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Mafia 3 Reveal Trailer (Hangar 13/Take-Two, 2016, PC/PS4/XB1)

Game4life

Banned
This does not look like Mafia at all in tone and atmosphere. I dont like this time period. I agree with this post

For those that have quoted me I never said I had any issues with the setting, my main issue is you're not playing as an Italian American and from looking at the gameplay a lot of the "feel" is gone as well. I'm not a fan of the jazzy era that New Orleans is apparently famous for, I'd love another "old school" New York around the same era as the first one. And for those comparing it to GTA, that's completely different. Crime isn't something reserved for a fixed set of nationalities, so they can be white, black, or any other colour. But I, and I'm sure a lot of others as well, associate the world Mafia with the "original" Italian/Sicilian Mafia. Sure, nowadays Mafia is just a term of organised crime regardless of nationality, but I don't think that's how this series began.
 

UrbanRats

Member
After watching the gameplay segments again it looks closer to Sleeping Dogs than GTA...which is kinda awesome if its done right.

Looks like the later Driver games to me (not San Francisco, but Driv3r and Parallel Lines).

I don't know, i don't like where it's going in that sense.
I wish it would tone down the action and stay more grounded.

The footage looks kinda.....arcadey? What happened to Mafia landing on the more serious, realistic side of open world crime action games? The cars flipping and blowing up + catching on fire from being hit, the way he dives out of the muscle car, the ramp at a police blockade to jump over it, the gratuitous knife kill, popping off grenade launchers in the middle of the street in broad day....What? le sigh. I was really hoping this was going to be a situation where police chases were heavy and realistic, and combat was raw and powerful without being over the top.

Still looking forward to what they can do with the setting and these characters, but I can't say I'm really excited for the tone of the gameplay they showed.

Basically this.

And it's a shame, because to me the setting is a big improvement over Mafia 1&2, which were walking Godfather clichès.
 
This does not look like Mafia at all in tone and atmosphere. I dont like this time period. I agree with this post
Glancing at wikipedia
A mafia is a type of organized crime syndicate whose primary activities are protection racketeering, the arbitration of disputes between criminals, and the organizing and oversight of illegal agreements and transactions.

The term was originally applied to the Sicilian Mafia, but has since expanded to encompass other organizations of similar methods and purpose, e.g. "the Russian Mafia", "the Japanese Mafia", "the Albanian Mafia" or "Maltese Mafia". The term is applied informally by the press and public; the criminal organizations themselves have their own terms (e.g. the Sicilian and American Mafia call themselves "Cosa Nostra", the Mexican Mafia calls itself La Eme and the "Japanese Mafia" calls itself yakuza).
Mafia decided to expand and evolve to other mafias rather than stay pigeonholed in the well-trodden world of the Italian Mafia. I think that's great. Helps the longevity and diversity of the franchise
 

GeeTeeCee

Member
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Looks very action-ey.

In those days, cars were coated in nitroglycerin so that bird poop would slide right off. Turns out this also made them highly explosive. Hindsight.
 

Elios83

Member
Ummmm honestly I expected better graphics and hopefully they don't change the atmosphere and tone to be in line with Vice City.
But I'm definetly gonna buy this if they don't fuck it up in some big way.
 

Fractal

Banned
The footage looks kinda.....arcadey? What happened to Mafia landing on the more serious, realistic side of open world crime action games? The cars flipping and blowing up + catching on fire from being hit, the way he dives out of the muscle car, the ramp at a police blockade to jump over it, the gratuitous knife kill....What? sigh. I was really hoping this was going to be a situation where police chases were heavy and realistic, and combat was raw and powerful without being over the top.

Still looking forward to what they can do with the setting and these characters, but I can't say I'm really excited for the tone of the gameplay they showed.
Yeah, just came to point that out as well... while the setting is very promising, going by what little gameplay we have available, everything looks floaty somehow. I was hoping for something more grounded and weighty, this looks too over-the-top for a Mafia game. Still, it's too early to judge, and I sincerely hope we get a good game in the end.
 

Rembrandt

Banned
For those that have quoted me I never said I had any issues with the setting, my main issue is you're not playing as an Italian American and from looking at the gameplay a lot of the "feel" is gone as well. I'm not a fan of the jazzy era that New Orleans is apparently famous for, I'd love another "old school" New York around the same era as the first one. And for those comparing it to GTA, that's completely different. Crime isn't something reserved for a fixed set of nationalities, so they can be white, black, or any other colour. But I, and I'm sure a lot of others as well, associate the world Mafia with the "original" Italian/Sicilian Mafia. Sure, nowadays Mafia is just a term of organised crime regardless of nationality, but I don't think that's how this series began.

lol, this reminds me so much of the San Andreas thread. Straight down to not being a fan of the jazzy era.
 

Lime

Member
The footage looks kinda.....arcadey? What happened to Mafia landing on the more serious, realistic side of open world crime action games? The cars flipping and blowing up + catching on fire from seemingly every hit, the way he dives out of the muscle car, the ramp at a police blockade to jump over it, the gratuitous knife kill, popping off grenade launchers in the middle of the street in broad day....What? le sigh. I was really hoping this was going to be a situation where car chases were heavy and realistic, and combat was raw and powerful without being over the top.

Still looking forward to what they can do with the setting and these characters, but I can't say I'm really excited for the tone of the gameplay they showed.

After watching the gameplay video, I agree with this.

Hangar 13 is 2K Czech

That's good to know.
 

DC1

Member
I really like that this seems to be challenging some peoples' expectations of what a Mafia game can be. I'm really interested in playing as a minority during this time period in particular, there's a lot of untapped potential for interesting narrative from a perspective we usually don't get to experience first hand.
And this is the perspective that folks should have.

To this end, I'm hoping that one of 2K's directive is to deliver as close to a brutally honest representations of the atmosphere in the mid to late 60s within the context of the story.

We are living in a remarkable period within gaming where indirect education can be realized. If done with moderate integrity (..and I get it), we would see the birth of a very difficult type of positve socially influential vehicle. Of course the inverse exist.
 
So disappointing. I want a mob game with all the clichés and trappings, not random dude takes on the mob with his motley group of allies. They could've gone full Godfather and had chapters in Sicily etc..
 

ironcreed

Banned
New Orleans inspired city in the 60's? Excitement just went through the roof. Watching the Playstation Access footage and it looks and sounds amazing.
 

Red Hood

Banned
lol, this reminds me so much of the San Andreas thread. Straight down to not being a fan of the jazzy era.

Except I was very hyped for SA, I was really into rap back then, and it didn't disappoint. Alongside VC my favourite GTA. :D

But more on topic, GTA never had a fix set of crime. They could be male, female, atheist, religious, black, white or whatever and it could still work, as long as crime was involved. And crime is simple: on the other side of the law. But I never got that diverse vibe from Mafia, for me it was always Italian Mafia costra nostra Goodfellas style and I loved it it for that single fact. The temptation of fast money and belonging to a family, without consideration to consequences and whatnot. And now they're going completely away from the single thing that I, and I'm sure a lot of others as well, loved.
 
This is giving me Godfather 2 teas tbh.

It looks so.... Dated. It has next gen graphics but the game play looks so last gen. I was expecting some LA Noire realness with some Godfather 1 and Mafia 2 vibes with cars feeling bigger and heavier, car chasing with Tommy guns blazing and cops wrecking havoc across the city being both shady and dirty.

I'm glad there's a sister but it all looks so cheesy and fake serious. This was my most anticipated game and I'm highly disappointed :(

;_____;
 

ironcreed

Banned
I like the character diversity this time and the New Orleans setting in the 60's is just drool worthy. Can't wait to ride around voodoo town and the Bayou jamming to Jimi Hendrix. Such a refreshing change from the typical Italian mob, jazzy New York sort of setting.
 
Organized crime in post-Vietnam New Orleans through the eyes of a Black Vietnam-veteran is such an amazing concept on paper.

Yeah, juxtaposed with the Homefront devs at Gamescom talking about their "revolutionary new concept" of a buzzcut white dude fighting evil Chinese Korean overlords yesterday, this sounds unreal. Companies definitely need to be exploring more directions like this.
 

Lime

Member
So disappointing. I want a mob game with all the clichés and trappings, not random dude takes on the mob with his motley group of allies. They could've gone full Godfather and had chapters in Sicily etc..

There's like a gluttony of those kind of games already. Among them are Mafia 1 and 2.
 

Rndm

Member
Hangar 13 is 2K Czech

2K Czech is actually still more 2K Czech the way I see it.

This is how I understand it: Their studio in Prague got closed only to be merged with the existing studio in Brno. Some devs from both studios also went on to the 2K HQ; and as we know now Hangar 13 to work on Mafia 3.

I wonder how many moved there and what 2K Czech is working on. Haven't heard anything since Top Spin 4 and more recently that story about the merging of the studios.



Also on topic: Not sure how I feel about this game. I was hoping for an actual Mafia game with Italian, Chinese, and Russian mobsters or more of a Godfather vibe (again). This does not seem like it and was kind of what I expected after seeing the teaser image. Some random gangsters becoming their own family and taking over a city is not what I really wanted to see. But hey, a new open world game is good, but they need to convince me with this one.
 

Fractal

Banned
So disappointing. I want a mob game with all the clichés and trappings, not random dude takes on the mob with his motley group of allies. They could've gone full Godfather and had chapters in Sicily etc..
That was one of my biggest disappointments in Mafia 2... after the opening on Sicily, I was really hoping we'd go back, but sadly, it never happened.

Even though I think New Orleans is a promising setting, I too wouldn't mind a classic Mafia tale, there aren't many Mafia focused games around so I'm not fatigued by the cliches, especially if they're well done.
 
For the love of all that is fair and just in the world, can we stop dropping the Vin Diesal card?

That guy isn't the pinnacle of Bad Ass nor is the universal representative of the Afro American light skinned society.


....not necessary directed at you Dabanton.

Does this actually exist?
 

whyman

Member
Looks bad, or rather not like a Mafia game at all. The magic that used to make Mafia feel realistic seems to be gone.
 

Fractal

Banned
There's like a gluttony of those kind of games already. Among them are Mafia 1 and 2.
Could you list some recent examples, please?
All I'm aware of is Omerta, but that one isn't of any interest to me. Can't say I know of any other quality Mafia focused games.
 
Except I was very hyped for SA, I was really into rap back then, and it didn't disappoint. Alongside VC my favourite GTA. :D

But more on topic, GTA never had a fix set of crime. They could be male, female, atheist, religious, black, white or whatever and it could still work, as long as crime was involved. And crime is simple: on the other side of the law. But I never got that diverse vibe from Mafia, for me it was always Italian Mafia costra nostra Goodfellas style and I loved it it for that single fact. The temptation of fast money and belonging to a family, without consideration to consequences and whatnot. And now they're going completely away from the single thing that I, and I'm sure a lot of others as well, loved.
It's challenging that view point. So you expect every game to be about the Italian mob?
 
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