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[th4tguy]

maybe some one could capture footage of the swamp area that apparently tanks the ps4's frame rate. some one else could do the same for the xbox version and see if its the same.




how noisy is the fan compared to when bloodborne? about the same?

Same noise level for me although it got much much better when I took a small fan and pointed it toward the entertainment center holding the PS4. This helped push cooler air on one side of the ps4 while pushing the hot exhaust out the other side. I've got a fairly big space for the PS4 with open front but for some reason, the hot air just builds a pocket in my cabinet and doesn't want to leave the space where the PS4 is.

 

[Javin98]

I don't understand your expectations it runs 30fps most of the time with minor dips watch the video, the only games I've seen completely locked so far this generation is the order and forza 5 CD project done a good job with both versions

Off topic, but Metro Redux and MGS5: Ground Zeroes are both locked at 60FPS as well.

 

[CapitalismSucks DonkeyBalls]

Mgs5 confirmed cubed room.

I guarantee you that TPP will have similar technical problems but will receive a fraction of the criticism The Witcher 3 is receiving.

 

[Metfanant]

I have to question why devs take the time to implement a variable resolution on the Xbone, but when it comes to the PS4 version you get strict adherence to 1920x1080 and you get the small frame rate fluctuations...

My guess would be that the PS4 version would stay at a full 1080p for the vast majority of the time...you might not even need to drop all the way to 1600x900...maybe just a horizontal drop in res, so you only need to scale one way?...

I personally despise the "lazy dev" excuse for poorly performing games, but I just don't see why you would do one thing for one platform, but not bother with the other..it seems like they get the PS4 version at 1080p and optimize till its "close enough"

Only other scenario I can see is if there is pressure from Sony to achieve 1080p at all costs

 

[LukasTaves]

Oh well, I'll wait for a patch then. Tried start playing on xbone and the stutter made my eyes strain almost immediately.

At least sounds like an easy fix, so it shouldn't take long. Unless there's something wrong with the dynamic scalling... It makes no sense for the game to run in 900p and get to 40fps, when it could increase the resolution and get to the target framerate.

 

[Falcker]

I guarantee you that TPP will have similar technical problems but will receive a fraction of the criticism The Witcher 3 is receiving.

GZ was near flawless, why do we assume issues when so far it has been proven the opposite?

 

[Noobcraft]

Off topic, but Metro Redux and MGS5: Ground Zeroes are both locked at 60FPS as well.

Driveclub and Forza Horizon 2 both also manage a locked 30 fps. There are plenty of games this gen that run at locked framerates.

 

[dark10x]

I guarantee you that TPP will have similar technical problems but will receive a fraction of the criticism The Witcher 3 is receiving.

That's a strange thing to assume.

Ground Zeroes was rock solid. The PS4 release basically turned in a 99.99% stable 60fps. It looked excellent and ran like butter.

The gameplay footage from last year of the final game was also very smooth. A couple extra dips here and there but overall a very stable 60fps. There's no doubt in my mind that the final game will be almost perfectly locked on console (at least PS4).

 

[CapitalismSucks DonkeyBalls]

GZ was near flawless, why do we assume issues When so far it has been proven the opposite?

Compare the world size of GZ with TPP, though. I agree, GZ was nearly immaculate. It was, however, a very small area compared to what we've been told TPP will be.

 

[hemo memo]

GZ was near flawless, why do we assume issues When so far it has been proven the opposite?

Because GZ is one area, TTP is an open-world.

 

[mario_O]

What have I misunderstood?

Watch the video, the gameplay. Do you ever see the PS4 hit 20fps?

 

[Noobcraft]

Watch the video, the gameplay. Do you ever see the PS4 hit 20fps?

It literally hits 21 fps 2 seconds into the video, and the gameplay isnt anywhere close to locked at 30 (in Novigrad, the rest is pretty solid at 29-30), where it hovers ~28 fps with dips to 25.

 

[cgcg]

Oh boy...

DF mission acomplished.

Yep it's obvious that DF worded the article in way people like those get confused and misinterpret it.

People there is no 20fps cap in the ps4 version. Da lol.

Pssst..that's called cutscene not gameplay.

 

[cgcg]

It is weirdly written to be fair, and there's still the 25fps drops through Novigrad on the PS4 in gameplay which is ACU level performance.

Lol its only one drop not drops. Mission accomplished DF.

 

[Javin98]

Driveclub and Forza Horizon 2 both also manage a locked 30 fps. There are plenty of games this gen that run at locked framerates.

Yep, not sure why some people keep whining about frame rate. I don't remember many games with rock solid frame rates last gen. Suddenly, it's a big deal.

That's a strange thing to assume.

Ground Zeroes was rock solid. The PS4 release basically turned in a 99.99% stable 60fps. It looked excellent and ran like butter.

The gameplay footage from last year of the final game was also very smooth. A couple extra dips here and there but overall a very stable 60fps. There's no doubt in my mind that the final game will be almost perfectly locked on console (at least PS4).

Agreed, can't wait to see how TPP turns out. I'm willing to bet the PS4 version will still have a rock solid 60FPS while looking significantly better than Ground Zeroes. The trailers we've seen are already looking great.

 

[Gold_Loot]

It literally hits 21 fps 2 seconds into the video, and the gameplay isnt anywhere close to locked at 30, hovering ~28 fps with dips to 25.

That's not gameplay, and its from HDD strain.

 

[Tripolygon]

It literally hits 21 fps 2 seconds into the video, and the gameplay isnt anywhere close to locked at 30, hovering ~28 fps with dips to 25.

Cutscene. The game hovers between 29-30 drops to 28 in a few occasions and to 27 in fewer occasions.

 

[Hendrick's]

I have to question why devs take the time to implement a variable resolution on the Xbone, but when it comes to the PS4 version you get strict adherence to 1920x1080 and you get the small frame rate fluctuations...

My guess would be that the PS4 version would stay at a full 1080p for the vast majority of the time...you might not even need to drop all the way to 1600x900...maybe just a horizontal drop in res, so you only need to scale one way?...

I personally despise the "lazy dev" excuse for poorly performing games, but I just don't see why you would do one thing for one platform, but not bother with the other..it seems like they get the PS4 version at 1080p and optimize till its "close enough"

Only other scenario I can see is if there is pressure from Sony to achieve 1080p at all costs

The game obviously could have used a few more months of development time for all platforms. Sadly that is just the way of things these days.

 

[dark10x]

Because GZ is one area, TTP is an open-world.

We've seen the game running live in two much larger environments.

Simply increasing the size isn't going to tank performance. It's not as if the game will be drawing everything at once.

 

[mario_O]

It literally hits 21 fps 2 seconds into the video, and the gameplay isnt anywhere close to locked at 30, hovering ~28 fps with dips to 25.

Naaa, the gameplay is fine. It hits 25 just once and for 1 second.

And I suppose the cutscenes can be fixed via a patch.

 

[Falcker]

Because GZ is one area, TTP is an open-world.

Just because it's a larger zone doesn't mean it will be rendered in its entirety.

I doubt size will make a difference on performance.

 

[soyun]

This is the worse case scenario.

Feels like a parity clause all over again

The sensible design choices should be,

Xb version should engage 30 fps vsync, disable 1080, and instead has 720p tp 900p dat dr.

Ps4 version should have 900p to 1080p DR, and locked 30fps.

Xbox One version is 900p and suffers from frame pacing, whereas PS4 version is 1080p and no frame pacing issue. But yeah, undoubtedly there was a parity clause...

 

[GifGafIsTheBestGaf]

so the frame rate is higher on XBO?

i thought PS4 was supposed to be superior. sony lying about their hardware again?

i know you are joking but i saw this same-ish comment in the YT video lol

on a side note, in some parts ive felt the framerate tank a bit but it is not that often. im sure, there will be more optimization done two both versions.

only big complaint i have is with the text

 

[Green Yoshi]

I wanted to buy the PS4-version in July. Hope that everything is allright then. Game runs fine on most PCs, so why not on next gen consoles?

Can't remember 360 having such problems in 2007.

 

[Noobcraft]

Naaa, the gameplay is fine. It hits 25 just once and for 1 second.

And I suppose the cutscenes can be fixed via a patch.

They should patch the cutscenes to run at 30, and lock the gameplay in at 30 especially on the Xbox One version because the extra frames just introduce judder.

 

[Javin98]

No offense, Dark10x, but look at what DF's wording has led to in this thread. Criticizing the horrible performance in cutscenes is fine, but because of their wording, many misinterpreted it as gameplay having horrible performance as well.

 

[Metfanant]

The game obviously could have used a few more months of development time for all platforms. Sadly that is just the way of things these days.

Sure, but if the dynamic resolution is in place on one platform to obviously help with frame rate issues..than why not the other?

 

[BeforeU]

I wanted to buy the PS4-version in July. Hope that everything is allright then. Game runs fine on most PCs, so why not on next gen consoles?

Can't remember 360 having such problems in 2007.

I am under the impression that this is a rushed port. The game is not optimized well for the console. It was made for PC from day 1, since console architecture is same this time. It was easy to port but not well optimised.

And there is obviously shit load of stuff going on in this game, its massive. And isn't the CDPR team small? They did an incredible job nonetheless. The only problem was, they didn't have balls like Rockstar does to delay console or PC version of the game. I mean you can't blame them

 

[Cavalier]

This is one game that I feel like I would be better off spending $30 on a ram upgrade and just play it on my PC instead.

 

[Ushay]

Does Sony enforce 1080 on all it's games? Puzzles me as a lower res would have hugely benefited them.

Anyhow hugely enjoying this regardless of graphical hitches.

 

[Tenebrous]

I am under the impression that this is a rushed port. The game is not optimized well for the console. It was made for PC from day 1, since console architecture is same this time. It was easy to port but not well optimised.

PC owners are saying the exact opposite - The truth is somewhere inbetween.

Next-gen systems just have really bad CPUs, and that's going to hurt in games like this.

 

[c0de]

No offense, Dark10x, but look at what DF's wording has led to in this thread. Criticizing the horrible performance in cutscenes is fine, but because of their wording, many misinterpreted it as gameplay having horrible performance as well.

Seriously, look how people post here, many don't even read the text or are even interested in it. DF is not to blame in this case, in my opinion.

 

[CitizenCope]

Oh well, I'll wait for a patch then. Tried start playing on xbone and the stutter made my eyes strain almost immediately.

This is what I'm going to have to do on PS4. Love to hear people say I'm exaggerating. Maybe I am just super sensitive too it.

 

[Dragon Puncher]

Does PS4 has the framepacing issues or is that only on Xbox One?

 

[Javin98]

Seriously, look how people post here, many don't even read the text or are even interested in it. DF is not to blame in this case, in my opinion.

Yeah, technically, it's the fault of the people who have terrible reading comprehension, but DF's wording is a bit suspicious in this article.

 

[Green Yoshi]

Does Sony enforce 1080 on all it's games? Puzzles me as a lower res would have hugely benefited them.

Anyhow hugely enjoying this regardless of graphical hitches.

No, Battlefield: Hardline, Watch Dogs and AC Unity run at 900p.

 

[Condom]

Watch the video, the gameplay. Do you ever see the PS4 hit 20fps?

Hahaha, best comment in this thread. Dude, it hits 20 plenty of times lol.

 

[Aceofspades]

Does Sony enforce 1080 on all it's games? Puzzles me as a lower res would have hugely benefited them.

Anyhow hugely enjoying this regardless of graphical hitches.

The game is 99% at 30fp, why sacrifice 30% of the pixels and picture clarity for a 1% increase in fps. ( CDPR can iron the issue via a patch)

I would agree with your statement if PS4 version was averaging at 15fps which is not

 

[Gbraga]

No offense, Dark10x, but look at what DF's wording has led to in this thread. Criticizing the horrible performance in cutscenes is fine, but because of their wording, many misinterpreted it as gameplay having horrible performance as well.

Only if they didn't read anything past "20fps". Maybe even before that.

 

[styl3s]

XB1 can't catch a break on DF, it seems even if the XB1 version was locked at 30fps they would probably still give it to the PS4 because of higher res

The whole point of the performance analysis is that it's a in-depth analysis.

10 more fps doesn't automatically make it a better experience. And IQ matters to a lot of people. I just wonder if they will do another run at it with the new patch.

 

[Easy_D]

Yo that video. What the hell at the LoD just disappearing buildings and reloading them. Is that normal?

https://youtu.be/tkB8gpPzMkw?t=99 <- Talking about this.

 

[Kinthalis]

The game is 99% at 30fp, why sacrifice 30% of the pixels and picture clarity for a 1% increase in fps. ( CDPR can iron the issue via a patch)

I would agree with your statement if PS4 version was averaging at 15fps which is not

How do you think they'll accomplish that? The magic of to the metal coding?

IF they improve things, they'll accomplish it by sacrificing some visuals for better performance.

 

[Javin98]

Only if they didn't read anything past "20fps". Maybe even before that.

I doubt those people watched the video and immediately jumped straight to conclusions too.

 

[Green Yoshi]

PC owners are saying the exact opposite - The truth is somewhere inbetween.

Next-gen systems just have really bad CPUs, and that's going to hurt in games like this.

Developers must better use the number of cores available. But that's easier said than done. Exploiting the Cell CPU took years.

 

[Dictator93]

Developers must better use the number of cores available. But that's easier said than done. Exploiting the Cell CPU took years.

Belive me, this game has a very nice core spread on my PC. It is invariably better under console APIs.

 

[Aceofspades]

How do you think they'll accomplish that? The magic of to the metal coding?

IF they improve things, they'll accomplish it by sacrificing some visuals for better performance.

Just further optimization, no magic needed. Its not like I'm asking CDPR to run 1080/60.

 

[Lifejumper]

They need to optimize the storm effects, those tank the framerate the most.

 

[dark10x]

Yo that video. What the hell at the LoD just disappearing buildings and reloading them. Is that normal?

https://youtu.be/tkB8gpPzMkw?t=99 <- Talking about this.

That is not normal. Not sure why that happened there. I tested it on my own system and encountered nothing of the sort.

Due to the dynamic way the game loads assets, though, I could see it getting tripped up in such a way that something like that might occur. Very odd.

 

[Handy Fake]

Hahaha, best comment in this thread. Dude, it hits 20 plenty of times lol.

G-a-m-e-p-l-a-y.

 

[malfcn]

Any Blighttown moments?