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Nintendo PlayStation...so, apparently someone has one.

BokehKing

Banned
No, this is an entire system that Sony designed for themselves per the contract.

It accepts SNES cartridges on the top, and a disc insert drive for CD-Roms carts.
But you remember what I'm talking about right?
The rumor when I was a kid was the 'super nes cd plugs into that "
 

whipihguh

Banned
yeah i read about this, but he never answered, right?

i wonder if the kid has more prototypes of the nintendo playstation in his attic (which he couldnt decipher). i suppose most of them dont work, but this one looks like a solid one.
i really want to know whats on the cartridge and whats on the disc.

The guy with the PlayStation or the poster of the Imagesoft game? I assume the guy talking about the Imagesoft game never managed to get a video of the game, or he's still trying to find it. The guy with the PlayStation is still trying to find a proper AC cord in order to plug this thing in and see if it still works.

I doubt he guy's dad has more, since this seems like this may be the prototype Olaf took with him. And remember, there have been quite a few people who have been trying to track down this thing for years and have barely gotten a small look at earlier prototypes with no games, let alone a finalized prototype system with a possible demo. It's been 20 years since we've seen this thing publicly. As far as we know, this may be the only one left in existence.
 

Tadaima

Member
It goes on the top? What was that thing on the bottom of the system for then? I thought it would plug into that

The Satteleview is the most well-known attachment that uses the extension port. There was also a CD attachment which would have attached to the bottom of the system as an alternative to the Play Station model.
 
Seriously, this guy is literally sitting on a goldmine.

He needs to contact professionals (from a museum, etc) that would actually have experts that know engineering and things that can come in, look the thing over, see what can be fixed to make it work (without breaking it) all while it's documented for everyone to see and enjoy.

Then have someone that can rip it and the carts/cds so people can dig into it and salvage from it and keep it going, like with Mame and arcade cabinets.

After all of that is said and done then he can decide to sell it off to someone or let a museum have it.

I don't get why a Museum or someone hasn't contacted him yet? This is like one of the holy grails of gaming technology.

I agree.
 
I highly doubt it gets anywhere near there. There have been other unreleased consoles selling for 2000-3000. So while this could easily go for 5+, 500k is silly business.

I have offered to go down to Phili if I have to, not a big deal really. A couple hour drive, could stay at a friends. Im as in the know as anyone nowadays.

I dunno. Anything related to Nintendo immediately spikes interest, plus adding to the fact that this system has been the subject of legend for the past twenty years, popular interest alone will drive up the value of this. Working or not.

I'd be amazed if this is worth less than what some rare games have gone for.

For comparison's sake, what other unreleased consoles for $2000-3000 are you referring to?
 

Anth0ny

Member
I highly doubt it gets anywhere near there. There have been other unreleased consoles selling for 2000-3000. So while this could easily go for 5+, 500k is silly business.

I have offered to go down to Phili if I have to, not a big deal really. A couple hour drive, could stay at a friends. Im as in the know as anyone nowadays.

no unreleased console comes anywhere close to the importance of this

$500k seems realistic to me.
 

atbigelow

Member
Reading those SNES CD addon docs, it's super interesting that they were putting hardware into the cart. Of course it would need a "control cart" to boot from, but it's interesting that the CPU and extra RAM was in there. They could have optionally upgraded these components further down the road, too.

More on-topic: this thing is a big deal.
 

Borman

Member
No, this is an entire system that Sony designed for themselves per the contract.

It accepts SNES cartridges on the top, and a disc insert drive for CD-Roms carts.



Um, this is the holy grail of unreleased consoles. Nothing else compares.



That is a separate one they were also making for Nintendo. But never seen a physical one, only mock ups.

Yes, other stuff does compare, whether you like it or not :p Sega Pluto consoles, Panasonic M2 consoles, and others have sold for that price range. Obviously, I do expect this to go for much more on the open market, but 500k is silly. And Im talking verified sales, not "I saw it end on Ebay at X$." Considering I have a few prototype consoles sitting on my shelf, I do have some knowledge of what these things tend to go for.
 

AmyS

Member
It goes on the top? What was that thing on the bottom of the system for then? I thought it would plug into that

But you remember what I'm talking about right?
The rumor when I was a kid was the 'super nes cd plugs into that "

Keep in mind there were a number of different SNES CD systems. Sony Nintendo Play Station (Super Disc). There would be an add-on drive for the SNES under the console as well as a combined unit, which this one is.

Another by Philips, where Nintendo betrayed Sony.

And finally the one done together between Nintendo, Philips and Sony (Nintendo Disc) where you had a CD-ROM drive that attached underneath plus a cartridge containing a 32-bit CPU and other stuff.
 
Seriously, this guy is literally sitting on a goldmine.

He needs to contact professionals (from a museum, etc) that would actually have experts that know engineering and things that can come in, look the thing over, see what can be fixed to make it work (without breaking it) all while it's documented for everyone to see and enjoy.

Then have someone that can rip it and the carts/cds so people can dig into it and salvage from it and keep it going, like with Mame and arcade cabinets.

After all of that is said and done then he can decide to sell it off to someone or let a museum have it.

I don't get why a Museum or someone hasn't contacted him yet? This is like one of the holy grails of gaming technology.

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Thats awes-- wait, people think he'll get 500k to a million for it? Lollll. As if these havent passed hands before. Not everyone wants to announce their finds for obvious reasons.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
Yes, other stuff does compare, whether you like it or not :p Sega Pluto consoles, Panasonic M2 consoles, and others have sold for that price range. Obviously, I do expect this to go for much more on the open market, but 500k is silly. And Im talking verified sales, not "I saw it end on Ebay at X$"

This was the prototype console/broken contract that sparked a company that went on to created the highest selling system of all time, and reshaped gaming as we know it today.

With Nintendo AND Sony. Sorry, but this is the Holy Grail.
 
no unreleased console comes anywhere close to the importance of this

$500k seems realistic to me.

Yup, any other "prototype" or unreleased console is absolutely dwarfed by how important this piece is to the lineage of gaming consoles. For christs sake, this is a nintendo playstation. How can you say it won't even pull 20k lol
 

New002

Member
Seriously, this guy is literally sitting on a goldmine.

He needs to contact professionals (from a museum, etc) that would actually have experts that know engineering and things that can come in, look the thing over, see what can be fixed to make it work (without breaking it) all while it's documented for everyone to see and enjoy.

Then have someone that can rip it and the carts/cds so people can dig into it and salvage from it and keep it going, like with Mame and arcade cabinets.

After all of that is said and done then he can decide to sell it off to someone or let a museum have it.

I don't get why a Museum or someone hasn't contacted him yet? This is like one of the holy grails of gaming technology.

Agreed. Also, if I were him I would never sell it lol. Too awesome.
 

Tadaima

Member
I doubt he guy's dad has more, since this seems like this may be the prototype Olaf took with him. And remember, there have been quite a few people who have been trying to track down this thing for years and have barely gotten a small look at earlier prototypes with no games, let alone a finalized prototype system with a possible demo. It's been 20 years since we've seen this thing publicly. As far as we know, this may be the only one left in existence.

There are definitely more units out there. We just have to hope the ones that were passed around have not yet been discarded. They'll come out with time.
 

Borman

Member
This was the prototype console/broken contract that created the highest selling system of all time, and reshaped gaming as we know it today.

With Nintendo AND Sony. Sorry, but this is the Holy Grail.

Trust me, I realize what it is. And I've done some of the research that is out there that people take for fact. But very few people have 500k lying around. It's a hugely important piece of history, and I hope that the person is paid for it, but I sure hope it ends up in a museum rather than some rich person, should someone actually have silly money lying around.
 
Yes, other stuff does compare, whether you like it or not :p Sega Pluto consoles, Panasonic M2 consoles, and others have sold for that price range. Obviously, I do expect this to go for much more on the open market, but 500k is silly. And Im talking verified sales, not "I saw it end on Ebay at X$." Considering I have a few prototype consoles sitting on my shelf, I do have some knowledge of what these things tend to go for.

I have to disagree. There is far, far more interest in this than a Sega Pluto or a Panasonic M2. Interest among enthusiasts and interest among more casual followers of Nintendo. I think you're vastly underestimating how much fascination there is behind this.

I'm not saying it's going to for or $500,000-$1,000,000, but if there are Nintendo fans willing to drop hefty five-figure sums for Stadium Events of NWC carts, I'm sure there's some out there willing to pay at least that for this.
 
This is gaming history in plastic form, this guy needs to do the right thing, go to some experts that can see through it and then sell it by a bunch of money.

I highly doubt it gets anywhere near there. There have been other unreleased consoles selling for 2000-3000. So while this could easily go for 5+, 500k is silly business.

I have offered to go down to Phili if I have to, not a big deal really. A couple hour drive, could stay at a friends. Im as in the know as anyone nowadays.

Well, a NWC cartridge was sold for 100K, if you think this isnt more valuable than that, from a money and historic perspective, you are bonkers.
And if this thing actually works, or can be fixed its going to be astronomical.

EDIT: About the sega pluto and panasonic consoles. Nobody really gave a fuck of those, this has the nintendo and sony, and change in the industry actually attached to it.
 

Borman

Member
I have to disagree. There is far, far more interest in this than a Sega Pluto or a Panasonic M2. Interest among enthusiasts and interest among more casual followers of Nintendo. I think you're vastly underestimating how much fascination there is behind this.

Im really not. I do think this is far more important of a piece, dont get me wrong. But I stand by my comment of 500k being silly money.

This is gaming history in plastic form, this guy needs to do the right thing, go to some experts that can see through it and then sell it by a bunch of money.



Well, a NWC cartridge was sold for 100K, if you think this isnt more valuable than that, from a money and historic perspective, you are bonkers.
And if this thing actually works, or can be fixed its going to be astronomical.


I have never seen a verified sale of 100k. 20k or so, yes.

http://www.polygon.com/2014/2/5/538...hampionships-cartridge-sells-for-100k-on-ebay
 
This was the prototype console/broken contract that sparked a company that went on to created the highest selling system of all time, and reshaped gaming as we know it today.

With Nintendo AND Sony. Sorry, but this is the Holy Grail.

I have to agree.

This is one of the most important pieces of gaming history.

I would pay to go into a museum to see it and this guy has it around in his kitchen. I am not sure he knows what he has yet.

He should be wearing gloves.
 

Rich!

Member
I have to disagree. There is far, far more interest in this than a Sega Pluto or a Panasonic M2. Interest among enthusiasts and interest among more casual followers of Nintendo. I think you're vastly underestimating how much fascination there is behind this.

For what it's worth, I have an issue of N64 magazine from 2000 or so that had a feature on the whole situation, and it threw around a £200k figure of how much it would be worth if this thing ever saw the light of day.

It would be worth considerably more now. But these are all guesses, not information from someone who knows the scene.
 

X05

Upside, inside out he's livin la vida loca, He'll push and pull you down, livin la vida loca
Reading those SNES CD addon docs, it's super interesting that they were putting hardware into the cart. Of course it would need a "control cart" to boot from, but it's interesting that the CPU and extra RAM was in there. They could have optionally upgraded these components further down the road, too.

More on-topic: this thing is a big deal.
Good thing I'm not the only one that noticed that :)
But rechecking the doc, it's dated February 1993 so that document and all this specs are for the Nintendo-Philips-Sony thing, not for the one being discussed in this topic :(
 

Borman

Member
psa: Borman knows more about this stuff than all of you combined. Sorry to put it that way, but it's true.

Thanks hah. Hate having to defend myself. Obviously 5k is way low, thus the + thing. But 500k is well and beyond what I could see things go for. Obviously, it would be amazing and Id sit here cheering just as much. But people overestimate the market on unreleased and prototype stuff and then the owners get it in their head that it is worth some inflated number that isn't true. I've seen many people start at 20k and settle for a lower value than even the max of what was once offered, just because the other people backed out after being screwed around. I've been doing this for a while now.

PS: Video of my PSX prototype controller is up ;)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MldZbtkc0GE
 

Anth0ny

Member
Trust me, I realize what it is. And I've done some of the research that is out there that people take for fact. But very few people have 500k lying around. It's a hugely important piece of history, and I hope that the person is paid for it, but I sure hope it ends up in a museum rather than some rich person, should someone actually have silly money lying around.

there are definitely multi-millionaire video game collectors out there with "fuck you money". If a NWC gold cart can go for $100k, $500k for the holy grail of video games definitely feels possible imo.
 

Borman

Member
there are definitely multi-millionaire video game collectors out there with "fuck you money". If a NWC gold cart can go for $100k, $500k for the holy grail of video games definitely feels possible imo.

Again, none as ever sold for 100k.
 

Lyriell

Member
I think 30 to 50k is probably the go for this one. I don't collect jack but even I reckon I could convince the Mrs to spend about 20k on this.
 

Sakujou

Banned
The guy with the PlayStation or the poster of the Imagesoft game? I assume the guy talking about the Imagesoft game never managed to get a video of the game, or he's still trying to find it. The guy with the PlayStation is still trying to find a proper AC cord in order to plug this thing in and see if it still works.

I doubt he guy's dad has more, since this seems like this may be the prototype Olaf took with him. And remember, there have been quite a few people who have been trying to track down this thing for years and have barely gotten a small look at earlier prototypes with no games, let alone a finalized prototype system with a possible demo. It's been 20 years since we've seen this thing publicly. As far as we know, this may be the only one left in existence.

20 years since we saw this publicly???
when was that?
i mean this was shown '91 at CES when sony/nintendo were doing something in the dark.

i thought this was the only time when it was shown in public...?

and yeah, i was asking bout imagesoft.

i thought so, since i never heard about any footage.

i wonder if there was footage shown back then when it was presented.
or games already announced for that...

i mean there must be some studio out there from back then knowing about this...
 
It would not have been PSX power, sadly.

Hell even Nintendo oversold the Ultra64, and it received a substantial downgrade upon the N64 launch.

I still want that Robotech game/technical demo they were showing off. Looked so good.

Damn you Project Reality!
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
I still want that Robotech game they were showing off. Looked so good.

Damn you Project Reality!

Even as a teenager back then, before the internet and website gaming journalism, it jaded me enough to skip the N64 (when they showed so much Silicon Graphics power, only to deliver 1/4 the over promised tech) and get a PlayStation. I admit I loved playing the Star Wars games on my cousin's N64 though, just hated the 13-15fps frame-rate for most of the games.
 
It's been a long time, I would love for people in the know from both Sony and Nintendo to come out and talk about this particular find.
 

Sakujou

Banned
oh my god, please help this kid to fire this beast on. i want to know whats on the cartridge, if there is still a cd in there and if there is other stuff at his fathers attic.

please. i cant believe this.
reveal everything
get all those peeps from assemblergames on board to dump the roms.
This is incredible that's it real.

Absolutely huge piece of videogame history.


its not a huge piece.

its the biggest mystical creature of all time. this would have changed history.
it makes me bonkers that after all those years, some random kid shows up and fumbles with it around....
 

Lyriell

Member
It's been a long time, I would love for people in the know from both Sony and Nintendo to come out and talk about this particular find.

Yamauchi left a letter to be opened only upon the finding of this relic. Rumour has it that an elite cybernetic ninja will be unleashed upon any foolish enough to release this. That or his undead spirit.
 
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