Futurevoid
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Nope. I need to get my NG+ run done in Bloodborne and then I desperately want to play Axiom Verge. Dark Souls II is on deck after that.
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The_Darkest_Red
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I hear ya. I can't wait to play Axiom Verge, just need to wrap up Bloodborne first.
Shane Ray it is. I'm not sure I've seen him projected out of the top 10 in any mocks. He's available at 13 so it's a value and a need.
Did you get Xenoblade Chronicles 3d so you can use the shulk amiibo?
Was a little disappointed in NG+ for Bloodborne...went through Father G to end of nightmare of mensis in one sitting and wasted a fair amount of time trying to get Eileen to spawn, wanted her rune, wanted the living string for chalices more though. Wasn't really anything different other than more difficult enemies.
Futurevoid
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The 2015 NFL-GAF Mock Draft is now open for business.
1. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Jameis Winston, QB, Florida State.
Yes, there are some maturity questions with Jameis Winston and he is (probably) a rapist shit. But the simple fact of the matter is that the Bucs are absolutely desperate for a franchise QB and Winston seems to be the guy Licht and Lovie like most. Winston has a solid arm and reportedly has a football IQ that is off the charts, and was very impressive at both the combine and FSU's pro day.
He has every chance to become a great QB in this league. But the Bucs are taking a risk here by going with a guy with his baggage. However, when you need a QB as badly as the Bucs do, that baggage seems a lot more manageable.
2. Tennessee Titans - Leonard Williams, DT, USC
The Titans are confident that their young offense with Mettenberger at the helm will continue to grow with another year in the system and so will pass on the consensus second-best QB in the draft and select the best defensive player in the draft in Williams. The Titans' defense desperately needs a shake up and Williams will be a disruptive force along the defensive line which should help to improve the rest of the unit.
3. Jacksonville Jaguars - Dante Fowler Jr, OLB/DE, Florida
I'm saying Dante Fowler for the Jags. A lot of hub-bub about that pick for them and they continue to need to address pass rush on their line. They've got their QB in Bortles. You could argue he needs weapons so a Cooper or White could go here but a premium pass rusher at #3 makes more sense for me.
4. Oakland Raiders - Amari Cooper, WR, Alabama
Outstanding work ethic with extremely polished route running skills for a college WR. Has the ability to make people miss after the catch. Has the ability to line up all over the field (Also been a knock on him because of Lame Kiffin's ability to get productively out of WRs). He had three years of productively in Alabama and should be able to step in and produce at a high level as a rookie.
5. Washington Redskins - Vic Beasley, OLB, Clemson
Mariotta to DC for the lulz (and so Gruden can help ruin another young QB) but the real pick should probably be Vic Beasley to give the Skins a potentially elite edge rusher to pair with Ryan Kerrigan and replace the departed Brian Orakpo. It's not a need pick but taking someone at a position of need (CB, WR) at this point would probably be a reach with the 5th pick.
6. New York Jets - Marcus Mariota, QB, Oregon
The Jets select Marcus Mariota. The Jets have had a productive off-season thus far, making moves to shore up weaknesses in the secondary by bringing back Revis and Cromartie and their receiver core with their pick-up of Brandon Marshall. Their one glaring weakness remains the QB position. Geno Smith has proven that he cannot reach a level of maintainable consistency, an issue Chan Gailey is unlikely to be able to rectify. Ryan Fitzpatrick, another off-season signing for the Jets, is not a long term solution but will hopefully be able to take reps while Mariota adjusts to life at the professional level. (Shadyspace)
7. Chicago Bears - Kevin White, WR, West Virginia
With the 7th pick in the 2015 NFL Draft the Bears select WR Kevin White. Bears make the right choice by drafting BPA and not for need by reaching for Shane Ray, Dupree or Shelton. However, once again the Bears miss out by one pick yet again after Aaron Donald was picked right before them last year. Bears would have loved Mariota to sit behind Jay Cutler until Bears fans call for his head (so only a few games). White has the ability and talent to be a true #1 WR with elite speed to compliment Jeffrey after the Bears created a need trading Marshall. Bears have met with most of the first round WRs as well so I see this as a realistic choice.(minx88)
8. Atlanta Falcons - Alvin "Bud" Dupree, DE Kentucky
As a Falcons fan our immediate need is a pass rusher. I don't know much about college players but from what I've been hearing and based on who's left, I would guess we would pick either Ray or Dupree whichever one is the better rusher.
9. New York Giants - Danny Shelton, DT/NT Washington
Offensive line is a need and Brandon Sherff is who *I* want and the possibility of a tackle like La'El Collins or Andrus Peat were discussed but if Shelton is there at 9, I think Jerry Reese pounces. The Giants haven't had the ability to defend the run consistently since perhaps 2010. They hit big with Big Hank from Ohio who came on big time last year but next to him is an aging Cullen Jenkins, a second year player in Bromley who could develop and little else. They signed Kenrick Ellis to be a run stuffer but if you have the opportunity to bring in Shelton who has that high ceiling as both a run stuffer and possibly a pass rusher with development, you take it. Especially considering that Spags will constantly be rotating guys in and out of the line and showing different looks/stunts.
10. St. Louis Rams - Brandon Scherff, OT, Iowa
I haven't followed the draft at all this year, but I can say for the Rams, they will take that top OL if he is still available. After that, all else being equal, they would take a corner since Cooper and White are gone
11. Minnesota Vikings - DeVante Parker, WR, Louisville
Bridgewater needs weapons and Parker is a familiar face that he can work with to add some much needed offense to Minnesota that may be in danger of losing AP at some point.
12. Cleveland Browns - Malcom Brown, DT, Texas
Alright jerks,
With the 12th pick the Browns of Cleve take Malcom Brown.
Versatile, talented, and fills a desperate need for the Browns. Helps stop the run game, and hopfully gives the Browns a dominant force along the defensive line. Plus the dudes last name is Brown.
13. New Orleans Saints - Shane Ray, OLB/DE, MIssouri
Im thinking a LB/DE.
they already have SJB who is a project.
Marcus is good but I'm pretty sure they will work on the front 7.
Shane Ray it is. I'm not sure I've seen him projected out of the top 10 in any mocks. He's available at 13 so it's a value and a need.
14. Miami Dolphins - Darkest Red, HiMyNameIsChris, Bread - ON THE CLOCK
15. San Francisco 49ers - bigosc2k, Doomsayer
16. Houston Texans - MechDX
17. San Diego Chargers -
18. Kansas City Chiefs -
19. Cleveland Browns (from Buffalo) - BlackGhost, TheBatman, Confrontation
20. Philadelphia Eagles - Gutshot, JABEE, Yankeehater
21. Cincinnati Bengals -
22. Pittsburgh Steelers - DeaconKnowledge
23. Detroit Lions - NihonTiger90, Kas
24. Arizona Cardinals - Squall ASF
25. Carolina Panthers - Grover Cleveland
26. Baltimore Ravens - Blarry
27. Dallas Cowboys - Farooq, cashman
28. Denver Broncos - Godslay, MetalFearSolid
29. Indianapolis Colts - Spinluck
30. Green Bay Packers - Elfforkusu
31. New Orleans Saints (from Seattle) -
32. New England Patriots - Dutch, Gata, Case
Rules:
1. You and your group should come to a consensus on who you genuinely think your team would take. Not who you want.
2. No trades.
3. Each person/group has a 4 hour limit to make their pick. If the pick is not in within that 4 hour time limit, then the remaining NFL-GAF members will make a consensus pick. If no consensus is made, I will make the pick as the person running the draft.
4. Each pick should be accompanied with a short synopsis of why the pick was made. Don't write a book. Just tell me why.
5. Your pick can be PM'd to me directly and I will add it. That can be done before your on the clock. If you don't think you'll be here. You can send me your top three choices as your time draws near. You don't have to post it in the thread if you're going to be away.
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The Miami Dolphins are on the clock. Team Fins have until 1:10PM.
1. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Jameis Winston, QB, Florida State.
Yes, there are some maturity questions with Jameis Winston and he is (probably) a rapist shit. But the simple fact of the matter is that the Bucs are absolutely desperate for a franchise QB and Winston seems to be the guy Licht and Lovie like most. Winston has a solid arm and reportedly has a football IQ that is off the charts, and was very impressive at both the combine and FSU's pro day.
He has every chance to become a great QB in this league. But the Bucs are taking a risk here by going with a guy with his baggage. However, when you need a QB as badly as the Bucs do, that baggage seems a lot more manageable.
2. Tennessee Titans - Leonard Williams, DT, USC
The Titans are confident that their young offense with Mettenberger at the helm will continue to grow with another year in the system and so will pass on the consensus second-best QB in the draft and select the best defensive player in the draft in Williams. The Titans' defense desperately needs a shake up and Williams will be a disruptive force along the defensive line which should help to improve the rest of the unit.
3. Jacksonville Jaguars - Dante Fowler Jr, OLB/DE, Florida
I'm saying Dante Fowler for the Jags. A lot of hub-bub about that pick for them and they continue to need to address pass rush on their line. They've got their QB in Bortles. You could argue he needs weapons so a Cooper or White could go here but a premium pass rusher at #3 makes more sense for me.
4. Oakland Raiders - Amari Cooper, WR, Alabama
Outstanding work ethic with extremely polished route running skills for a college WR. Has the ability to make people miss after the catch. Has the ability to line up all over the field (Also been a knock on him because of Lame Kiffin's ability to get productively out of WRs). He had three years of productively in Alabama and should be able to step in and produce at a high level as a rookie.
5. Washington Redskins - Vic Beasley, OLB, Clemson
Mariotta to DC for the lulz (and so Gruden can help ruin another young QB) but the real pick should probably be Vic Beasley to give the Skins a potentially elite edge rusher to pair with Ryan Kerrigan and replace the departed Brian Orakpo. It's not a need pick but taking someone at a position of need (CB, WR) at this point would probably be a reach with the 5th pick.
6. New York Jets - Marcus Mariota, QB, Oregon
The Jets select Marcus Mariota. The Jets have had a productive off-season thus far, making moves to shore up weaknesses in the secondary by bringing back Revis and Cromartie and their receiver core with their pick-up of Brandon Marshall. Their one glaring weakness remains the QB position. Geno Smith has proven that he cannot reach a level of maintainable consistency, an issue Chan Gailey is unlikely to be able to rectify. Ryan Fitzpatrick, another off-season signing for the Jets, is not a long term solution but will hopefully be able to take reps while Mariota adjusts to life at the professional level. (Shadyspace)
7. Chicago Bears - Kevin White, WR, West Virginia
With the 7th pick in the 2015 NFL Draft the Bears select WR Kevin White. Bears make the right choice by drafting BPA and not for need by reaching for Shane Ray, Dupree or Shelton. However, once again the Bears miss out by one pick yet again after Aaron Donald was picked right before them last year. Bears would have loved Mariota to sit behind Jay Cutler until Bears fans call for his head (so only a few games). White has the ability and talent to be a true #1 WR with elite speed to compliment Jeffrey after the Bears created a need trading Marshall. Bears have met with most of the first round WRs as well so I see this as a realistic choice.(minx88)
8. Atlanta Falcons - Alvin "Bud" Dupree, DE Kentucky
As a Falcons fan our immediate need is a pass rusher. I don't know much about college players but from what I've been hearing and based on who's left, I would guess we would pick either Ray or Dupree whichever one is the better rusher.
9. New York Giants - Danny Shelton, DT/NT Washington
Offensive line is a need and Brandon Sherff is who *I* want and the possibility of a tackle like La'El Collins or Andrus Peat were discussed but if Shelton is there at 9, I think Jerry Reese pounces. The Giants haven't had the ability to defend the run consistently since perhaps 2010. They hit big with Big Hank from Ohio who came on big time last year but next to him is an aging Cullen Jenkins, a second year player in Bromley who could develop and little else. They signed Kenrick Ellis to be a run stuffer but if you have the opportunity to bring in Shelton who has that high ceiling as both a run stuffer and possibly a pass rusher with development, you take it. Especially considering that Spags will constantly be rotating guys in and out of the line and showing different looks/stunts.
10. St. Louis Rams - Brandon Scherff, OT, Iowa
I haven't followed the draft at all this year, but I can say for the Rams, they will take that top OL if he is still available. After that, all else being equal, they would take a corner since Cooper and White are gone
11. Minnesota Vikings - DeVante Parker, WR, Louisville
Bridgewater needs weapons and Parker is a familiar face that he can work with to add some much needed offense to Minnesota that may be in danger of losing AP at some point.
12. Cleveland Browns - Malcom Brown, DT, Texas
Alright jerks,
With the 12th pick the Browns of Cleve take Malcom Brown.
Versatile, talented, and fills a desperate need for the Browns. Helps stop the run game, and hopfully gives the Browns a dominant force along the defensive line. Plus the dudes last name is Brown.
13. New Orleans Saints - Shane Ray, OLB/DE, MIssouri
Im thinking a LB/DE.
they already have SJB who is a project.
Marcus is good but I'm pretty sure they will work on the front 7.
Shane Ray it is. I'm not sure I've seen him projected out of the top 10 in any mocks. He's available at 13 so it's a value and a need.
14. Miami Dolphins - Darkest Red, HiMyNameIsChris, Bread - ON THE CLOCK
15. San Francisco 49ers - bigosc2k, Doomsayer
16. Houston Texans - MechDX
17. San Diego Chargers -
18. Kansas City Chiefs -
19. Cleveland Browns (from Buffalo) - BlackGhost, TheBatman, Confrontation
20. Philadelphia Eagles - Gutshot, JABEE, Yankeehater
21. Cincinnati Bengals -
22. Pittsburgh Steelers - DeaconKnowledge
23. Detroit Lions - NihonTiger90, Kas
24. Arizona Cardinals - Squall ASF
25. Carolina Panthers - Grover Cleveland
26. Baltimore Ravens - Blarry
27. Dallas Cowboys - Farooq, cashman
28. Denver Broncos - Godslay, MetalFearSolid
29. Indianapolis Colts - Spinluck
30. Green Bay Packers - Elfforkusu
31. New Orleans Saints (from Seattle) -
32. New England Patriots - Dutch, Gata, Case
Rules:
1. You and your group should come to a consensus on who you genuinely think your team would take. Not who you want.
2. No trades.
3. Each person/group has a 4 hour limit to make their pick. If the pick is not in within that 4 hour time limit, then the remaining NFL-GAF members will make a consensus pick. If no consensus is made, I will make the pick as the person running the draft.
4. Each pick should be accompanied with a short synopsis of why the pick was made. Don't write a book. Just tell me why.
5. Your pick can be PM'd to me directly and I will add it. That can be done before your on the clock. If you don't think you'll be here. You can send me your top three choices as your time draws near. You don't have to post it in the thread if you're going to be away.
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The Miami Dolphins are on the clock. Team Fins have until 1:10PM.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
Off to lunch, I'll throw in my two cents in a bit.
Futurevoid
Member
Nope. I haven't gotten a New 3DS yet. Once I do, I plan to.
I'm actually shocked that you didn't splurge on it, but then again I remember you wanting the smaller form factor (and I"m quite jealous of missing out on the xenoblade faceplates).
#FriendlyFriday
Confrontation
Member
K, just so that nobody misspells the greatest 1st round draft pick anymore, it's MALCOM Brown. Not Malcolm. So without the 'L'. We're not drafting the Running Back but the DT.
Alligatorjandro
Banned
Dolphins select Johan Gradkuski punter from ITT Tech
Too soon.
Dude was so good in his prime. He used to average 1-2 amazing plays a week.
God I miss when the Steelers were really good on defense.
Confrontation
Member
Ain't nobody gonna be spellin' that boy's name wrong once he wins DROY.
AbortedWalrusFetus
Member
He was really good but a lot of his stuff was flash plays and tipped pass interceptions from the Steelers amazing front seven. I never thought he was an above average tackler or anything. Type of fun to watch player.
Sadly having won superbowls is going to put him in the Hall before Dawkins and that is a travesty.
Sadly having won superbowls is going to put him in the Hall before Dawkins and that is a travesty.
Alligatorjandro
Banned
I wanted to see Gronk covered by Troy
Confrontation
Member
Student/Teacher sex threads never cease to amaze with the amount of bans that are being thrown around in them. Such a sensitive subject but they'll never learn. Keep your thoughts to yourself ffs.
I really miss the female driver threads, it's just a grey graveyard.
AbortedWalrusFetus
Member
I miss when people on GAF didn't give a fuck.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
The pick has to be Trae Waynes, right? I know a lot of people like some of the other CB's more but he seems like the consensus #1 CB so I have a hard time seeing the Dolphins pass on him. With Parker gone WR doesn't make sense at #14 so it has to be either a CB or LB. Unless chris objects I think the Dolphins take Waynes in this scenario.
Write-up assuming chris agrees:
With the top 3 WR's off the board the Dolphins address a major need by taking the first CB in the draft. With his great speed, fluid movement, and solid man to man coverage skills Waynes should be able to start out of the gate opposite Brent Grimes to help shore up Miami's thin secondary.
Write-up assuming chris agrees:
With the top 3 WR's off the board the Dolphins address a major need by taking the first CB in the draft. With his great speed, fluid movement, and solid man to man coverage skills Waynes should be able to start out of the gate opposite Brent Grimes to help shore up Miami's thin secondary.
Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
If only chris.trejo were here to settle this pick!
AbortedWalrusFetus
Member
I think TDR is right about it. I don't think the crop of secondary players is all that great or we wouldn't have seen teams scrambling to sign them in free agency. The ones that are good need development. I mean, I don't think Landon Collins is good enough to play primarily in man coverage, and that really limits him as a safety, and he's the best in the draft.
So one vote for the smartest. I agree about all the CB/Safties getting signed in free agency but I just don't see Trae Waynes or Collins dropping out of the top 10
Futurevoid
Member
It's almost as insane as the Texans taking Jadaveon Clowney over Khalil Mack with the overall first pack last year.
AbortedWalrusFetus
Member
It's not impossible for them to fall that far, but I think in the end you are probably right because they are some of the best available. But Marcus Peters? I could definitely see him falling this far.
It's almost as insane as the Texans taking Jadaveon Clowney over Khalil Mack with the overall first pack last year.
Exactly, right? Rick Smith fucked up our mock last year.
Which Collins? La'el, Landon or Jalen?
Landon
I haven't seen him mocked in the top 10, and with good reason. He sucks.
AbortedWalrusFetus
Member
He's probably the best safety in the draft and the market for good safeties is tight. I could see him going early, but I could also see him not going early, it's a tough call.
Futurevoid
Member
Agreed. He's a box safety at best. He has no business going top 10, IMO.
Guys the next Dion Jordan but with drug issues
Yeah. And for a box safety, he's a terrible tackler. He has the athleticism, so if he works hard, he'll be ok, if not, he'll bust.
This is a deep draft at many positions with not a lot of "stand out" players. I believe we will see a lot of teams moving up and down the first 3 rounds to get particular players including the first.
AbortedWalrusFetus
Member
Are you talking about my Dion Jordan that certainly is not a bust?
He's a strong, he's sucks in coverage, and free safety is where the need is.
AbortedWalrusFetus
Member
I agree, which is why I can't figure out why people keep mocking him to the Eagles.
The_Darkest_Red
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