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[ZhugeEX]

Man...the PS3 fell off a cliff really fast in the US.

Yep, PS3 never really took off in the USA, where as the PS1 had a 62% share in the USA and the PS2 ad a 64% share. The PS3 has only been able to muster up a 24% share in the USA.

The PS3 was held back due to the high launch price, not to mention that the Xbox 360 launched a year ahead and the Nintendo Wii was seen as the buy now console. That's why the PS3 never had a peak that matched PS2/PS1 sales despite the overall console install base growing significantly.

Worldwide the PS3 was able to turn it around quite well. I wouldn't say the PS3 was a failure in the US though as it managed to gain a big enough install base on the back of the PlayStation brand and games and thats led to successful PlayStation 4 sales in the country.

So, in 2014 PS4 has sold better than PS3 managed even in its best years [in the US]. Interesting.

It is also sad that PS3 sold so poorly in 2013. In that year Sony released IMO too much awesome 1st party exclusives for that system [GOW:A, TLOU, Beyond, GT6 and Puppeteer, MS had jack shit for x360 [Gears Judgement]]. But moving some of them to PS4 would not have increased PS4 sales I think. Console was sold out regardless of games.

The PS4 has exploded onto the market in the USA due to the long period since a last console launch. It's already solidified itself as the market leader this generation and that will allow it to considerably outsell the PS3 in the same time frame as the strong competition and pricing issue isn't there for the PS4 this time as it was with the PS3.

What's the prediction of USA PS4 sales in 2015? 6-7mil if the $50 pricedrop comes before holidays? 6mil without pricedrop [but with bundled games]?

I would say over 6 million makes sense.

 

[Conduit]

I see. This is in line with what I've been seeing on the Amazon hourly charts for the past few days. The Halo MCC bundle effectively replacing the AC bundle. Now it all makes sense. Thanks a lot for the info, Abdiel.

True! But slowly as it seems.

 

[Javin98]

True! But slowly as it seems.

Well, the Halo MCC bundle is hovering somewhere around #20's-#30's. So if anything, it may actually be doing better than what the AC bundle was doing at the end of March. But we have to remember that Amazon charts are not accurate for predicting sales.

 

[Sangetsu-II]

I know it's a bit early to ask RetailGaf, but how are the pre-orders on XBO MKX?

It's just weird that I keep seeing the PS4 version top on Amazon daily and monthly charts but nothing on the XBO version.

 

[Loris146]

I know it's a bit early to ask RetailGaf, but how are the pre-orders on XBO MKX?

It's just weird that I keep seeing the PS4 version top on Amazon daily and monthly charts but nothing on the XBO version.

I think it's a bug because standard xbox one version is not even listed in the best seller chart.

 

[Sangetsu-II]

I think it's a bug because standard xbox one version is not even listed in the best seller chart.

That is why I'm asking, I find it strange that it isn't even on the best sellers even though I know the audience is more PlayStation related.

 

[Conduit]

That is why I'm asking, I find it strange that it isn't even on the best sellers even though I know the audience is more PlayStation related.

Amazon.co.uk hourly chart seems OK.

 

[SuperSonic1305]

I know it's a bit early to ask RetailGaf, but how are the pre-orders on XBO MKX?

It's just weird that I keep seeing the PS4 version top on Amazon daily and monthly charts but nothing on the XBO version.

Xbox fighting games died when Sony announced SF5.

 

[Welfare]

Xbox fighting games died when Sony announced SF5.

But will be rejuvenated when KI season 3 is announced.

And thanks for the insight Abdiel.

 

[Jomjom]

But will be rejuvenated when KI season 3 is announced.

And thanks for the insight Abdiel.

KI is awesome, but the sad truth is its no SF to the fighting community.

 

[Welfare]

KI is awesome, but the sad truth is its no SF to the fighting community.

Of course not. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, maybe not even soon, but someday. Someday it will be.

It should

 

[Jomjom]

Of course not. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, maybe not even soon, but someday. Someday it will be.

It should

Yeah KI deserves it. Its just going to be really difficult with 0 appeal to the Asian countries.

 

[slavesnyder]

Fastest selling = Selling more than the others launched aligned

Best selling = Best selling in total

Best selling means LTD. Like PS3 right now. Fastest means comaprison between PS2 at the same point as PS4 is right now

Thank you, that's very kind to explain. One of these terms that can easily get mixed up.

Spoiler

Nitpicker.

 

[Dynomutt]

Yeah KI deserves it. Its just going to be really difficult with 0 appeal to the Asian continents.

If it deserves it, it will get it. Street Fighter is now a "culture". That's takes decades to establish. Only time will tell for KI.

Still waiting on Tekken. Have a feeling Sony is trying to do something with Soulcaliber. Also where is SNK....

 

[ZhugeEX]

Can anyone check the below. I'm confident that all numbers are correct however I'm unsure about PlayStation One sales after 2000.

 

[Abdiel]

Can anyone check the below. I'm confident that all numbers are correct however I'm unsure about PlayStation One sales after 2000.

Wasn't the gap after the holidays between the PS4 and XB1 600k? Shouldn't it be higher than that after the last few months?

 

[bananafactory]

Wasn't the gap after the holidays between the PS4 and XB1 600k? Shouldn't it be higher than that after the last few months?

If you read the chart those LTD sales only count up to the end of 2014, there's nothing from 2015 on there.

 

[Abdiel]

If you read the chart those LTD sales only count up to the end of 2014, there's nothing from 2015 on there.

(coughs awkwardly)

Right. Carry on.

 

[ConfusedGamer]

[3DS] 225K
[PS4] 325K
[WIU] 85K
[XB1] 257K

 

[ZhugeEX]

If you read the chart those LTD sales only count up to the end of 2014, there's nothing from 2015 on there.

Correct, just 20 years of sales from 1995-2014.

I request that no one save a copy of this image yet as this is a preliminary version which I'm sure contains a few errors. I will update this with a newer version which should fix errors with original PlayStation and Nintendo 64 numbers.

 

[Lexxism]

[PS4] 300K
[XB1] 240K
[3DS] 230K
[WIU] 88K

 

[Javin98]

Can anyone check the below. I'm confident that all numbers are correct however I'm unsure about PlayStation One sales after 2000.

I keep forgetting this, but what is the gap between the two now?

 

[Welfare]

I keep forgetting this, but what is the gap between the two now?

A little bit above 600k

 

[RexNovis]

A little bit above 600k

Nah it was 600k at the start of January. It has certainly increased since then. Can anyone remind us how much the NPD gaps in Jan and February were? I think its at least 700k now.

 

[Conduit]

Well, the Halo MCC bundle is hovering somewhere around #20's-#30's. So if anything, it may actually be doing better than what the AC bundle was doing at the end of March. But we have to remember that Amazon charts are not accurate for predicting sales.

Well, looks like AC bundle and MCC bundle are neck and neck on Amazon.com hourly chart.

C'mon, AC bundle! You can do it.

A little bit above 600k

I think now it will be around 700k.

 

[Welfare]

Nah it was 600k at the start of January. It has certainly increased since then.

Gap as of December: 500k

Gap as of January: 540k

Gap as of February: 600k

All rounded.

 

[Soultaker0220]

1. 3DS 260k
2. PS4 390K
3. WIU 85K
4. XB1 246K

 

[RexNovis]

Gap as of December: 500k

Gap as of January: 540k

Gap as of February: 600k

All rounded.

Nah man. I'm pretty sure your numbers are off. I remember it being widely accepted that the gap was 600k following the holidays. Ill go back and try to find some posts to confirm.

 

[Welfare]

Nah man. I'm pretty sure your numbers are off. I remember it being widely accepted that the gap was 600k following the holidays. Ill go back and try to find some posts to confirm.

Look at Zhuges graph. Gap is 500k after the holidays.

 

[DC1]

Maybe I'm not getting the whole picture here but wouldn't a simple solution be to...stop leaking at that point? I don't understand, NPD numbers get released eventually no? I would assume not wanting to piss off your professional place of employment takes precedence over posting on GAF?

In any case I do miss Aqua's posts.

Stating the obvious here?
Fyi, your statement comes across pretty snooty.

 

[RexNovis]

Look at Zhuges graph. Gap is 500k after the holidays.

You're right Zhuge does say 600k.

Gap is ~600k between PS4 and XB1 LTD.

That's odd I remember 600k being the number thrown around in January after December NPD was released. Oh well mea culpa

 

[Death2494]

Look at Zhuges graph. Gap is 500k after the holidays.

This comment right makes me sad. Can't complain, especially since we lost Aqua. That being said, you might be correct.

March seems to be a bloodbath.

 

[Welfare]

This comment right makes me sad. That being said, you might be correct.

Wait what?

 

[RexNovis]

Wait but Rymuth also said

680k I believe.

then stated he would PM Zhuge the details. Did we ever get confirmation on whether or not 680k was accurate?

 

[Welfare]

Wait but Rymuth also said



then stated he would PM Zhuge the details. Did we ever get confirmation on whether or not 680k was accurate?

680k wouldn't be possible. His data would have to be off for that to happen.

 

[allan-bh]

Can anyone check the below. I'm confident that all numbers are correct however I'm unsure about PlayStation One sales after 2000.

Interesting data. Thanks for share.

 

[ZhugeEX]

I keep forgetting this, but what is the gap between the two now?

Nah man. I'm pretty sure your numbers are off. I remember it being widely accepted that the gap was 600k following the holidays. Ill go back and try to find some posts to confirm.

Look at Zhuges graph. Gap is 500k after the holidays.

~500k -Gap as of Jan 3rd 2015
~540k -Gap as of Jan 31st 2015
~605k -Gap as of Feb 28th 2015

*Numbers are rounded up to nearest 5k.

Wait what?

He thinks I make stuff up.... sad really.

 

[Vena]

He thinks I make stuff up.... sad really.

Perhaps you should provide for us the graphs broken up into real and imaginary values. They seem too complex at current.

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[GnawtyDog]

Wasn't before November a gap of about 1.1M - 1.2M between PS4 and Xbox One?

 

[ZhugeEX]

Wasn't before November a gap of about 1.1M - 1.2M between PS4 and Xbox One?

It was around ~1130k* (1.13m)

*Number is rounded to nearest 10k

 

[KenPokesBarbie]

[PS4] 442k
[XB1] 332k
[3DS] 222k
[WIU] 82k

 

[allan-bh]

AC bundle refuses to die, is ahead of Halo MCC bundle on Amazon again.

 

[Welfare]

AC bundle refuses to die, is ahead of Halo MCC bundle on Amazon again.

Mother of god how much did they ship?!

 

[allan-bh]

Mother of god how much did they ship?!

Probably a lot, and it's possible that people see as a better offer than Halo MCC bundle because it's 2 games. (Technically Halo MCC is four, but is a different case)

 

[Sangetsu-II]

Mother of god how much did they ship?!

Enough to burn the series to the ground.

Spoiler

jk

 

[GnawtyDog]

It was around ~1130k* (1.13m)

*Number is rounded to nearest 10k

Thanks. So yeah the XB1 made up 600k this holiday - give or take. 500k GAP give or take after the holidays is correct.

 

[Sangetsu-II]

Interesting now even the PS4 Collector's Edition for MKX is in Amazon Best Seller charts and still no XBO version.

 

[Nightengale]

Mother of god how much did they ship?!

It would be hilarious if ACU bundles are still available by Oct/Nov.

A whole year's worth of shipment in two months. Truly treating holidays as the only months that matter.

 

[Welfare]

Is there something going on with the other versions of MKX? Amazon doesn't even list the position of the standard XB1, PS3, and 360 versions.

The XB1 Coarse Edition is #201, Premium Edition is #156, and the digital code is #303

What is happening?

 

[BlackBuzzard]

Is there something going on with the other versions of MKX? Amazon doesn't even list the position of the XB1, PS3, and 360 versions.

The digital code of the XB1 version is #303 while the PS4 version is #370

What is happening?

Most logical conclusion would be, that a bug is tracking every physical version as the PS4 version. Cause even Germany has the XB1 version at 54.