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[Coppanuva]

So let's pause our conversation there then. Coppa should be quite aware of how any why he still has suspicion on him and this is a good opportunity to get more engagement. I've been purposely feeding some players and not others on just gut feeling and I don't want to give guidelines to Coppa for another post. Would you mind making another post Coppa? About anything at all that you think would be beneficial to the tourists.

The reason I sort of backed off is because I'm torn on if Blargonaut and Lord of Castamere's connection is likely to be more beneficial to us or not. when I posted that I initially assumed that anyone not cultist shouldn't be evicted yet, and if we assume LOC's post to be true, Blarg isn't cultist aligned. However, reading it closer...

Blargonaut von Blargington is not Cultist aligned. Take that as you will.

it sounds more like it's a third-team type of thing. I'm torn between whether or not it would be best to get a third team out of the way, or use their information as best we can early on.

The other possibility is they have a "lovers" role relationship. LOC and Blarg might be linked in a way that the death of one leads to the death of the other, and they may have a separate goal of simply both being alive.

 

[Sorian]

I can feel the question coming already "but Sorian, why haven't you made a list?" I promise I will tomorrow evening or early Friday US time. I want to really have my thoughts gathered before I state too much because I won't be going back on what I say or my thoughts until after I see the first vote and the first night phase. I'd like us to be under 24 hours left for voting before I really lock myself in like that.

Of course, I don't mind specific questions, just saying I'm not going to lock in a full list yet.

 

[Sorian]

The reason I sort of backed off is because I'm torn on if Blargonaut and Lord of Castamere's connection is likely to be more beneficial to us or not. when I posted that I initially assumed that anyone not cultist shouldn't be evicted yet, and if we assume LOC's post to be true, Blarg isn't cultist aligned. However, reading it closer...



it sounds more like it's a third-team type of thing. I'm torn between whether or not it would be best to get a third team out of the way, or use their information as best we can early on.

The other possibility is they have a "lovers" role relationship. LOC and Blarg might be linked in a way that the death of one leads to the death of the other, and they may have a separate goal of simply both being alive.

Huh, I didn't expect this connection to be brought up in that way. My only qualm about it is that I still believe Never Forever also solved Blarg's riddle. He hasn't said much about that point in awhile but he heavily hinted at it. Blarg and LoC being in a lovers or siblings role is possible but I would have expected NF to say something if that were the case. They may have reason to hide it but why would a third party?

 

[Rats Off To Ya]

Hell, I'm bored, I'll do a list. Coming right up.

 

[Lord of Castamere]

it sounds more like it's a third-team type of thing. I'm torn between whether or not it would be best to get a third team out of the way, or use their information as best we can early on.

The other possibility is they have a "lovers" role relationship. LOC and Blarg might be linked in a way that the death of one leads to the death of the other, and they may have a separate goal of simply both being alive.

Blargonaut mentioned me, because I was one of the few(and I believe the only cross player) to solve last games riddle.

 

[RetroMG]

I'll be in and out tonight - Got family and church stuff going on. Don't lynch me while I'm gone.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

This is his first post wherein he votes for Neuromancer. This is interesting for a couple of reasons. Neuromancer had already explained himself, and come around on the day one lynch. Lone_Prodigy is the first and only vote since that happened. This vote also came right after Droplet posted a vote summary showing Neuromancer in the lead. What a safe time to jump on a bandwagon, eh?

Neuromancer had the most votes, and I was jumping on a potential bandwagon. And then I went to bed.

Prodigy went a long time posting again. It wasn't until the wagon had turned on himself that he came back and tried to "undo" what he had done. Seems like he was trying to ignore the pressure but it became too strong.

I woke up, saw the bandwagon went nowhere, so I unvoted.

The "I Know You Are, But What Am I?" defense.

I was too hasty in voting, yet Flame_AC chose that opportunity to jump on me. He had already voted for Neuromancer "just to see what happens". It's activity for the sake of activity.

Just a weak defense all around.

How is it weak? As we just saw, a bandwagon on Coppanuva got him to come out and explain himself. A couple more votes on Neuromancer would've gotten more than "oops I'm new" out of him.

Still doesn't offer anything of substance, just cast aspersions upon those who have wronged him.

I already explained Flame_AC's timing, and he explained himself.

After that there's one more similar post and then Prodigy just disappears. His easy bandwagon backfired and now he's trying to lay low and survive the remainder of the day. Everything he's done is indicative of a Cultist or an ineffective Tourist. I have no problem losing either on Day One.

Coppanuva, Fireblend, and OceanicAir have low activity and showed up when mentioned or voted upon.

Besides the above, Tucah and ultron87 haven't been heard from for some time. I haven't seen anything substantive from nin1000. Droplet has posted vote counts but not much else recently.

And I know I unvoted, but I still find Neuromancer fishy because of his newbie defence. The town was moving in a different direction though so I left it.

 

[Werewolf Jones]

What's with the sudden surge in interest for lists of everyone playing? Are we gonna start hugging it out?

 

[Sorian]

What's with the sudden surge in interest for lists of everyone playing? Are we gonna start hugging it out?

Can we hug it out? Is that an option?

 

[Rats Off To Ya]

Flame_AC
Getting a pretty solid Tourist read from you. You've been putting yourself out there a lot and haven't said anything I disagree with so far.

GreatCharleston
I had my suspicions, but as I said I've come around on you. One thing in particular basically clears you in my eyes, for now.

Lone_Prodigy
I've made my case. You're at the top of my "Probably a Cultist" list.

Rats Off To Ya
Tourist as fuck. So Tourist, couldn't possibly be any more Tourist.

Neuromancer
Had a brief bout of bandwagoning, and the entire time reminded me of my own mentality while spectating the previous games. Almost positive you're a newbie Tourist.

Fireblend
You're a mystery. You make long posts, which isn't a scummy thing to do, but you don't say a lot in those posts. Not getting a strong read either way.

Sorian
Solid Tourist.

Capitan
...

Droplet
Haven't said a whole lot. Seems like you're playing it close to the vest, and I can respect that. Not getting a Cultist vibe at all. You share my suspicions of Prodigy, so you're good with me for now.

Never Forever
You haven't stuck out too much, but I think you're a Tourist.

OrangeYouGlad
...

ultron87
You've only made a few posts, but I feel like they've been very pro-Town. Maybe that's wishful thinking, because you're an incredibly strong Town player.

MattAttack
Had a really strong Tourist read on you from the get-go. Your activity fell off a bit, but you've done nothing to change my mind.

Tucah
You're a complete mystery. Low post count, nothing of substance.

Timeaisis
It seems like you're just starting to get into it more, which is good. I privately shared your concerns about Blarg, glad to see you bringing them up.

Darryl
As I said, I like the claim on the item, and the way you did it. Taking everything at face value, seems like a great pro-Town move. You trust me, and I know I'm a Tourist, so that's a plus.

Lord of Castamere
I have concerns about you and Blarg. Probably nothing, but there's plenty to be fishy about. Maybe you're not Cult, but maybe one or both of you are third party. I could take your word on everything but that would be foolish.

Coppanuva
Defense was sensible enough. Not getting a strong Tourist read yet, but I'm not terribly suspicious, either.

RetroMG
You've been relatively active, but safe. No strong opinion.

OceanicAir
Another mystery.

Blargonaut
You're largely playing similarly to the way you were last game, but what a brilliant cover that would be for anti-Tourist behavior. I question how you could possibly have so much "100% verified" info on Day One. I also question the wisdom of hiding it in puzzles that the enemy can decode just as well as any of us.

nin1000
Not much of a factor, but you're playing the same as you were in the previous games wherein you were Town. No read yet.

Vylash
...

 

[Timeaisis]

I'll hug everyone but Blargonaut.

 

[Sorian]

[Rats Off To Ya
Tourist as fuck. So Tourist, couldn't possibly be any more Tourist.

Dear god, so happy work is almost over. Was just going to post an initial impression and be like "how can you be so sure Rats is tourist?" Then I realized you were the one posting. Yeah, I'll read this over and post on it when I get home.

 

[RetroMG]

What's with the sudden surge in interest for lists of everyone playing? Are we gonna start hugging it out?

Apparently your post is fluffy unless it includes a list.

 

[RetroMG]

I'll hug everyone but Blargonaut.

I'd hug Blarg. He usually looks like Mabel, and Mabel is ADORABLE.

 

[Werewolf Jones]

I'll hug everyone but Blargonaut.

The left side: What everyone sees Blargonaut as.

The right side: What I see Blargonaut as.

 

[Sorian]

GreatCharleston
I had my suspicions, but as I said I've come around on you. One thing in particular basically clears you in my eyes, for now.

Lone_Prodigy
I've made my case. You're at the top of my "Probably a Cultist" list.

I only have a couple things to say to this one. First off, I appreciate you posting unprovoked but this is a very softball list. I know we don't have a lot to go on but your list ranges from definite townie to eh, who knows? The only noticeable exception was Prodigy who I left in the quote above. You've gone hard on him and no one else except for Charleston who I also placed in the quotes. This just strikes me as weird.

Anyway, I left Charleston in because I'm curious. Planning to share that thing that clears him to you?

---

If anyone is following the danganronpa thread, Crab has all of my lols.

 

[Rats Off To Ya]

It's a softball list because at this point all we have is softball evidence. Prodigy being at the top of my list means just that: he's at the top of my list. It's Day One, so in all likelihood he's a Tourist.

I won't share about Charleston because he's not under suspicion and honestly, it's not all that impressive. I'm not one to lay all my cards on the table.

 

[RetroMG]

Launchpad may want to step into the Danganronpa thread soon. It's getting weird in there.

 

[Sorian]

It's a softball list because at this point all we have is softball evidence. Prodigy being at the top of my list means just that: he's at the top of my list. It's Day One, so in all likelihood he's a Tourist.

I won't share about Charleston because he's not under suspicion and honestly, it's not all that impressive. I'm not one to lay all my cards on the table.

It only interests me because usually people have to defend themselves this early on. I hadn't noticed anything striking between you too so I'm surprised you'd hold onto something that could assist him later. I'm more just making commentary than saying you are right or wrong to do that.

 

[Sorian]

I've been at work all of today and only have time to read the thread and not much post much. Even if that wasn't the case this is basically how I always play the first few days. It is day 1. We're not going to get anything from "reads". No one is going to slip up at this point or reveal themselves by being "too defensive" or whatever. I just need to make sure I don't get killed (because I'm the one person I know isn't a bad guy) and see how things develop. And going forward I'm never going to be a 10 posts on the same page poster. Just isn't going to happen.

As I said, we should kill someone but I don't really have any opinions on who that should be. The current rotating votes thing is fine to develop some baseline of evidence, but it won't be that useful until someone is actually under threat.

Blarg had my vote because I'm not a fan of the intentionally confusing shtick he was running yesterday. He has been getting better at least by saying somethings of substance, so I could at least wait to see where it goes. I'm definitely still pretty cognizant of how convenient the "Blarg being Blarg" cover story is for someone not on our team to post a bunch of nonsense but not be actually suspicious. But hey:

Unvote: Blargonaut

With that past, I will say, Sorian, your tone of commanding everyone what to do does rub me the wrong way. Seems like you're trying really hard to establish yourself as the leader just by talking this way and trying to bend the thread to your will. Which is fine if you're town, but is also a pretty good way to stay off people's "possibly cultist" list.

Besides that everyone else has had pretty natural reactions to getting randomly accused for reasons ranging from entirely random to pretty specious.

Going to walk away from the thread a bit but we've become a tad complacent for my tastes so I want to leave this here before I go. I accepted this post when it first came around and it was my hope that you would post even slightly more but I see that this was your last post. Honestly, I call bs on it. You waited for a real accusation to roll your way (as real as a day 1 accusation could be) posted enough to make it roll away and then went back to radio silence. Yes, it could be real life but it smells more to me like a scum posting. The main reason is the bolded. I said it earlier and I'll say it again. A shut down of information is nothing except a bad move for the town overall and the bolded is just that, a call for a shut down of communication.

The inactivity mixed with that line puts you on my real naughty list. No games and no prods. I want it front and center right now that I don't trust you in the slightest and my vote is going to reflect that, for right now.

VOTE: ultron87

I left the second half of the post in there because I don't want someone to think I censored away information hoping that people would forget that he called me out. I'm fine with it being there because this isn't a vote to get back at him.

 

[Fireblend]

Man, I don't know what to post so people have a solid read on me. Help a brother out here and give me some hints guys every post I read about me makes me seem reserved or intentionally removed from the conversation, and even though I have no current suspicions to shake off, it makes me feel like I'm not being useful. So I'm gonna be proactive and ask: What do you want from me? Do you want my thoughts on anyone in particular? Any issue you want to hear my thoughts on? Would you feel better about me if I had an active vote?

Let me help you.

The Danganronpa thread is all kinds of fun btw. Really educative too

 

[Sorian]

Man, I don't know what to post so people have a solid read on me. Help a brother out here and give me some hints guys every post I read about me makes me seem reserved or intentionally removed from the conversation, and even though I have no current suspicions to shake off, it makes me feel like I'm not being useful. So I'm gonna be proactive and ask: What do you want from me? Do you want my thoughts on anyone in particular? Any issue you want to hear my thoughts on? Would you feel better about me if I had an active vote?

Let me help you.

The Danganronpa thread is all kinds of fun btw. Really educative too

Ah, real last post. GIve me your thoughts on Nin1000. Anything and everything you've thought so far, if you don't mind.

 

[Blargonaut]

I'll hug everyone but Blargonaut.

So alone, so alone.

I'd hug Blarg. He usually looks like Mabel, and Mabel is ADORABLE.

Get away from me you monster-!

The left side: What everyone sees Blargonaut as.

The right side: What I see Blargonaut as.

Awww, where'd you find this old photo! The owner of that dog was a regular of the ship's restaurant... I miss him a lot.

I miss sleeping on a real bed... now my pillow is a stupid old shank of beef and I can't sleep with all this stupid itchy sand and stupid rocks in my stupid sleeping bag, stupid tent.

What do you miss?

 

[OrangeYouGlad]

I'm here. I would have posted much earlier today, but I wanted to read everything after my last post before replying to anything. I'm not sure if I'm at an advantage or disadvantage having come in at the tail end of everything that has happened up until now.

Either way, I'm going to join the small group that finds Blarg suspicious. It could be the way he's posting but I do agree that having such a large amount of information on Day 1 and posting it in a manner that can be seen by all. I'll say that I wanted this to be a pure first play on a forum, so I didn't go back to read his previous game. For some it feels like they inherently trust that something will come of his information, but not necessarily based entirely of what hes done here. Just doesn't sit right with me. That being said, I do know from experience that there's merit in seeing a potential third party through on the potential of getting good information.

I'm going to be the odd-ball that is finding it very hard to just slide into the "So tourist it hurts" camp for Sorian. The strong guided nature of his demands and how he posts makes me suspicious. Yes, it's stereotypical of an over zealous town, but it's that stereotype that doesn't allow me to just believe it's true. Also...

I can feel the question coming already "but Sorian, why haven't you made a list?" I promise I will tomorrow evening or early Friday US time. I want to really have my thoughts gathered before I state too much because I won't be going back on what I say or my thoughts until after I see the first vote and the first night phase. I'd like us to be under 24 hours left for voting before I really lock myself in like that.

Of course, I don't mind specific questions, just saying I'm not going to lock in a full list yet.

..is odd seeing as he has been demanding from other "suspicious" people their opinion on lists of other people. Like I said, a very strong guiding nature to a lot of his posts. It is nice to have someone leading the charge, but I prefer making sure that charge isn't to our deaths.

I don't believe I have enough information to make a vote that isn't based off conjecture and that goes against the analyst in me. I know day 1 lynching is a necessary evil, but if I said I was confident in a single person to vote for, I'd be lying.

 

[Fireblend]

Ah, real last post. GIve me your thoughts on Nin1000. Anything and everything you've thought so far, if you don't mind.

Sure. He doesn't strike me as a particularly suspicious player. He's been trying to get on people's good sides; most of his recent posts are positive interactions with others: He advised Neuromancer on how to post, commended Retro earlier today for his recent activity, and he was also amongst the ones to encourage Coppa to speak up when suspicion was thrown his way. When darryl brought up the item, he kind of bounced off your ideas to get in some more posts.

I'd say the only thing that breaks the positive pattern is his attitude towards Blarg. I feel like most regard Blarg as a necessary wildcard, probably even a power role since he has shared knowledge with LoC in some way and probably not worth considering lynching today (or even worth defending), but I think nin isn't so willing to agree with that. He spoke for a while against your constant posting too, which could be interpreted as "trying to stop the flow of information", but it strikes me as more of an off-hand comment. Those two are my biggest points against him but I don't think either of them are huge.

People have accused him of writing fluff posts but I dunno, they're just reactions to other stuff like Darryl's item reveal. Unless you consider his day 1 "where's everyone" post an actual slip ip post meant for a secret forum, I'd say if anything he's more of a reactive player so far that's trying to get on everyone's good side than anything else. He hasn't even used his vote so far, right?

 

[Lord of Castamere]

Was anyone able to at least figure out Solute 1? The easy one.

 

[Rats Off To Ya]

Was anyone able to at least figure out Solute 1? The easy one.

I have ideas. There's a lot of room for interpretation with Blarg's puzzles, which makes me wary of the whole endeavor. Last season Palmer thought Blarg was implicating raindoc and it changed the whole course of the game. Blarg was doing no such thing, but it was a perfectly reasonable "solution" to the puzzle.

The more I examine it, the less interest I have in playing "What is Blarg thinking?" in the coming days.

 

[Lord of Castamere]

Solution 1 is pretty straight forward. Can I breakdown Solution 1, Blarg? That seems to the "sample puzzle" anyway.

 

[Blargonaut]

You wound me, Rats. I'm a sailor of my word. I told you, stick with me and I'll get you through this, Mr. "Unconditional Trust"!

Fine, go ahead, Mr. Castamere. Indulge their private thoughts with a public execution. They'd do the same for me.

LIGHTS

DRAMA

 

[Sorian]

..is odd seeing as he has been demanding from other "suspicious" people their opinion on lists of other people. Like I said, a very strong guiding nature to a lot of his posts. It is nice to have someone leading the charge, but I prefer making sure that charge isn't to our deaths.

I'm happy to see you post Orange, you've joined us early enough that I don't find you as suspicious as I initially expected I would. I hope you'll stay pretty active until the time voting ends now? I would just like you to make a good initial read of you and it requires some more viewing of your ideas. I highlighted this part of your post because I admit that I have given people partial lists to respond back to. That is slightly different than what I am holding off on. I've never asked anyone for a full list of all players up until this point (I believe Nin and Rats volunteered that themselves) because I knew I had no intention of posting my own yet. The reason is what I said before, once I post it those will be the assumptions I really work off of until day 2 begins.

Sure. He doesn't strike me as a particularly suspicious player. He's been trying to get on people's good sides; most of his recent posts are positive interactions with others: He advised Neuromancer on how to post, commended Retro earlier today for his recent activity, and he was also amongst the ones to encourage Coppa to speak up when suspicion was thrown his way. When darryl brought up the item, he kind of bounced off your ideas to get in some more posts.

I'd say the only thing that breaks the positive pattern is his attitude towards Blarg. I feel like most regard Blarg as a necessary wildcard, probably even a power role since he has shared knowledge with LoC in some way and probably not worth considering lynching today (or even worth defending), but I think nin isn't so willing to agree with that. He spoke for a while against your constant posting too, which could be interpreted as "trying to stop the flow of information", but it strikes me as more of an off-hand comment. Those two are my biggest points against him but I don't think either of them are huge.

People have accused him of writing fluff posts but I dunno, they're just reactions to other stuff like Darryl's item reveal. Unless you consider his day 1 "where's everyone" post an actual slip ip post meant for a secret forum, I'd say if anything he's more of a reactive player so far that's trying to get on everyone's good side than anything else. He hasn't even used his vote so far, right?

Thank you for humoring me. You make a similar read to what I would have said. That could be good if we are on the same team but bad if you are a cultist. I did give you some crap for not posting as much and taking an advisory type role from the background but I see where you are coming from and I think yours is a necessary role for a good town.

 

[Sorian]

*waits patiently for LoC's next post*

 

[Lord of Castamere]

*waits patiently for LoC's next post*

I was joking. I couldn't figure it out either. HA

SOLUTE1: D D... Halve #2nd = Co M M an D D Post #21, then div. by 7 = 3 WARNING: Minimum number of Cultists in bound, verified

Who are we hunting? Cultists? M ad M en? D on D raper?

 

[OrangeYouGlad]

I'm happy to see you post Orange, you've joined us early enough that I don't find you as suspicious as I initially expected I would. I hope you'll stay pretty active until the time voting ends now? I would just like you to make a good initial read of you and it requires some more viewing of your ideas. I highlighted this part of your post because I admit that I have given people partial lists to respond back to. That is slightly different than what I am holding off on. I've never asked anyone for a full list of all players up until this point (I believe Nin and Rats volunteered that themselves) because I knew I had no intention of posting my own yet. The reason is what I said before, once I post it those will be the assumptions I really work off of until day 2 begins.

You're right, they aren't 1:1 and it could very well have been an honest mistake in your pursuit for information. I'm not willing to shrug off my suspicions, but I know it's not solid enough to based a vote off of and that's part of why I didn't pick Blarg or yourself for a lynch vote.

I'll definitely be keeping active from now on. Mishap with my subscription emails and a long weekend led me to forget until Zatoth nudged me through PM.

 

[Sorian]

I was joking. I couldn't figure it out either. HA

SOLUTE1: D D... Halve #2nd = Co M M an D D Post #21, then div. by 7 = 3 WARNING: Minimum number of Cultists in bound, verified

I seem to have acuired a headache again.

You're right, they aren't 1:1 and it could very well have been an honest mistake in your pursuit for information. I'm not willing to shrug off my suspicions, but I know it's not solid enough to based a vote off of and that's part of why I didn't pick Blarg or yourself for a lynch vote.

I'll definitely be keeping active from now on. Mishap with my subscription emails and a long weekend led me to forget until Zatoth nudged me through PM.

Do you mind coming up to speed just for the sake of completion? What are your thoughts on Darryl's item? Any of the bandwagon situations stand out to you? Anyone else interest you as much as Blarg or I?

Also, I'm surprised you called that a mistake on my part. I chose my words very carefully there because I only ask questions that I, myself, am ready to share.

 

[Flame_AC]

Catching up from my car trip and about to head to bed, I'll try and make one post before I head to bed.

 

[Flame_AC]

I'm PMing Zatoth a question about what I'm trying to post, so unless he responds quickly, my post will be delayed until sometime tomorrow.

Just so everyone knows where I'm going though, and this is not yet a vote, Blargonaut.

For the time being, my vote is off the table.

UNVOTE: RetroMG

Also, I'm touched at LoC's thought that I am too clean and that he wants/is expecting a slip up, I don't believe, barring some insanity, that that will be happening.

And to address Retro's comment on me in his list: Aggression, whether you see it as bloodthirsty or not, is what will give us usable information for the next few days. Odds are, someone here is going to die, more then likely a Tourist, me pushing for a lynch against people isn't because I want them to die, but instead because I want everyone else, except for the Cultists, to survive.

 

[RetroMG]

That's two parts of Blarg's puzzle that revolve around that post. That and Blarg's 3rd section which references his response to me. Why? What are you doing, Blarg?

And to address Retro's comment on me in his list: Aggression, whether you see it as bloodthirsty or not, is what will give us usable information for the next few days. Odds are, someone here is going to die, more then likely a Tourist, me pushing for a lynch against people isn't because I want them to die, but instead because I want everyone else, except for the Cultists, to survive.

That's reasonable. No offense was meant, and I'm not pushing a vote on you. Just thought your stye felt a little more aggressive, and it was worth noting.

 

[RetroMG]

Thanks for unvoting me, BTW.

 

[OrangeYouGlad]

I seem to have acuired a headache again.



Do you mind coming up to speed just for the sake of completion? What are your thoughts on Darryl's item? Any of the bandwagon situations stand out to you? Anyone else interest you as much as Blarg or I?

Also, I'm surprised you called that a mistake on my part. I chose my words very carefully there because I only ask questions that I, myself, am ready to share.

Darryl's item seemed to go both ways for me. As everyone has said, it's a bold play because so much can go wrong if no one else corroborates the existence of it. The flip side to that is it could simply be a distraction we're to focus on. Give us very minimal information, requires us to wait to confirm its existence and could conveniently kill someone that "uses" it.

As an aside It's worth pointing out that in Darryl's first post about the item he only lists the night eviction block and then goes on to say he hopes no one ever uses it on him.

I think the bandwagons might prove helpful in the later days and they served their purpose of getting people to talk. I quite literally powered through the whole thread this afternoon, so I did have to go back and read through the posts surrounding the bandwagons and found two things of interest. 1) Everyone was expected to justify their votes.. except this one and 2) when asked why you shouldn't be suspected is "because someone else is" an acceptable reply?

Heading to bed! Look forward to getting some info based on what I've posted in the morning.

 

[Fireblend]

Glad to see you posting, Orange. If you were indeed inactive because of subscription shenanigans and plan to stay active from now on, that might actually work to our benefit, you might provide some fresh insight into the state of the game since you're the one with the most distance between you and the what has happened so far.

That said, I can't avoid commenting that I find your take on Blarg and Sorian very daring. Specially Sorian, since he's been the main discussion driver so far and one of the least contested players. What's funny is that I think if there was a second player with Sorian's "post style" I bet both would be at each other's throat, we just don't have anyone as inquisitive as Sorian right now to challenge him (as I was typing this the thread updated with your latest post, hah, had to re-write it pretty much).

To clarify, I don't think Sorian's post rate or his play style are any cause for concern, he's clarified what he's doing several times and I'm inclined to believe him - I think we need him, even - but I think the status he's earned from those actions and the idea that challenging him is anti-tourist because it means trying to stop the discussion he generates may be stopping people from approaching him as they do other players.

 

[Blargonaut]

Forget waiting for the new page, I'm posting this now. My apologies if you were constructing something; I hope this adds value to your property. However, I see the tide, and I'm not going to stand here and be swept away as easily as the last.

It takes perception and conviction to be my anti-Riddler. I may look the same, but I've learned more.

I need to secure my future from this island. You gormless goons may choose to smother me in my sleep, make it easy for yourselves. BORING. You believe that killing me at Night to easily discover my role info the next morning will help your petty little faction in the long run? Then go ahead, have your little asinine premature twitch of cowardly satisfaction and so let me escape the insignificance of the inhabitants of this worthless isle, because insignificance and worthlessness is all you'll be proving by killing me at Night. Go ahead, make this contest of wits meaningless.

I'm not afraid of the dark. I've placed myself up here.

If you find me distracting and "non-contributing", then step up here with words, and justify killing me based off my play-style thus far. I dare any one and all of you. Face the audience, or stay it. Ask yourself: will it be more "conducive towards meaningful pro-Town contribution" with me gone? Yet, I do nothing but share and make you talk. I generate conversation, and despite it being all about me, I'm not as intrusive as I and you've led yourselves to believe. I am a rally point. If you were truly Tourist, pro-Town, you'd have [REDACTED]. Ignorance can be purposeful too; if all else recedes from the subject, it reveals the desperate.

I'm here to read, share information and my deduced intel, win and then have off this water-locked rock. I'm only bringing the worthy among you, those who can handle the voices of my puzzles, with me to victory. The longer you keep me alive, the more you learn. The relationship can be simple.

It is still early. To those who solve and interpret; feel free to share what you've worked out, but do so at your own peril and mine. In the days to come, sharing certain pieces of info may undermine my efforts towards winning, and thus yours. Be smart if you choose to play with me. You are my fingers. Bless the dice, my face is altered and unique now, with no possessor; so... let's try this all again:

If you want to unequivocally prove yourself as a short-sighted, feeble* drone, then do it, Night-kill me. Lose that iota of respect and take your infamy with you to the anticlimax. I'm wholly prepared to give that to you.

But, if you want to silence me like a true killer, then speak up in the Day. Convince the rest to vote me out with your words. Incite the hounds, release them upon me. Earn it. Everything means something. Earn your pray.


Is the reward of fleeting public glory not better than that of fleeting private cowardice?

Kill me in the daylight, if you think it will save you and your friends.




TL;DR -

Go, discuss, act. Go on.

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Did you know that 'feeble' is a palindrome for 'el beef'?

To Rats; Also, Palmer misinterpreting my intel drops totally wasn't my fault. It was his interpretation, after all. It was unfortunate that I was a Town officer then, but it's different now. A different world. I can't help it if my modern art masterpieces are veiled with vague abstractions yet contain singular, underlying truths in their hearts.

To Mr. Castamere; ???

 

[Werewolf Jones]

To clarify, I don't think Sorian's post rate or his play style are any cause for concern, he's clarified what he's doing several times and I'm inclined to believe him - I think we need him, even - but I think the status he's earned from those actions and the idea that challenging him is anti-tourist because it means trying to stop the discussion he generates may be stopping people from approaching him as they do other players.

I think his overall dominance and dare I say assertive means of posting seems to have lead you completely submissive in his wake and you he may even be against you or both of you are working together in secret. You shouldn't rely on anyone at all, not this early on in the game, if anything the way he's posted has left you into a lax sense of security around him because of how active he is and quizing everyone else. You want to have faith in him, you believe in him but never forget, TRUST NO ONE.

I ain't saying this to shut down his actions, he can keep on soldiering on but he may just have you where he wants you and with your trust in him he knows he can spin the game how he wants. Not that this is the truth, it's just a possibility. You don't trust others, you respect them. Same goes for everyone else.

 

[Fireblend]

Oh, I wasn't defending Sorian. I could have definitely phrased that better if that's what you perceived. I said I think he's doing good work for us that on this day is the kind of persistent "poking" that we need, not that he's one of us for sure. I don't think I could trust anyone 100% today, if not for most of the game's duration.

If anything, I still think of how several people have said "if I was mafia, that's how I'd play it" when describing their reads of him, and as I said, I think it's dangerous that he's earned enough cred for himself to make it seem like challenging him is equal to an attempt to stop that poking, making him an unlikely target for those scared that throwing suspicion at him may backfire.

 

[Blargonaut]

That's two parts of Blarg's puzzle that revolve around that post. That and Blarg's 3rd section which references his response to me. Why? What are you doing, Blarg?

Nothing much really, just setting up my retro MG.

 

[Werewolf Jones]

Oh, I wasn't defending Sorian. I could have definitely phrased that better if that's what you perceived. I said I think he's doing good work for us that on this day is the kind of persistent "poking" that we need, not that he's one of us for sure. I don't think I could trust anyone 100% today, if not for most of the game's duration.

If anything, I still think of how several people have said "if I was mafia, that's how I'd play it" when describing their reads of him, and as I said, I think it's dangerous that he's earned enough cred for himself to make it seem like challenging him is equal to an attempt to stop that poking, making him an unlikely target for those scared that throwing suspicion at him may backfire.

With how bold his posting is he might end up getting taken out first and that'll be a big dent in the deduction squad. When more people go then the game will change and his posting style might end up altering or even having less to say.

@Blarg's post

You have confidence in your words and saying that we have the chance to slay you and they you want it that we won't. Ain't no way anyone is gonna rise together to combat that. Your mind games have everyone bedazzled.

 

[Fireblend]

By the way, here's a preview of something I'm working on. This might be of interest to some:

Page 14:
{'Sorian': 16, 'nin1000': 7, 'RetroMG': 6, 'Matt Attack': 4, 'Blargonaut': 3, 'Lord of Castamere': 3, 'Zatoth': 2, 'Coppanuva': 2, 'Fireblend': 2, 'Never Forever': 2, 'Flame_AC': 1, 'Darryl': 1, 'Timeaisis': 1}
Page 15:
{'Sorian': 15, 'Blargonaut': 5, 'RetroMG': 5, 'nin1000': 5, 'Lord of Castamere': 4, 'Neuromancer': 3, 'Zatoth': 2, 'Coppanuva': 2, 'Timeaisis': 2, 'Fireblend': 2, 'Never Forever': 2, 'Droplet': 1, 'Rats Off To Ya': 1, 'GreatCharleston': 1}
Page 16:
{'Sorian': 11, 'RetroMG': 6, 'Fireblend': 4, 'Rats Off To Ya': 4, 'Blargonaut': 4, 'Lord of Castamere': 4, 'GreatCharleston': 4, 'OrangeYouGlad': 3, 'Flame_AC': 2, 'Coppanuva': 1, 'Timeaisis': 1, 'Lone_Prodigy': 1}

Global since page 6:
{'Sorian': 128, 'RetroMG': 47, 'Flame_AC': 39, 'Lord of Castamere': 37, 'nin1000': 35, 'Blargonaut': 33, 'Fireblend': 28, 'Rats Off To Ya': 24, 'Darryl': 22, 'GreatCharleston': 21, 'Droplet': 21, 'Matt Attack': 18, 'Zatoth': 16, 'Neuromancer': 14, 'Never Forever': 11, 'Timeaisis': 11, 'Coppanuva': 7, 'Lone_Prodigy': 7, 'OceanicAir': 5, 'Tucah': 5, 'ultron87': 4, 'Crab': 3, 'OrangeYouGlad': 3, 'LaunchpadMcQ': 2, 'Haly': 2, 'YesNOnoNOYes': 1, 'kgtrep': 1}

I'm hoping to have some more in-depth statistics soon, including post distribution for players by day or maybe even hours, as well as prettier ways to show them, instead of this ugly raw data. If anything, it might be fun to look at, and hey, it might help eventually. If anyone has any suggestions about what kind of statistics you'd like to see, let me know!

 

[Zatoth]

PSA: I may have to replace up to 4 players. Two of them may stay in the game. Have to talk some more with them.

I'll let you know once I have more information.

 

[Sorian]

I think the bandwagons might prove helpful in the later days and they served their purpose of getting people to talk. I quite literally powered through the whole thread this afternoon, so I did have to go back and read through the posts surrounding the bandwagons and found two things of interest. 1) Everyone was expected to justify their votes.. except this one and 2) when asked why you shouldn't be suspected is "because someone else is" an acceptable reply?

Heading to bed! Look forward to getting some info based on what I've posted in the morning.

Thanks for all of that. I'll address the two links in this part of your post. For Darryl's, I completely expect that to come up later in the game. I think it went largely uncontested at the time because we are kind of being forced to assume that Darryl is a tourist at the moment. His item claim protects him from a day 1 kill (though makes him a better target for night 1). Honestly, I saw the post and should have said something but it was helping my cause at the time and once the issue with Coppa was resolved, Darryl's post fell off my radar. As for my post that you linked, yeah, that's really my only defense on day 1. And until I feel it absolutely necessary to reveal my role or even hint at it, my defense is always going to be "I'm sorry you find me suspicious, here's why I think you are reading that wrong and here's why maybe I shouldn't be your top priority because this other guy is really up to no good." It's how the game is and in the example you pulled from, no one put a real suspicion on me, their request was that I say some of the things I had been pushing other people to reveal.

That said, I can't avoid commenting that I find your take on Blarg and Sorian very daring. Specially Sorian, since he's been the main discussion driver so far and one of the least contested players. What's funny is that I think if there was a second player with Sorian's "post style" I bet both would be at each other's throat, we just don't have anyone as inquisitive as Sorian right now to challenge him (as I was typing this the thread updated with your latest post, hah, had to re-write it pretty much).

To clarify, I don't think Sorian's post rate or his play style are any cause for concern, he's clarified what he's doing several times and I'm inclined to believe him - I think we need him, even - but I think the status he's earned from those actions and the idea that challenging him is anti-tourist because it means trying to stop the discussion he generates may be stopping people from approaching him as they do other players.

In this post I want to point out two things. First off, please challenge me and please suspect me. The only person I can't suspect or push in this game is myself. I know my role and I know I'm a tourist but the goal is for everyone else to know that. To do that, I have to be challenged and people have to see how I react and what I bring to the table.
The second point I'd like to mention is:

I think his overall dominance and dare I say assertive means of posting seems to have lead you completely submissive in his wake and you he may even be against you or both of you are working together in secret. You shouldn't rely on anyone at all, not this early on in the game, if anything the way he's posted has left you into a lax sense of security around him because of how active he is and quizing everyone else. You want to have faith in him, you believe in him but never forget, TRUST NO ONE.

I ain't saying this to shut down his actions, he can keep on soldiering on but he may just have you where he wants you and with your trust in him he knows he can spin the game how he wants. Not that this is the truth, it's just a possibility. You don't trust others, you respect them. Same goes for everyone else.

basically what Charleston said here. Don't defend me or anyone else. Let people come up with their own defense. Except for Cultists, I would think no one else knows each others roles (might be some weird role that got info day 1? idk) but the only defense posts that I can see making sense at this stage of the game is for Blarg. He's hidden himself quite well behind puzzles and those that have solved it might have reason to trust him, I don't know. Just my two cents though, barring something weird like Blarg's case, there isn't much reason to come to anyone's defense on day 1.

Now I don't really think you were defending me as the player but you were defending the role I had taken up as a necessary piece of this game to gather info. You alluded to such later but it will come off that you were defending me and someone will use that against you later or me if it's found that you're a cultist.

 

[Sorian]

By the way, here's a preview of something I'm working on. This might be of interest to some:

Page 14:
{'Sorian': 16, 'nin1000': 7, 'RetroMG': 6, 'Matt Attack': 4, 'Blargonaut': 3, 'Lord of Castamere': 3, 'Zatoth': 2, 'Coppanuva': 2, 'Fireblend': 2, 'Never Forever': 2, 'Flame_AC': 1, 'Darryl': 1, 'Timeaisis': 1}
Page 15:
{'Sorian': 15, 'Blargonaut': 5, 'RetroMG': 5, 'nin1000': 5, 'Lord of Castamere': 4, 'Neuromancer': 3, 'Zatoth': 2, 'Coppanuva': 2, 'Timeaisis': 2, 'Fireblend': 2, 'Never Forever': 2, 'Droplet': 1, 'Rats Off To Ya': 1, 'GreatCharleston': 1}
Page 16:
{'Sorian': 11, 'RetroMG': 6, 'Fireblend': 4, 'Rats Off To Ya': 4, 'Blargonaut': 4, 'Lord of Castamere': 4, 'GreatCharleston': 4, 'OrangeYouGlad': 3, 'Flame_AC': 2, 'Coppanuva': 1, 'Timeaisis': 1, 'Lone_Prodigy': 1}

Global since page 6:
{'Sorian': 128, 'RetroMG': 47, 'Flame_AC': 39, 'Lord of Castamere': 37, 'nin1000': 35, 'Blargonaut': 33, 'Fireblend': 28, 'Rats Off To Ya': 24, 'Darryl': 22, 'GreatCharleston': 21, 'Droplet': 21, 'Matt Attack': 18, 'Zatoth': 16, 'Neuromancer': 14, 'Never Forever': 11, 'Timeaisis': 11, 'Coppanuva': 7, 'Lone_Prodigy': 7, 'OceanicAir': 5, 'Tucah': 5, 'ultron87': 4, 'Crab': 3, 'OrangeYouGlad': 3, 'LaunchpadMcQ': 2, 'Haly': 2, 'YesNOnoNOYes': 1, 'kgtrep': 1}

I'm hoping to have some more in-depth statistics soon, including post distribution for players by day or maybe even hours, as well as prettier ways to show them, instead of this ugly raw data. If anything, it might be fun to look at, and hey, it might help eventually. If anyone has any suggestions about what kind of statistics you'd like to see, let me know!

Oh, this is good by the way. I don't know that post count is super super important but I was going to do something similar (on a much smaller scale) at some point but you seem to have it

 

[ultron87]

Some people the dice felt like me looking at.

Neuromancer - Could be playing up the "new player" role to hide in the background. Was initially one of the few trying to push No Evict (which really does make sense when you first start and you're town), but that could be coming from encouragement from Cultist brethren to at least give it a shot. There was basically no initial push for it in this game, so I'd kind of expect a truly new player would've seen that no one else was arguing for this and not try and go for it. Basically faded into the background as soon as the heat was off. Despite that seems to be watching the thread fairly closely since he welcomed Vylash very quickly.

Timeaisis - I've played with good ole Time-Is-A-Sis in both games. Had a pretty varying level of engagement in those two games despite being town in both, so nothing to get from that. Most substantive post so far has been attempting to analyze Blarg's nonsense. Which makes sense but I don't necessarily agree with the initial premise of Blarg having a role at all.

Lord of Castamere - Was claiming to understand what is up with Blargonaut, says Blarg isn't cult aligned, but doesn't explain fully. Seems suspicious. If you can figure it out the cult probably can, especially since they can collaborate on the solution in a way we can't. Later says he didn't actually figure it out? Lots of posts about the puzzle. Also tried to steer the pressure away from Neuromancer and Lone Prodigy acting as a sort "defender of the new player". Could be genuine, but also something to keep in mind as things go forward since it might be running interference for an ally.

Vylash - Came up on the random.org roll, but I assume is getting replaced.

I guess right now I'm still pretty suspicious of Blargonaut and, due to their very intentional association, LoC. The whole puzzle thing and the way a large portion of the group seems to have assumed it is genuine based on the player's reputation really feels bad over here. But it gives something to talk about, so *shrug*. It also doesn't seem very likely that two cultists would tie themselves together so clearly.

Might write about a few more people at lunch.