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So Metal Gear's "Quiet" figurine features squishable boobs.

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MiguelItUp

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I'm not surprised, not because of Kojima, but generally because of Japan. It's something about the culture that I feel will never be altered. I mean, there were mouse pads where the gel portion was the girl's breasts. How is that any different from this? Correct me if I'm wrong, I also think there was some anime game where a similar item was included in the Collector's Edition.
 

VulpX

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Wow, that Quiet trailer sure is something. Woman in her underwear comes to the base, better lock her up, anyways protag will kill her so it's all good. But I am sure I am missing a deep story reason to why she is almost naked and treated like a dog, maybe some hidden message in the close up shots of her ass or breats?
Of course you are, but judging by your tone you aren't interested in that in the first place. Am I wrong?
 

Mr. RHC

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Good luck trying to police fiction through indignation.

I am ashamed of my words.

I am ashamed of my deeds.

Acceptance.

Wow, that Quiet trailer sure is something. Woman in her underwear comes to the base, better lock her up, anyways protag will kill her so it's all good. But I am sure I am missing a deep story reason to why she is almost naked and treated like a dog, maybe some hidden message in the close up shots of her ass or breats?

Denial.


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Yep, when I go to war thats what i want to wear. Not kevlar, not even camouflage.

Nope, I want to wear a bikini top and torn up tights that show my thong.
 

Hagi

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Oh absolutely and Kojima knows that the best he can do is frame this ridiculous shit against a backdrop of drama and philosophy 101. It makes for a surprisingly entertaining package though when you don't take the serious stuff too seriously.

It's partly why I can't really play MGS4 as often as the others. There's not enough ridiculous shit to offset the three hour cut scenes you have to watch to get anywhere. I should really just make a save at the last area so I can just replay that stellar last boss fight ad nauseam.

awww yissss

 

Sn4ke_911

If I ever post something in Japanese which I don't understand, please BAN me.
Man the Quiet threads after people know the truth will be fun.
 
inb4 defence because it's the desert so it makes sense for her to have squishable boobs

Trashy + disgusting

In all seriousness, am I not able to look past the whole 'trashiness' perspective, and simply respect figurine engineering?

Creation of these kind of things require expertise, just as wooden carvings or plastic models.
 

Kinyou

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Wow, that Quiet trailer sure is something. Woman in her underwear comes to the base, better lock her up, anyways protag will kill her so it's all good. But I am sure I am missing a deep story reason to why she is almost naked and treated like a dog, maybe some hidden message in the close up shots of her ass or breasts?
lol, yes they're can't possibly be a reason why she's treated like a prisoner. Surely not because of something that happened previously in the game. That would be preposterous.
 
The prototype was probably designed in a 3D program like ZBrush. Then made in clay and casted in resin. And then at some point a PVC prototype made. Through some magic, a mold is created, the parts casted, assembled in most likely China, and painted and packaged.

EDIT: Soft part made from a different material than PVC of course.

Thanx.
Soft part is different material. So are there holes in the pvc part en then the softer material comes through or is the softer material attached on the pvc through heat?

It seems pretty seemless. though you can see a transition.

I know it's of topic but it's kinda interesting to me.
 

LiK

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Yep, when I go to war thats what i want to wear. Not kevlar, not even camouflage.

Nope, I want to wear a bikini top and torn up tights that show my thong.

Vulcan Raven was practically topless while wielding a chaingun in the artic air. none of it makes sense.
 

Shaanyboi

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Are you saying a "vagina bomb" can literally never be used unless they've reached some abstract 'right' from certain consumers to tell that story? What if it was in her butt? What if it was in a man's butt? Did it make sense based on the depravity of Skullface? It's sick but that doesn't mean it shouldn't exist. Not everything has to be sanitized for maximum comfort. It's meant to be fucked up and it is. Some players will react the proper way and seek vengeance on the characters in the game, others will take it up with the developers of the game (I think this is utterly loony but whatever, social media provides the vehicle...)

A story about suicidal child soldiers is something worth telling. However it shouldn't be told in a game that instead uses it for cheap shock-value in-between its jokes about silly box decals and guards who need to go poop really badly. It'd be like the next Michael Bay Transformers movie having a subplot about sexual assault in the military. And I doubt anyone critically thinking about this is viewing that and thinking "THAT SKULLFACE! I'M GONNA GET HIM FOR WHAT HE DID!" but is instead realizing that every line, every story turn, every decision made is done so by the developers. It's up to the developers to defend those decisions, not a fictional character.
 
Man the Quiet threads after people know the truth will be fun.

Will it?

I feel like no matter what the reasoning are, there'll still be enough loose ends for the story to say "it could've been done differently." And that will be all that's needed.

Especially since Quiet is optional, after all.

To me, I will just accept Quiet as part and parcel of the creative outputs of Kojima, for better or worse.
 

Kurdel

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Of course you are, but judging by your tone you aren't interested in that in the first place. Am I wrong?

I will buy this game, doesn't mean I will defend it's gross depiction of women.

Kojima can write the Boss, but then he has to put in an Eva because of pervy teenagers. As an adult, I can hope he can do more with a character, but taken at face value, this one fucking stupid (ripped pantyhose in her underwear being locked up with intent of kiling her later, pretty gross)
 

chiimisu

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I was almost going to write that I'm a woman and I have nothing against squishable boobs on a figurine. Because. You know. Boobs are squishable okay.

But I won't because most certainly someone will appear and say that I'm not real woman if I don't mind squishable boobs lol
 

marrec

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Yep, when I go to war thats what i want to wear. Not kevlar, not even camouflage.

Nope, I want to wear a bikini top and torn up tights that show my thong.

It's a comfort thing so keep your eyes up here bud.

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Why are people taking this opportunity to be like, culturally insensitive toward Japan too? Isn't it bad enough we have this monstrosity of a figurine to talk about but y'all also want to make judgements about all of Japan while you're at it?

Maybe we should just talk about the figure and Kojima and MGS as a whole. Cause as bad as y'all think Japan is we don't see Miyamoto giving Peach squishy boobs so shut it.
 
Interesting. I'm not saying that about the figure, although that's kinda funny, but I find all the angry people in this thread incredibly interesting. Why do people care so much?

I mean... it's Kojima people... He's kinda weird, but that's why we love him. Plus, it's a Japan thing. They love this kind of shit! :D
 

sensui-tomo

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Interesting. I'm not saying that about the figure, although that's kinda funny, but I find all the angry people in this thread incredibly interesting. Why do people care so much?

I mean... it's Kojima people... He's kinda weird, but that's why we love him. Plus, it's a Japan thing. They love this kind of shit! :D

Please stop this, this is like me wrongfully judging a group of people based on something stupid... oh wait that happens nowadays and its called Stereotyping.
 

Klossen

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Wow, that Quiet trailer sure is something. Woman in her underwear comes to the base, better lock her up, anyways protag will kill her so it's all good. But I am sure I am missing a deep story reason to why she is almost naked and treated like a dog, maybe some hidden message in the close up shots of her ass or breasts?

I could tell why they're treating her like that, but given by your tone, I'd wager you're more interested in waving your passive-agressive tone around rather than actually wanting an answer.
 

Sn4ke_911

If I ever post something in Japanese which I don't understand, please BAN me.
Is this a "you will feel ashamed of your words & deeds" post?

No sir since i haven't played the game yet.

Just sayin, the Quiet related threads after the truth is out will be fun, whether we "will feel ashamed of our words & deeds" or not.
 

Shaanyboi

Banned
Interesting. I'm not saying that about the figure, although that's kinda funny, but I find all the angry people in this thread incredibly interesting. Why do people care so much?

I mean... it's Kojima people... He's kinda weird, but that's why we love him. Plus, it's a Japan thing. They love this kind of shit! :D

It doesn't matter who he is. Creators need to be challenged on why they make the calls they do. And Japan, just like a lot of places in the world, likes a lot of stuff. Doesn't mean it's all cool.
 

Arkeband

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I will buy this game, doesn't mean I will defend it's gross depiction of women.

Kojima can write the Boss, but then he has to put in an Eva because of pervy teenagers. As an adult, I can hope he can do more with a character, but taken at face value, this one fucking stupid (ripped pantyhose in her underwear being locked up with intent of kiling her later, pretty gross)

Gameplay demos show her fighting alongside Snake... taking her as a prisoner temporarily (depriving her of sunlight if the photosynthesis theory is correct) isn't exactly the craziest thing in the world.

Unless you're referring to something completely different.
 
i dont understand the disgust/shock from some posters, are you not familiar with japanese pop culture? they are perverts. i don't think it detracts from metal gear at all, it's a product of its country.
I'm not surprised, not because of Kojima, but generally because of Japan. It's something about the culture that I feel will never be altered. I mean, there were mouse pads where the gel portion was the girl's breasts. How is that any different from this? Correct me if I'm wrong, I also think there was some anime game where a similar item was included in the Collector's Edition.
Interesting. I'm not saying that about the figure, although that's kinda funny, but I find all the angry people in this thread incredibly interesting. Why do people care so much?

I mean... it's Kojima people... He's kinda weird, but that's why we love him. Plus, it's a Japan thing. They love this kind of shit! :D
Get a life. Stop indicting the entire country.
 
I'd honestly feel a bit weird having this thing in my home but then again I'd say the same thing about any MGS game after the 3rd one.
 
No sir since i haven't played the game yet.

Just sayin, the Quiet related threads after the truth is out will be fun, whether we "will feel ashamed of our words & deeds" or not.

I don't know. I could be wrong. Maybe in-context the rationale will be so well thought out that even the naysayers will agree that it makes perfect sense. Or maybe it'll be so silly that even the people that believe so strongly in Kojima's storytelling abilities will concede that this is just fanservice. But the likely outcome? It'll be a wash. The people who think it's silly now before experiencing the full narrative will think the narrative context is also silly. The people who are defending it and saying "In Kojima We Trust" will think that he totally nailed it with whatever explanation he cooked up for it and assure detractors that it totally makes sense in context.
 
Vulcan Raven was practically topless while wielding a chaingun in the artic air. none of it makes sense.
Shush. That doesn't count, stupid. Neither does the BDSM floating guy, the fat guy in a bomb suit on roller skates, the gay vampire, the electric man, or the ghosts. It's a hyper-realistic game that's making an exception to sexualize a woman.
 
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