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Verge: "Everything you know about Marvel Comics is about to change"

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northead

northead

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Exclusive interview with Marvel's Editor-in-Chief Axel Alonso.

Five years in the making, it’s the single biggest thing Marvel has done with its comics characters in its 76-year history, and according to Marvel Editor-in-Chief Axel Alonso, it promises to change how it tells stories for decades to come.
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There's been a lot of talk about how this may or may not be a reboot. My understanding is this is effectively changing the fabric of that multiverse but not necessarily the characters. Is that right?

Yeah, I'd say that’s what this is. It's ultimately for the readers to decide what they're seeing. What I will say is that we don't believe our continuity or our universe is broken. We don't believe it needs to be fixed. And I think that this story will bear that out. We have a tremendous opportunity here to transform the Marvel universe in a way that makes for incredible stories down the road, for the next 10, 20 years worth of publishing. This is an instance where we're going to be bringing into the Marvel universe new characters, new regions, new concepts, and, in certain cases replacing, out of necessity, some pieces that were on the board. And it's going to make this a lively debate on the internet and beyond.
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There you go: http://www.theverge.com/2015/4/22/8467119/marvel-comics-secret-wars-axel-alonso-interview


PS_ It's my first thread being opened here, so hopefully I'm not messing up.
 
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kirblar

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And the first question is: what characters and what portions of the Marvel universe, and the Ultimate universe, as an example, survived and made it to this world. So what you have is a new world, a new Marvel universe that's comprised of these new and frequently dangerous regions populated by those characters we cherry picked to be survivors on the world. [It’s] about the dynamic on that world.
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Translation: We're spinning the X-Men off into their own universe.
 
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Gentleman Jack

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Bombasador said:
They're now all gay.. And women.. And minorities.
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Full gay.

And yeah, the Verge is just a cog in the hype machine. 'Everything will change' except the fact that they're still superhero comics telling stories and they push that reset button every several years or so per character.
 
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- J - D -

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I think there will always be some internet cynicism about these events. People that will want us to say, unequivocally, that this is or isn't a reboot, and we won't do that. I think that what you want to do is read and find out. Or wait till it's over and find out whatever people tell you. But you know, right now, I think that we don't allow internet chatter or cynicism to guide us. We use our own faith in our creators and editorial staff to guide us.
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Well to be fair, it's pretty easy to be cynical when claims like "The ____ universe will be changed forever!" is the promise that's made time and time again.
 
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Unspeakable Evil

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mcfrank said:
A couple of pull quotes would be helpful, but thats ok.
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There's been a lot of talk about how this may or may not be a reboot. My understanding is this is effectively changing the fabric of that multiverse but not necessarily the characters. Is that right?

Yeah, I'd say that’s what this is. It's ultimately for the readers to decide what they're seeing. What I will say is that we don't believe our continuity or our universe is broken. We don't believe it needs to be fixed. And I think that this story will bear that out. We have a tremendous opportunity here to transform the Marvel universe in a way that makes for incredible stories down the road, for the next 10, 20 years worth of publishing. This is an instance where we're going to be bringing into the Marvel universe new characters, new regions, new concepts, and, in certain cases replacing, out of necessity, some pieces that were on the board. And it's going to make this a lively debate on the internet and beyond.
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Duane Cunningham

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So more like: it's a new universe for a few months until it goes back, Age of Apocalypse/House of M style. When it's over, everyone goes back to normal, except Miles and Spider Gwen are now in 616. And Wolverine is alive again. And a couple other characters are dead for a year or two.
 
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Parallax

best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
Not much is changing we know for sure. The status quo seems to be the same in rage of ultron.
 
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The Smoking Bun

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Sometimes I wish these comic authors would try their hand at writing a manga style story with a beginning, middle and end. I know that Neil Gaiman has done multiple standalone graphic novels
 
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Burt

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There's been a lot of talk about how this may or may not be a reboot. My understanding is this is effectively changing the fabric of that multiverse but not necessarily the characters. Is that right?

Yeah, I'd say that’s what this is. It's ultimately for the readers to decide what they're seeing. What I will say is that we don't believe our continuity or our universe is broken. We don't believe it needs to be fixed. And I think that this story will bear that out.
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I always hate this kind of mentality.

"Hey, instead of admitting that we put out some seriously stupid shit occasionally that's terrible, doesn't work at all, and turns the foundation of future events into a trash heap, let's bend our entire universe around it and let the taint leak into everything!"

One of the reasons I'm happy that Disney pulled out the chopping block for Star Wars instead of trying to integrate every piece of the EU. If you can't say that your continuity isn't broken with absolute certainty, can't tell people "No, this is clearly how it is, not how we think it is", how can you even move forward from that?
 
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LaunchpadMcQ

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A_Gorilla said:
Please don't tell me Marvel is gonna do a New 52-esque crap too.
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I think you may want to sit down...

Marvel_NOW!_promo.jpg
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Palette Swap

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The Smoking Bun said:
Sometimes I wish these comic authors would try their hand at writing a manga style story with a beginning, middle and end. I know that Neil Gaiman has done multiple standalone graphic novels
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There's a lot of titles that eventually finished.
Even if you're talking only about big two cape books (which is a subset of comics), any good run has a beginning and an end, you needn't give a fuck about what happened before or what happens afterwards.
 
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The Smoking Bun

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animlboogy said:
Basically everything not published by Marvel or DC, then?

I don't mean to be overly patronizing, but I dunno what else to say. I see this on GAF from manga people a lot. These same creators do countless miniseries, long form series, and GNs for Image, Vertigo, etc. I can't explain why you wouldn't think these books existed except that you buy into some foolish "American comics are like THIS, manga is better because it's like THIS" narrative.
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Of course I'm familiar with Vertigo and the rest. Individual comic hero stories like TDKR and Marvel's ALIAS are pretty damn good on their own. It's just that Marvel/DC stuff feels like such a mess most of the time which has caused me to look at other avenues for my comic fix. Though there is a stable of well known DC/Marvel writers who stick to the usual superhero formula and nothing more.

The Non-Marvel/DC stuff really deserves more exposure
 
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mreddie

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No one noticed the asterisk?

* Despite the fact some books are still continuing and if All New Avengers
and Rage of Ultron
are any indication, everything will be fine.

No Mutants might be a possibly though.
 
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Buddha Beam

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Gr1mLock said:
Well it HAS been 15 minutes without a universe wide stunt at Marvel.
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Thank god. I was going through withdrawls.

I gave up on trying to catch up on everything that's happened to be ready for this event. The titles are all such a clusterfuck of confusion that go back so far. I got a subscription to Marvel Unlimited, but even that's hard to keep track of what to read next between all the rebooted titles and that app's general lack of organization.
 
U n i o n 0015

U n i o n 0015

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Corpsepyre said:
Why can't things just be simple for once? Why all these re-boots and whatnots?
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Comics are daunting to get into, with decades of backstory for each character. To expand the readership, they blow up the continuity every so often.

Of course, sales fall back to where they were previously, and they retcon everything that they changed about a character, adding more complexity to the original continuity.

...the comics cycle
 
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LaunchpadMcQ

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Corpsepyre said:
Why can't things just be simple for once? Why all these re-boots and whatnots?
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The basic issue is their leaking readers. You can go into other specific issues, like Marvel Studios vs Fox for X-Men rights, but the one that persists is a loss of readers. Resetting things to issue #1 brings in newbies that wouldn't have come on board otherwise, which to me is ridiculous because even in Batman's 700-some issue run, there were numerous great jumping-on points.

But, even if the plan isn't to renumber issues, shaking up the status quo has the same effect.
 
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Parallax

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Buddha Beam said:
Thank god. I was going through withdrawls.

I gave up on trying to catch up on everything that's happened to be ready for this event. The titles are all such a clusterfuck of confusion that go back so far. I got a subscription to Marvel Unlimited, but even that's hard to keep track of what to read next between all the rebooted titles and that app's general lack of organization.
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hickman stuff is what you need to read.
 
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