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Call of Cthulhu Mafia |OT| Nuts on this island taste insane! Yum Yum!

VOTE: Blargonaut

I believe we were actually looking for information Blarg, information that you are to provide on a golden platter.

Heading to bed soon, and want to get this in so my position is known. Don't lynch him while I'm gone.

I discovered that you can preserve a steak a bit longer if you marinate it. Adds to the flavour too. You'd think the chef would have told their junior this before, right? Anyway, if any of you found some herbs or whatever it is that grows around this stupid island that doesn't make you break out in rashes all over and in, I'd love to have it. The local witch doctor loaned me some to get started, but it's not enough to mask the rot, yet.

Please though, no peppers. From what I recall from my time in the galley, some of the guests can't stand too much heat mixed in the spice rub.


Do you still not trust me?
 
I'm starting to doubt what Blarg is again SK, Vigilante, Protector, it's very confusing and distracting.

If I knew 100% that Blarg killed LP, I might push for Blarg to stay another day. Honestly I think Blarg dying today is more beneficial to Town, for the information alone.
 

Flame_AC

Member
I'm personally thinking that the theory of Blarg getting blocked, or whoever he targeted (some say me) being protected is more likely. It seems like there may be an additional person who killed at night and ended up covering Blarg's tracks.
 
I'm personally thinking that the theory of Blarg getting blocked, or whoever he targeted (some say me) being protected is more likely. It seems like there may be an additional person who killed at night and ended up covering Blarg's tracks.

Which makes killing Blarg an even wiser move. We don't need 3 killers roaming at night.
 
I'm starting to doubt what Blarg is again SK, Vigilante, Protector, it's very confusing and distracting.

If I knew 100% that Blarg killed LP, I might push for Blarg to stay another day. Honestly I think Blarg dying today is more beneficial to Town, for the information alone.

Nice try, but I'm not going to claim responsibility. Gotta keep my fingers clean, ya know.
 
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nin1000

Banned
nothing more blarg ? thats it ? You want most of the players to just jump onto your train and forget about you and just vote for coppa ?
 

Sorian

Banned
Found the post where Sorian points the finger at me. I started further down the page when I came back this evening.

I don't really know what to say to this. I voted on L_P because his bandwagon argument and his posting history (as pointed out by Rats) seemed suspicious. I did feel bad when he accused me of bandwagoning with Rats, but I still felt good about getting rid of him.

Then you brought up Tucah. You had a solid point about L_P being new and inexperienced, which could have explained away his issues, whereas Tucah had gone inactive and, in my mind, should have known better.

In the end, I trusted your analysis of Tucah, Sorian. You seem to be very together in the early game, which is not my strength. I do wish I'd stuck with L_P, but at least it still worked out somehow.

I'll acknowledge that your theory about Mafia voting and then getting off does make sense, although I don't know that I would be willing to try it. It's a risky move, since a bandwagon can happen easily and the town gets more information whenevwr they pin down a mafia player.

But it has happened before, so it makes sense to chase it.

But you are barking up the wrong tree, I'm town.

Fair, I have to bring up the possibility though. While it is a risky strategy, it is one that a bold cultist would try to shift suspicion off of themselves for awhile. By itself, it's hardly damning evidence but it's worth keeping in mind for the days ahead, it could be the beginning of a pattern. With that being said though, it looks like the day is forming itself after a bit of fumbling in the dark.

I was holding this back for a bit, but if Mr. O'Naut wants to start the party early, far be it from me to be an ungracious guest.

Coppanuva has been doing his best to fly under the radar and appear to us all to be a good little Tourist, but I submit that through a certain gaze his actions appear most suspicious.

Right off the bat an attempt to limit the scope of our investigations. Is there something there that Coppa doesn't want us to find? Is he afraid there's something there that we could find? Curious.

Here we have some speculation about the Time Cube. Make note of it.

A suggestion that we should be looking for voting patterns to root out Cultists. Not a bad idea, unless it's coming from a Cultist trying to send us down the wrong path. This will be important later.

Here, after some prodding, Coppa gives his reads from a list that, as LoC put it, was fed to him. I won't belabor the circumstances around the list, but I'll examine the list itself (I've remove three names, which were uncontroversial Tourist reads). More about Darryl and his item, and a casual suggestion that whoever gets it next should definitely claim right away to save poor little Darryl's life.

He also raises questions about Blargonaut and LoC. Now, this isn't exactly damning evidence, because all of us raised questions about Blargonaut and LoC. But if they are truly both Town, as I now suspect, it would be in the Cult's best interest to keep us questioning each other. This post is the second notable indictment of Blarg that we saw in the thread, coming hot off the heels of Timeaisis' earlier post.

Boy, he sure seems really interested in that item, don't you think? And so excited about somebody claiming it on Day Two, to boot!

More tying of Blarg and LoC's fates, which is followed up in the next post where he explicitly questions their allegiance:

Now here's where I come in.

This was around Coppa's most active period in the thread, and he was good about getting back to anyone speaking directly do him, but I never received a reply to my offer about Prodigy. In fact, Coppa never comments on Prodigy, to anybody. It's almost as if he's being careful not to. As Sorian pointed out, Prodigy wasn't so careful in the reverse, because in the short time we knew him, Prodigy was anything but careful.

Coppa then had the interaction with Blargonaut posted above, and afterward he's a ghost. He had no more votes on himself. Mission accomplished. But wait!

At the beginning of the day I said that Prodigy's unmasking made the Tucah vote more interesting. But looking at the list of votes on Tucah, it's almost entirely names that I read as solid Tourists. Almost entirely.

He says he's voting on Tucah to keep Blarg alive, but somebody else (I'll give you one guess) was in the top three with over two hours left until the deadline. Plenty of time for momentum to shift in a last minute campaign.

And then there's the curious part about his name being the only one that sticks out at me. My initial instinct was that at least two Cultists were involved in the Tucah vote, if not more. But Coppanuva has shown himself to be aware of how incriminating it is to vote alongside fellow Mafia. At the same time, the popular vote at the end of the day is a brilliant place for a single Cultist to hide in plain sight; just one o' the guys. If you can turn the tide away from a compatriot while doing so, all the better!

And that brings us to Day Two.

Golly, Blarg sure is still suspicious. By the way, anyone gonna claim that Time Cube?

So, what I'm trying to say is:

VOTE: Coppanuva

These are all valid points, I don't necessarily believe all of it is damning. The item, for example, is probably of interest to both tourists and cultists alike so I don't think that is going to lead us anywhere. On the other hand, the fact that Coppa strayed from mentioning Prodigy at all is very telling. Protecting a cultist making a bad play is almost impossible and would just lead the trail back to yourself but he also wouldn't want to contribute in anyway towards evidence or votes against a partner. It's a fair assessment and this could end up saving Blarg for the day. Mix that with my post below:

I'm going to go to bed but I just wanted to leave this here as a possible talking point while I'm gone.



I took a read through all of Prodigy's posts and this is the only time he defended anyone. He was responding to Darryl here so he wasn't so much defending them as using them to try to appeal to us that Darryl acts like an ass sometimes (like we needed evidence of this) but I did find it a little odd that he felt the need to throw in that he felt the Droplet vote was good but didn't like the Coppa vote. A few of us did have suspicions of Coppa on day 1 and that could very well be something worth revisiting.

<3 you Darryl

And I'd make a case that there was a real connection here, Prodigy's posts are all about saving his own skin but this post is the only time he put mild disdain on someone's vote and that vote was for Coppa. I get the strong feeling that the end vote today is going to be Coppa vs. Blarg. I'm going to hold my vote because someone did promise to get back to me but it's currently Coppa (3) vs. Blarg (2). Keep in mind that today's vote ends early if anyone reaches 11 votes and again, today should not end early. We want as much info and discussion time as possible.
 

Sorian

Banned
btw, shout-out to STRANGERS! You may be washed-up but you're still relevant to me ;)

#FreshMeet

Would you like some more marmalade on your buttered scone, Mr. Attack?

Why, certainly, Mr. Mancer, certainly! This weather sure is a right scorcher, phwoar!

Oh, don't be ridiculous. It's the humidity, you know. Here you go, Ms. Droplet; it's Earl Grey, steeped.

*pours tea*

I'll point out this string of posts as well. Say what you will about Blarg but he is still trying to help town. All of these are people who have either not contributed since the day started or have done very little. We do need everyone to speak up on their thoughts so, in that respect, Blarg is targeting the right people to prod.
 

RetroMG

Member
Well, I need to read the most recent posts, but I think Blarg just gave us (counts) Eleven fairly compelling reasons to vote for him.

More later, hopefully when my niece goes to sleep.
 

Sorian

Banned
Hah, Sora read something totally different into all that. Interesting.

Ah, I'm curious how you read that now. My Blarganese isn't up to snuff so this could be a hit list or something else entirely, I just notice that it lined up fairly well with my own list of people I'd like to hear from.
 

nin1000

Banned
This was around Coppa's most active period in the thread, and he was good about getting back to anyone speaking directly do him, but I never received a reply to my offer about Prodigy. In fact, Coppa never comments on Prodigy, to anybody. It's almost as if he's being careful not to. As Sorian pointed out, Prodigy wasn't so careful in the reverse, because in the short time we knew him, Prodigy was anything but careful.,
Blarg sure is still suspicious. By the way, anyone gonna claim that Time Cube?

So, what I'm trying to say is:

VOTE: Coppanuva

I never thought of it that he could be teammate of Lone_Prodigy. I am going to cast a vote for him to see what he has to say about that.

Regarding blarg, fuck me i still cant stand him and i still find him suspicious as hell but coppa just came one inch above him

VOTE:Coppanuva
 

Coppanuva

Member
Oh boy a long post about me, I'm honored Rats but you're barking up the wrong tree here. Now that I'm awake again I'll tell you why your theory is wrong.

Coppanuva has been doing his best to fly under the radar and appear to us all to be a good little Tourist, but I submit that through a certain gaze his actions appear most suspicious.



Right off the bat an attempt to limit the scope of our investigations. Is there something there that Coppa doesn't want us to find? Is he afraid there's something there that we could find? Curious.

And what did you find? Was there anything suspicious pre-game that works? When I said that, it was in response to people saying we should vote based on total vote-count in the thread, which would be taking into account the first 3-4 pages of pre-game "Hey guys it's fun to be on this island!" and .gifs of cthulu's and jokes about that. If you're basing a decision on post count I think removing the non-game related count is important.

Here we have some speculation about the Time Cube. Make note of it.

A suggestion that we should be looking for voting patterns to root out Cultists. Not a bad idea, unless it's coming from a Cultist trying to send us down the wrong path. This will be important later.

Speculation about the (At the time) most interesting and newest mechanic in the game? How damming. The suggestion for voting patterns is something I think is important to note for people who are less experienced in werewolf. And something you've even pointed to today. After all, you said this about the recent LP kill:

From memory, RetroMG and Never Forever also had votes on him at some point, both at times when a bandwagon was imminent. You're all in my circle of trust.

So I'm a cultist for talking about how pairs of votes might be used, and those 2 are innocent because of how they voted? I get that it's slightly different because that would be a vote on one of their own, just pointing out the inconsistency.

Here, after some prodding, Coppa gives his reads from a list that, as LoC put it, was fed to him. I won't belabor the circumstances around the list, but I'll examine the list itself (I've remove three names, which were uncontroversial Tourist reads). More about Darryl and his item, and a casual suggestion that whoever gets it next should definitely claim right away to save poor little Darryl's life.

And? If Darryl's item doesn't exist what do you plan to do about him? I'm defending him here, and I still think he's likely a tourist. But at the same time there's no proof ANYTHING he said was true, all I wanted was proof. I'm also still unsure what you think the cultists can do to a tourist holding the orb given that Darryl lived through the night perfectly sound.

He also raises questions about Blargonaut and LoC. Now, this isn't exactly damning evidence, because all of us raised questions about Blargonaut and LoC. But if they are truly both Town, as I now suspect, it would be in the Cult's best interest to keep us questioning each other. This post is the second notable indictment of Blarg that we saw in the thread, coming hot off the heels of Timeaisis' earlier post.

I raised questions about them because their relationship at the time looked very odd. It was very pack-like and they had more information than us (this was at the time when we all thought LoC had solved the riddle he later admitted to not having solved). It's also in the tourist's best interest to not have known tourists die. I know I'm a tourist, if there's someone suspicious to me I'm going to call them out and see.

Boy, he sure seems really interested in that item, don't you think? And so excited about somebody claiming it on Day Two, to boot!

Again, I want information on it. The more information we have, the better our chances of winning. I still want to see what you think is so bad about us knowing who has the item. What do you think will happen?

More tying of Blarg and LoC's fates, which is followed up in the next post where he explicitly questions their allegiance:



Now here's where I come in.

This was around Coppa's most active period in the thread, and he was good about getting back to anyone speaking directly do him, but I never received a reply to my offer about Prodigy. In fact, Coppa never comments on Prodigy, to anybody. It's almost as if he's being careful not to. As Sorian pointed out, Prodigy wasn't so careful in the reverse, because in the short time we knew him, Prodigy was anything but careful.

Which offer are you talking about? Nobody ever asked me about LP, and my read at the time was (incorrectly) that he wasn't suspicious. While I agree that my lack of comments on LP was bad, I had no other theories at that point. What do you want me to say: "I don't really have a strong opinion one way or the other on Lone_prodigy"?

Coppa then had the interaction with Blargonaut posted above, and afterward he's a ghost. He had no more votes on himself. Mission accomplished. But wait!

At the beginning of the day I said that Prodigy's unmasking made the Tucah vote more interesting. But looking at the list of votes on Tucah, it's almost entirely names that I read as solid Tourists. Almost entirely.

He says he's voting on Tucah to keep Blarg alive, but somebody else (I'll give you one guess) was in the top three with over two hours left until the deadline. Plenty of time for momentum to shift in a last minute campaign.

I was quiet after my vote because I made my case and voted with what I thought had the best chance of both: a) A favorable cult kill, and b) my survival.

Again, I misread Lone_Prodigy, yet so did almost everybody else given that he lost. If you think I led a "campaign" to get Tucah killed instead, where? Like you said, I was quiet here. If I were a cultist trying to protect one of my own, wouldn't I be talkative at that point trying to sway the remaining votes AWAY from him? I didn't.

And that brings us to Day Two.

Golly, Blarg sure is still suspicious. By the way, anyone gonna claim that Time Cube?

As I stated earlier in the thread, I was hoping we could know if a power was used or not. Right now, I'm trying to decide if Blargonaut is who I think did the 2nd night kill or not. I was hoping that the orb might say "You have these X powers, and can use all but 1 of them which was used."

If so, it would give us another possibility of what happened over night. I wanted to know 100% that blargonaut is the one with a night kill power before leading suspicion onto him.

In conclusion, while well put together, your argument is simply not true and every one of my actions are justifiable. Also, because it's currently 3-2 in the "Blarg vs Coppa" war again, and I have no more interest in saving his skin anyhow, VOTE: Blargonaut.
 

Coppanuva

Member
I never thought of it that he could be teammate of Lone_Prodigy. I am going to cast a vote for him to see what he has to say about that.

Regarding blarg, fuck me i still cant stand him and i still find him suspicious as hell but coppa just came one inch above him

VOTE:Coppanuva

Whoa I somehow am MORE suspicious than Blargonaut? That's... something I never thought would happen. Anyhow, I responded to Rats off to ya's comment just above this (it's the big one on the left, can't miss it). If you still aren't convinced, let me know and I'll explain even more when I get in to work later this morning.
 

nin1000

Banned
Whoa I somehow am MORE suspicious than Blargonaut? That's... something I never thought would happen. Anyhow, I responded to Rats off to ya's comment just above this (it's the big one on the left, can't miss it). If you still aren't convinced, let me know and I'll explain even more when I get in to work later this morning.

Yes, at that moment i felt that way but I failed to find the correct words on this one, i placed the vote on you to hear what you have to say, since you did that and you made some good points. I will place the vote on blarg.
Yes that is called flip flopping aswell. But like i said earlier i cant handle him.

VOTE: Blargonaut
 

Sorian

Banned
On top of everything, I'm still going to keep it front and center that Coppa was the only one that Prodigy bothered to put a good word in for. I will add something though. I read Coppa as a tourist on day 1 but not just any tourist, I read him as an ordinary, no power role tourist. It comes back to this post:

If that's the possibility you're hoping for you're sorely mistaken. If a townsperson gets evicted this first day, there's certainly worse choices we could make than me.

I'm still in with the logic that a cultist is likely voting on me at some point, especially now that the count of votes on me is 6. Unfortunately, there's not many consistencies between voting patterns so far, so nothing that pairs 2 people together as constantly voting on people yet...

At the time he was losing the vote heavily and seemed to have thrown in the towel. Obviously things turned around and he got more vigor as votes came off of him but this post was his reaction to being cornered. Rats' logic still holds sound to me but I'm not 100% sold that Coppa is a cultist. I did make a promise that I would vote for Blarg if we didn't have an extremely solid cult target and at the moment, it's looking like I'll have to make good on that promise. Don't get me wrong though, as it stands now, Coppa would be top of my list on day 3.
 

Sorian

Banned
In an effort to keep the thread from stagnating, I'm going to change my angle of attack here for a bit. That being said johnnyquicknives, I do still expect you to give us impressions after you get through reading all of the thread and I will come back to pressure you if you haven't spoken up much. For now though, I'd like to poke at this:

Don't worry, I've already done my homework. Took a while to get caught up, but I think I've got a good idea of what's goin' on around here.

It's gonna take me a bit more deliberatin' before I decide on who I wanna vote for today, but I already have a few names in mind.

VOTE: ScraftyDevil

I want to get you talking. By no means do I expect you to commit to a vote at the moment but you seem to have some suspicions and I see no harm in them getting aired out. We may find that you have something new to bring to the table that isn't Blarg or Coppa related.
 

RetroMG

Member
Ah, I'm curious how you read that now. My Blarganese isn't up to snuff so this could be a hit list or something else entirely, I just notice that it lined up fairly well with my own list of people I'd like to hear from.

It's not actually that exciting. I was half-asleep when I read that, so I just assumed Blarg was kicking his craziness up yet another notch,and at that moment, I was fairly done with it. But reading your post made the thought sink in that just maybe I was missing something, and now that I'm actually awake, I think your interpretation is probably the most correct.

I have thoughts, and the short is that I'm debating between Blarg and Coppa, but I'll try to post more when I'm not chasing a toddler or juggling an infant.
 
I'll point out this string of posts as well. Say what you will about Blarg but he is still trying to help town. All of these are people who have either not contributed since the day started or have done very little. We do need everyone to speak up on their thoughts so, in that respect, Blarg is targeting the right people to prod.

Admittedly, the day is still very young, but I suppose the point still stands- I'll make sure to be more active today.

My thoughts right now are: I do think Blarg is still our best bet. His above proddings are one of the only things he's done thus far that strikes me as pro-town, and that's not a good thing. He refuses to claim responsibility for LP's death (of course, I think it's more likely that someone else is responsibile anyway), and he has yet to post anything particularly enlightening. I was under the impression that we were wanting some more information from him? I don't think I need to know how to preserve a steak. My reasoning from the previous day phase also generally still applies.

Let's consider some possibilities for if we lynch Blarg:

Blarg flips tourist: This (unlikely in my opinion) scenario kind of sucks sucks (especially since it will have been the second time it's happened to me) for obvious reasons. We don't want to lynch a tourist. Even so, a cultist has already turned up dead- as such, we're in a better position to deal with mislynches than either of the other games right now. I'm not saying it's reason to become complacent and accept tourist deaths, but it does mean that since the momentum is in our favor, it's in our best interest to take care of our problem children now. If he turns out to be a vigilante, then it could still be construed a somewhat pro-town move because a reckless vigilante could end up doing the cultist's job for them. Also, Blarg is already suspicious to many of us, to the point where it would probably take a lot change some of our minds. Removing him from the game will force these players to engage with different suspects, which should help everybody with making reads.

Blarg flips neutral: One of the two more likely scenarios in my opinion. Doesn't help our win condition, but rids us of a player who could potentially turn on town when it suits him, so it's still beneficial to the tourists. If he is an SK, then it becomes especially worth lynching him. The loss of his puzzles will make things significantly less confusing for all involved. Again, the removal of Blarg also forces his detractors to find new suspects and engage in the game in new ways.

Blarg flips cultist: One of the two more likely scnearios in my opinion. After two cultist deaths in the first two days, Cthulhu game is voted best GAFia game ever. We realize that it made a lot of sense to lynch the guy who's done little but confuse town. Now that he's gone, those of us who were hung up on him are also able to go after other suspects.

Some scenarios are better for us than others. Still, each scenario has at least something beneficial to offer town. I don't think we can say that about many other options.
 

Sorian

Banned
It's not actually that exciting. I was half-asleep when I read that, so I just assumed Blarg was kicking his craziness up yet another notch,and at that moment, I was fairly done with it. But reading your post made the thought sink in that just maybe I was missing something, and now that I'm actually awake, I think your interpretation is probably the most correct.

I have thoughts, and the short is that I'm debating between Blarg and Coppa, but I'll try to post more when I'm not chasing a toddler or juggling an infant.

Juggling infants?

That's dangerous Retro:

FAKEVOTE: RetroMG
 

Sorian

Banned
Admittedly, the day is still very young, but I suppose the point still stands- I'll make sure to be more active today.

My thoughts right now are: I do think Blarg is still our best bet. His above proddings are one of the only things he's done thus far that strikes me as pro-town, and that's not a good thing. He refuses to claim responsibility for LP's death (of course, I think it's more likely that someone else is responsibile anyway), and he has yet to post anything particularly enlightening. I was under the impression that we were wanting some more information from him? I don't think I need to know how to preserve a steak. My reasoning from the previous day phase also generally still applies.

Let's consider some possibilities for if we lynch Blarg:

Blarg flips tourist: This (unlikely in my opinion) scenario kind of sucks sucks (especially since it will have been the second time it's happened to me) for obvious reasons. We don't want to lynch a tourist. Even so, a cultist has already turned up dead- as such, we're in a better position to deal with mislynches than either of the other games right now. I'm not saying it's reason to become complacent and accept tourist deaths, but it does mean that since the momentum is in our favor, it's in our best interest to take care of our problem children now. If he turns out to be a vigilante, then it could still be construed a somewhat pro-town move because a reckless vigilante could end up doing the cultist's job for them. Also, Blarg is already suspicious to many of us, to the point where it would probably take a lot change some of our minds. Removing him from the game will force these players to engage with different suspects, which should help everybody with making reads.

Blarg flips neutral: One of the two more likely scenarios in my opinion. Doesn't help our win condition, but rids us of a player who could potentially turn on town when it suits him, so it's still beneficial to the tourists. If he is an SK, then it becomes especially worth lynching him. The loss of his puzzles will make things significantly less confusing for all involved. Again, the removal of Blarg also forces his detractors to find new suspects and engage in the game in new ways.

Blarg flips cultist: One of the two more likely scnearios in my opinion. After two cultist deaths in the first two days, Cthulhu game is voted best GAFia game ever. We realize that it made a lot of sense to lynch the guy who's done little but confuse town. Now that he's gone, those of us who were hung up on him are also able to go after other suspects.

Some scenarios are better for us than others. Still, each scenario has at least something beneficial to offer town. I don't think we can say that about many other options.

You mention the same thing in all three scenarios and that is that Blarg is distracting some people from investigating other leads because they are still so tied up in his shenanigans from day 1. That always seemed like weak reasoning to me from viewing the other threads but this post:

Yes, at that moment i felt that way but I failed to find the correct words on this one, i placed the vote on you to hear what you have to say, since you did that and you made some good points. I will place the vote on blarg.
Yes that is called flip flopping aswell. But like i said earlier i cant handle him.

VOTE: Blargonaut

is a particularly good example of this happening IMO. Nin appears to be wanting to pursue the Coppa thread further but Blarg left such a large impression on day 1 that we get this quick flip flop of votes instead. Also Blarg provides an easy defense for anyone to hide behind. Coppa made a lot of sense defending himself but, at the end of the day, any cultist is going to be able to shift suspicion to Blarg until he is out of the game.

That's the main reason I'm pretty willing to make good on my promise from day 1. If Blarg did deliver some type of crucial information and we aren't seeing it yet then that is fine, we'll catch it as the player pool dwindles but now Blarg is just a distraction to a lot of players who may be honing in on something useful if they weren't so fixated on Blarg instead.
 

Coppanuva

Member
On top of everything, I'm still going to keep it front and center that Coppa was the only one that Prodigy bothered to put a good word in for. I will add something though. I read Coppa as a tourist on day 1 but not just any tourist, I read him as an ordinary, no power role tourist. It comes back to this post:



At the time he was losing the vote heavily and seemed to have thrown in the towel. Obviously things turned around and he got more vigor as votes came off of him but this post was his reaction to being cornered. Rats' logic still holds sound to me but I'm not 100% sold that Coppa is a cultist. I did make a promise that I would vote for Blarg if we didn't have an extremely solid cult target and at the moment, it's looking like I'll have to make good on that promise. Don't get me wrong though, as it stands now, Coppa would be top of my list on day 3.

I'm not really sure why Prodigy backed me up given that he knows I'm not on his team, but I urge you to not count that against me since it was out of my control.

Also you're reading that post correctly, glad to see it. That said, top of list for day 3... that's a long way away, I'm ok with that.
 

Sorian

Banned
I'm not really sure why Prodigy backed me up given that he knows I'm not on his team, but I urge you to not count that against me since it was out of my control.

Also you're reading that post correctly, glad to see it. That said, top of list for day 3... that's a long way away, I'm ok with that.

Remember, sometimes we are only going to catch someone based on the mistakes of others and not necessarily a mistake the person made themselves. It is a link and we need to keep it in mind going forward.

Day 3 may be a long way away but a lot of us held off Blarg's execution until today and it seems like most haven't forgotten that. In lieu of new info, suspicion won't be forgotten on you either.

That being said, do I think you're cult? I did yesterday, I do not at the moment, I probably will again later today when someone says something else interesting. The evidence isn't quite as stacked against you as I originally thought but there are inconsistencies there and I'm going to need to keep you in mind.
 
It's clear that Blargonaut is again going to monopolise discussion, which partially tempts me to get him lynched just so we can move the conversation around to other people, but equally I am somewhat doubtful that he's actually responsible for what happened in Night 1 because it seems too straightforward and there's got to be something I'm missing. He could have a role that's paired with the Serial Killer, that has to catch them/get them lynched in some way, which would explain his awareness of the existence of a killing role. Or maybe he really is the SK and there's no point in overthinking. Or maybe there's a Vig on the loose who made a good shot, and Blarg knew nothing Day 1 and was just leading us up the garden path.

This is still assuming that there isn't a switcher. Maybe Blarg really did kill a fire-related person, and L_P was just switched for the Mafia's intended target, which is a lucky move for town and a great play on the switcher's part, and our third-party was actually a huge liability in killing the doctor, and we all fucked up by letting him live Day 1. The possibility exists in a game where we don't know what roles are in play.

So many ideassssssss

I'm still not sure about who I'm going to vote for today. Some people are bothering me again, but I'd rather just wait and see how things develop and if they actually pop their heads above the parapet, rather than calling them out at this moment. ROTY's case makes plenty of sense to me, but I was suspicious of Coppanuva already and so naturally my mind would happily leap on any evidence to justify the conclusion that I had already prematurely come to. It's all too easy to read too much into peoples' posts in order to find what you want to find.

I never thought of it that he could be teammate of Lone_Prodigy. I am going to cast a vote for him to see what he has to say about that.

Regarding blarg, fuck me i still cant stand him and i still find him suspicious as hell but coppa just came one inch above him

VOTE:Coppanuva

Yes, at that moment i felt that way but I failed to find the correct words on this one, i placed the vote on you to hear what you have to say, since you did that and you made some good points. I will place the vote on blarg.
Yes that is called flip flopping aswell. But like i said earlier i cant handle him.

VOTE: Blargonaut

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Sorian

Banned
This is still assuming that there isn't a switcher. Maybe Blarg really did kill a fire-related person, and L_P was just switched for the Mafia's intended target, which is a lucky move for town and a great play on the switcher's part, and our third-party was actually a huge liability in killing the doctor, and we all fucked up by letting him live Day 1. The possibility exists in a game where we don't know what roles are in play.

If a switcher made that play then give them MVP for this entire game. That play is just too good to be true.

In regards to that gif, first off: lol

Second off, my point exactly, this discussion on Blarg is making people act ridiculous. "Oh yeah, there's a strong case on this guy! Wait, nvm, Blarg is still super weird." It's going to just keep mucking up discussion.
 

nin1000

Banned
This is still assuming that there isn't a switcher. Maybe Blarg really did kill a fire-related person, and L_P was just switched for the Mafia's intended target, which is a lucky move for town and a great play on the switcher's part, and our third-party was actually a huge liability in killing the doctor, and we all fucked up by letting him live Day 1. The possibility exists in a game where we don't know what roles are in play.
Well he did say he had no part in what happened with them

Nice try, but I'm not going to claim responsibility. Gotta keep my fingers clean, ya know.

and as i asked him directly, he went blarg again

You want the truth? You can't handle etc.

I dont know what to make out of this other that he is not really helpful at the moment
 

RetroMG

Member
I agree on Blarg. I don't necessarily think he's cult, but we're going to be constantly stuck arguing about him until he's gone.

It's a shame because I do actually enjoy the antics, but it's a tad frustrating during the actual game.
 
My opinion on Blarg hasn't really changed much. I think he's still our best option.

VOTE: Blargonaut

Convenient.

Oh boy a long post about me, I'm honored Rats but you're barking up the wrong tree here. Now that I'm awake again I'll tell you why your theory is wrong.

And what did you find? Was there anything suspicious pre-game that works? When I said that, it was in response to people saying we should vote based on total vote-count in the thread, which would be taking into account the first 3-4 pages of pre-game "Hey guys it's fun to be on this island!" and .gifs of cthulu's and jokes about that. If you're basing a decision on post count I think removing the non-game related count is important.

Speculation about the (At the time) most interesting and newest mechanic in the game? How damming. The suggestion for voting patterns is something I think is important to note for people who are less experienced in werewolf. And something you've even pointed to today. After all, you said this about the recent LP kill:

So I'm a cultist for talking about how pairs of votes might be used, and those 2 are innocent because of how they voted? I get that it's slightly different because that would be a vote on one of their own, just pointing out the inconsistency.

And? If Darryl's item doesn't exist what do you plan to do about him? I'm defending him here, and I still think he's likely a tourist. But at the same time there's no proof ANYTHING he said was true, all I wanted was proof. I'm also still unsure what you think the cultists can do to a tourist holding the orb given that Darryl lived through the night perfectly sound.

I raised questions about them because their relationship at the time looked very odd. It was very pack-like and they had more information than us (this was at the time when we all thought LoC had solved the riddle he later admitted to not having solved). It's also in the tourist's best interest to not have known tourists die. I know I'm a tourist, if there's someone suspicious to me I'm going to call them out and see.

Again, I want information on it. The more information we have, the better our chances of winning. I still want to see what you think is so bad about us knowing who has the item. What do you think will happen?

Which offer are you talking about? Nobody ever asked me about LP, and my read at the time was (incorrectly) that he wasn't suspicious. While I agree that my lack of comments on LP was bad, I had no other theories at that point. What do you want me to say: "I don't really have a strong opinion one way or the other on Lone_prodigy"?

I was quiet after my vote because I made my case and voted with what I thought had the best chance of both: a) A favorable cult kill, and b) my survival.

Again, I misread Lone_Prodigy, yet so did almost everybody else given that he lost. If you think I led a "campaign" to get Tucah killed instead, where? Like you said, I was quiet here. If I were a cultist trying to protect one of my own, wouldn't I be talkative at that point trying to sway the remaining votes AWAY from him? I didn't.

As I stated earlier in the thread, I was hoping we could know if a power was used or not. Right now, I'm trying to decide if Blargonaut is who I think did the 2nd night kill or not. I was hoping that the orb might say "You have these X powers, and can use all but 1 of them which was used."

If so, it would give us another possibility of what happened over night. I wanted to know 100% that blargonaut is the one with a night kill power before leading suspicion onto him.

In conclusion, while well put together, your argument is simply not true and every one of my actions are justifiable. Also, because it's currently 3-2 in the "Blarg vs Coppa" war again, and I have no more interest in saving his skin anyhow,

VOTE: Blargonaut.

Yes, at that moment i felt that way but I failed to find the correct words on this one, i placed the vote on you to hear what you have to say, since you did that and you made some good points. I will place the vote on blarg.
Yes that is called flip flopping aswell. But like i said earlier i cant handle him.

VOTE: Blargonaut

Oh, please. Look at these two.

Coppanuva, do you honestly think you can take me down? Me? You clearly don't have any grasp on the implications of being named by me on this island. Do I have to spell it out for you? Crawl back into that dank pit I pulled you out of, at least you'll be comfy when the rain comes.

Nothing will save you today. I wrote your destiny out before the day even began.

Coppanuva *needs* to be lynched today. It's a necessity.

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And nin, you can't... handle me?

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Your vote is meaningless!
 
Coppanuva, do you honestly think you can take me down? Me? You clearly don't have any grasp on the implications of being named by me on this island. Do I have to spell it out for you? Crawl back into that dank pit I pulled you out of, at least you'll be comfy when the rain comes.

Nothing will save you today. I wrote your destiny out before the day even began.

Coppanuva *needs* to be lynched today. It's a necessity.

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And nin, you can't... handle me?

Your vote is meaningless!

Pair of twos.
I don't trust Coppa or Nin in the slightest.
 
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