financially.
It is abysmal over there, and is likely going to cost the system any Japanese games regardless how well it does everywhere else. All of sudden SF5 and Bloodborne make a lot more sense financially.
Read what I posted above. Also I bet almost half of these were on PC considering the insane modding community and Steam numbers of the game.
Elder Scrolls MMO is going F2P. Is the IP not strong enough? Meanwhile FF XIV and XI are still alive and sub-based to this date
MMO is another matter.
I don't know PC/consoles split, but this doesn't change a thing. The main Elder Scrolls series is much more stronger than main Final Fantasy series these days. Honestly we can't even start to compare.
John Bender
Banned
Crazy!
The Last One
Member
Elders Scrolls MMO is a bad games just like the orginal FF XIV was so that's why It doesn't sell or rather didn't sell and when I was talking about Elder Scrolls I was mostly thinking about Skyrim which sold over 20 million. In the end it will come down to sales numbers and I have no doubt the new Fallout or Elder Scrolls will outsell XV. Unless of course someone doesn't mess it up
But no FF ever sold 20M, and I'm pretty sure it never will anyway. The thing there is that The Elder Scrolls got really big.
The only public data about console sales is NPD on launch month. Sold 2.8 million (includes PC retail, which is very low).
FF XIII didn't even hit 2 million LTD in US.
Firstly, you're being as dismissive of my perspective as I am of yours, no need to take it so personally that I disagree with you as I don't hold it against you at all. I"m not adding points in frustration, just clarifying my position. I also have no desire to quote you if you're wrong, people make mistakes. (on a side note the best selling JRPG remaster would be one of the Pokemon ones.)
Let's take a look at your perspective to see why I'm so dismissive of it
FF XV will sell better because:
- Hype is through the roof
- The WRPG crowd will buy it because its an action RPG now
- FF series isn't on the decline! FFX sold really well
Conversely I don't believe ANY of the above and:
- Hype is comparable to games that FFXV DOESN"T want to be selling like
- A change in battle system has alienated fans of the series in the past and will do so again. Action RPGS aren't inherently more popular by any means.
- Final Fantasy is on the decline. FFX was 14 years ago. 14 Years!
FF13's sequels, and the multitude of spinoffs all show the series is losing its selling power, the only thing that remains to be seen is how this decline applies to the mainline titles and I firmly believe it will be detremental. FF has essentially been in decline since FFX, with FFXIII benefitting from being multiplatformn and "hype" to act as an anomaly, but its perceived quality brought down the general enthusiasm for the series IMO.
DarkLordMalik
Member
If FFXV is as good and receives universal acclaim like Skyrim did, then it will do REALLY well. If it is released on PC and has a modding community + dedicated fanbase on Steam then it can do Skyrim numbers too. It is not that hard. Skyrim is not popular just because it has the Elder Scrolls name slapped to it. There were a lot of factors leading to its insane popularity.
Dude over 20 million for XV is crazy talk.
Are you really saying that selling near 20 million+ is not that hard?
DarkLordMalik
Member
I am just going with the flow. Over 20 million is crazy indeed
I was just joking around. I am just pointing out that a lot of factors contributed to these figures and not just the fact that it was called "Elder Scrolls"
sturgboski
Member
Goodness. What a week. Poor Disgaea 5...I dont think it has much of a chance against Bloodborne but I hope it has some legs. Vita looks crazy next week (if/when they bring over Sword Art Online to the west, the translation *better* be better than last time).
It's too japanese to even hit half of Skyrim's numbers.
Its also the last week the PS4 gets much of anything until the holidays.
The only jRPG of recent times that was also huge in scope that received universal praise was Xenoblade. And even that sold badly.
Final Fantasy XV doesn't sell 20 million even if receive the best reviews of the history of games.
DarkLordMalik
Member
It won't do it, and it is similarly crazy to expect the next Elder Scrolls game to repeat the popularity of Skyrim. Lightning doesn't strike the bottle twice. Just saying
No game can reach the number of Skyrim. Especially not when it is exclusive to a single platform.
Pennywise83
Banned
"Sonydomination" brought a lot of interesting debates over here, e.g. YouTube counts, FF selling over 20m ww.
KillerMan91
Member
I don't know why Skyrim sales matter at all here? Even if FFXV would pull over 10 million and reclaim the title of best selling FF that would be peanuts compared to sales of Skyrim. In 90s that would have been enough to be at the top of RPGs. Landscape changed during last gen when former PC exclusive developers started to make console versions of their games and technology evolved enough for open world RPGs to shine. Those Skyrim sales are probably part of the reason for open world direction of XV too.
That's right Bethesda did many thing right with that game and while Skyrim didn't sell that well thanks to the Elder Scrolls name the next one will definitely will. Just like XIII shipped better than it should thanks to FF name. The strength of the brand is not constant it changes and right now FF is not as strong as it was back in Squaresoft days.
It won't do it, and it is similarly crazy to expect the next Elder Scrolls game to repeat the popularity of Skyrim. Lighting doesn't strike the bottle twice. Just saying
I don't think it was a lighting but a excellent job building the series reputation over the years.
Maybe Elder Scrolls VI will not sell 20 million, but is much more a guarantee success than Final Fantasy XV.
great charts
ps2 is back ?
Far away from it...
if you mean in the form of the psp and then 3ds, then yes.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Lets point out the number of things worng with this post:
- FFXV will sell tons since hype is through the roof - thats your perception and its hard to see how such hype can translate into sales quantitatively.
- WRPG will buy now its a ARPG......possible but there are also factors that will put of wrpg fans
- Hype is comparable to games like P5 - countless of people have already told you how useless your metric is (LBP3 has 4 million + views similar to Halo 5....oh no) and again the Internet/your friends is not the full picture by any means.
- Change in battle system - this is just plain wrong. FF12 was not an ARPG. There may be fans of turn based combat put off but ARPG fans could be attracted.
- FF is declining:
FF9 - 5.3 million sold
FF10 - 6.6 million sold (not incl HD)
FF12 - 5.2 million shipped
FF13 - 6.6 million shipped (7 million with PC version most likely)
No.
FF13 spin offs sold badly because FF13 had a bad reputation.
Once again sounds like you don't know what you are talking about.
Good PS4 numbers! And what a bomba Mario vs DK has been
FF XV won't reach 1.5 million in Japan and won't reach Oblivion WW numbers (yeah, Oblivion... comparing it to Skyrym bwahaha omg!)
Still surprised about not having a RE:R 2 3DS version. It'll be interesting to see the Vita vesion numbers.
Next week charts are going to be a total PlayStation dominance (excluding maybe TQ)
FF XV won't reach 1.5 million in Japan and won't reach Oblivion WW numbers (yeah, Oblivion... comparing it to Skyrym bwahaha omg!)
Still surprised about not having a RE:R 2 3DS version. It'll be interesting to see the Vita vesion numbers.
Next week charts are going to be a total PlayStation dominance (excluding maybe T
Q)i thought final fantasy xv was a final fantasy xiii spin off.
Holy shit, best post in this thread hahahaha
where did you get this rumor?
Hexa
Member
I don't get it.
This would be funny if it was ironically correct.
Using that same reason, FFXIII is also a FNC spinoff.
DarkLordMalik
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Moor-Angol
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Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Before they realised the rep FF13 has. Noctis deserved better than that.
xv is the game formerly known as versus xiii
This connected with Mantis' 'special' definition for a spin-off (just like Xillia 2 ehhh?) makes the post bloody perfect.
Fucking bravo Anihawk, seriously.
Good PS4 numbers! And what a bomba Mario vs DK has been
FF XV won't reach 1.5 million in Japan and won't reach Oblivion WW numbers (yeah, Oblivion... comparing it to Skyrym bwahaha omg!)
Still surprised about not having a RE:R 2 3DS version. It'll be interesting to see the Vita vesion numbers.
Next week charts are going to be a total PlayStation dominance (excluding maybe T
Wtf, how did you come to the conclusion that FFXV won't sell 1.5m in Japan? Do you base it on type-0 sales?
DarkLordMalik
Member
He is basing this on the PS4 hardware sales.