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Yu Suzuki: Shenmue 3 Funding and Budget Statement
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Laevateinn
Member
If you liked Shenmue enough to pledge $120, play 2 ASAP so that you'll be inspired enough to pledge up to $300.
Shenmue 2 will blow your mind! Play it! Shenmue 1 really is a prologue.
Opus Angelorum
Member
Protomanx13
Neo Member
I tried to play Shemue 1 on emulator and to say the least, those tank control is frustrating. Now, I am just watching someone playthrough.
Nevertheless, I pledged $185. I want to see these kind of games be success
I've played both Shenmue 1 and 2 when they were released years ago on the DC and Xbox and don't feel like trying to track them down again. I haven't pledge any money yet, but that's because I would want to replay both before Shenmue 3. If they can't somehow figure out a way to re-release 1 and 2 on the PC or something, then I can't justify playing 3. I remember fuck all about those two games and no, some 3 minute synopsis video ain't enough for me.
No Xbox One port is the least of the problems.
BomberMouse
Member
They should have put 10mil from the beginning. Most people just see funded and would rather wait to get it on sale.
I've watched some videos and I don't really get it, sorry. Seems super cheesy with some of the worst voice acting ever and lots of pointless things to do that don't look very fun.
I'm not surprised funding has slowed. Looks like a niche sort of game.
It is niche, you're right there. But you have to remember the time these games came out in. There were completely revolutionary.
The smear campaign by the American gaming media continues.
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/featu...come-clean-on-shenmue-budget-and-funding.aspx
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/featu...come-clean-on-shenmue-budget-and-funding.aspx
BlackBuzzard
Banned
"Game journalism" Guess GI needs something now that barely anybody buys their shit rag.
It makes absolutely no fucking sense for Yu to jump into bed with Sony simply to spite Xboners. Sony have got to have a major undisclosed role into making Shenmue a reality above and beyond anything a dealing with MS had to bring to the table - to the extent that Yu withheld an Xbone version/ wont be developing it, because the current deal makes Shenmue 3 more of a reality than less of one.
I suspect (with nothing beyond probability based on likelihood alone) that:
1. MS offered zero/inadequet interest/support/financial assistance or interest to Yu in realising Shenmue 3.
2. Sony offered a measurable amount of assistance, either free marketing - which could easily match or exceed the sum raised by Kickstarter as it is or significant developmental support at little to no cost. That might be use of their engines, studios, tech team - even so, games, actors, voice overs, motion capture, asset building cost money - which is where the KS money would go.
I think Sony consider aspects of Shenmue both potentially legendary and potentially toxic - theyre willing to offer Yu a stage at E3, adding their support but also want to have enough distance in case the project is a monumentally commercial flop THIRD TIME ROUND.
Why put tens of millions into a highly risky franchise with historically zero commercial success when they can put that money into a sure fire hit like TLG, Uncharted, GT7?
We dont know the details Sony have with Yu. All we can infer is that Sony made Yu an offer better than MS or at least one that raised more money than by any potential revenue/ support by keeping Xboners onboard.
Its a numbers game. This deal, whatever the details are was the more lucrative one - one that makes Shenmue 3 more epic and likely to exist than a game that would have involved making an Xbone version a reality too.
shinobi602
Member
The cheese was part of the charm. The games were revolutionary back in 1999-2000. Real-time of day, dynamic weather systems, NPCs with their own unique daily patterns, the most detailed world a player could immerse themselves in, all added to just how much love and care went into them. These were legitimately new things brought into the games industry.
The story was great, tons of funny and genuine characters to talk to, fun combat system, it had it all.
Man... This is just horrible. What else do people want them to say on the matter? They've already said as much as they could say.
Do people literally want the hard copy agreements between Sony and Y's Net..? Jesus.. This sorta "concern/trolling" tactics is getting tiring..
So sad to see such a beloved franchise getting dragged through the dirt.
DidntKnowJack
Member
Yeah I mean this came out prior to games like GTA 3 which blew the doors open on open world gaming. Shenmue was never open world, but it was the first glimpse for many of us into the idea of a living, breathing world. Its sort of a "you had to be there" kind of situation.
Iorv3th
Member
The movie that comes with 2 on xbox is like a full hour long.
Some of the comments on that article... People still believe this is a AAA Sony first party game, wtf.
Yeah... I'm gonna equate this to VR right now. 10 years from now, the first set of consumer VR headsets are gonna be child's play compared to the current ones from that time.
BUT, and it's a big but, this right now is where were witnessing a revolution.
Shenmue was the same way back then. Fully voiced NPC's, a day night cycle, every door and closet can be opened, etc All the stuff modern engines now offer with a click of a button actually took a SHITTON of work back then.
Modern gaming owes a lot to Shenmue.
I never understand people who seem to think "Yeah.. shenmue. It doesnt seem like you do enough. Kind of boring.. I guess its a product of its time". No, this wasn't made during a time when you pet kittens and drove a forklifts in every game. People like this game because of those things, and a lot more, not in spite of them. "You had to be there" isn't a proper reasoning for why I love the game franchise, and think its one of the best ever still. I'm tired of shooting shit up, flying, and casting spells.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
I do not think his $10 Million is to deliver the full Shenmue experience we know and really miss, but to deliver something more... considerably so.
laughably bad opinion piece. what's left to even "come clean" about? it's like they glanced over the budget statement and went "WELL, YOU'RE WRONG AND SHADY" shut uuuuuup
what an absolute joke
DidntKnowJack
Member
It is an over simplistic way of describing it, I was just trying to convey that it had an impact on me personally because it was so different than anything I'd played before.
Holy shit.
I haven't seen you since the Three Dirty Dwarve bowling night that was totally won but were denied.
I thought Suzuki was more than clear with his latest clarification? Jesus Christ...I don't get where all this sh*t is coming from lately from the press/media
sechsterangriff
Member
Yeah, not trying to single any one out. Just hear a lot people shy away from its great aspects, because there is enough to warn newcomers about which overly blots out what is revered aboutt the game. Its open world aspect that was so intriguing for the time, some odd gameplay mechanics have aged. But I don't think of it as an idea to be some game that time's passed by. I think where it was going is a lot more intriguing than where modern games have gone.
Shadow2222
Member
I am really sad to see these pieces continue to appear. I will not be visiting these sites in the future.
Theonik
Member
Yes, people are still too focused on that. We need to get as much money into this campaign as possible rather we want to because we want Shenmue III to be as big as it can possibly be, there is no downside to getting more Shenmue. 10m is a major milestone and that's it. We can reach it if we unite and work towards it. This is all we should be thinking about.
Shadow2222
Member
All I know is that I am glad that Shenmue is the "first" of these Kickstarters, since I guarantee Sony will never do this again thanks to the bad press 
RamzaIsCool
The Amiga Brotherhood
Well one thing is for sure. This is the last time Sony will try this method to give a "dead" franchise a chance to get out there again. Which is a shame, who knows what we would have gotten. Oh well...
indigo-cyclops
Member
It's almost like GI and their shit audience missed the last week or two of revelations on this matter...
Incredibly ill-informed readerbase and author. He states in the fucking apology that he can't disclose the specifics, let alone the knowledge that Sony is not funding the game, only helping with marketing and such because, get this, it's appearing on their system!
IpsoFacto
Member
I ask to have, does nobody at Game Informer, Polygon or Ars Technica ever heard of an NDA?
"Tell us how this game is being funded!"
Features FAQ online and provides explanation without breaking NDA.
"It's still not transparent enough!"
What answers are they expecting to get? It's one thing to have opinion, but this is just starting sh*t just for the sake of it.
"Tell us how this game is being funded!"
Features FAQ online and provides explanation without breaking NDA.
"It's still not transparent enough!"
What answers are they expecting to get? It's one thing to have opinion, but this is just starting sh*t just for the sake of it.
chromatic9
Member
What are the sales figures for Shenmue in Japan?
US seemed to add a lot of sales for the first one and the PS4 and XBO are close in install base over there.
Yakuza can sell~500k pretty quickly in Japan on PS3 and its a fairly similar game to Shenmue in some respects.
I can see Shenmue III coming to other platforms later on.
Augemitbutter
Member
this.
Theonik
Member
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
If its providing development help then im mostly okay with this, it would prove more useful than money, but there is no confirmation about it and people are free to speculate in whatever way sounds plausible.
Again its up to Yu to ensure all doubts are cast away.
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Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
Pretty much. I pledged, and am perfectly fine with the Sony arrangement, but when getting funding depends entirely on the good will of your fan base, transparency and honesty is absolutely paramount.
igordennis
Member
I saw that GameInformer opinion piece earlier and it is fucking ridiculous jesus christ.
akidnamededdy
Banned
I will be god damned if we finally get Shenmue 3 to happen and the half-witted, mouth-breathing games journalism industry fucks it up for us.
Since when do we need itemized budgets for announced games? Fuck this noise.
Since when do we need itemized budgets for announced games? Fuck this noise.
chromatic9
Member
Isn't kickstarter all or nothing? If you don't reach the goal you don't get anything.
I think 5 mill would be a fair goal. 2 mill was them playing it safe, as they didn't know if the interest was really there.
DO YOU ALL WANT PROOF THAT THE $47 MILLION ALSO INCLUDED PARTS OF SHENMUE II PRODUCTION?! WELL THERE YOU GO!! LOOK AT THE VIDEOS!!!
Those videos existed before Shenmue 1 was released! I know that for a fact as I clearly remember watching them online via a RealPlayer stream when Yu Suzuki and Sega was presenting Shenmue in Japan back in 2000, and I also remember Sega Europe distributing those videos on a Shenmue promo VHS video tape to all retailers, such as Electronic Boutique, in the UK too. I have been telling everyone numerous times here that $47 million was NOT strictly just for the budget of Shenmue 1 as it included numerous things for Shenmue II and the series. If THAT doesn't offer clear proof then I'm sorry, many of you are in denial.
NOW SPREAD THE WORD! ... and sorry for the caps and thank you for reminding me about those videos for they are major proof to debunk anyone that talks about the $47 million budget.
Man... the amount of times I watched that video back then... it was ridiculous.
It's up there along with Phantasy Star Online's trailer as one of my favourite gaming videos ever.
This on the other hand appears to be the poor man's version.
I wish Microsoft would step in, even if it was for just Windows PC gaming, and help get the game out by adding some form of support/funding.
It's unfortunate, this of all games, that every side doesn't feel like they could enjoy the game or that they could help make it happen.
I'm excited the game is coming, but I wish it had been a non-exclusive announcement simply for funding purposes.
Sangetsu-II
Member
This, it will be the only retail copy in the stores.
Sony wants to help with marketing and publishing of their version. They will also provide development assistance for PS4 dev kits. The most logical possibility.
If somehow this game never releases, or turns into a story-driven trading card game due to budget constraints... despite how hearthbroken (and out $250) I'd be, I'll still remember to come back here and call this post out, lol.