Where does this keep coming from?
Shu Takumi was behind Justice For All, a dire sequel propped up by the last case and Apollo Justice, arguably the most disdained installment in the franchise.
Meanwhile that B-tier team made AAI2, which is regarded as one of the best games in the series.
DGS is top tier and a loss for the West, but let's not get carried away.
Sorry, but you have to be kidding.
There's no way you're selling that to anyone not interested in AA already.
How much of a bitch it would be to read the game ? A lot of difficult kanji ? Furigana ?
I studied 5 years of japanese, but my kanji reading isn't good right now. And I am pretty sure this title wouldn't have VA.
If anything keeps this game from coming to America, I have to imagine that it'd be Capcom's lack of faith in the franchise (in the west) and not the fact that it has more transparently-Japanese characters than usual.
Yeah, I don't get it either. I mean, DGS is probably good, but I really dislike the direction Takumi went with AA4. I found 5 to be a huge improvement, and judging by the comments he made after the release of 5, I'm kind of glad he's not on the main series anymore.
I wish he would work on something entirely different. Ghost Trick was incredible.
Visually though, he looks and even moves a bit like Charlie Chaplin, so with some slight modifications to the model I could see that being a possible solution
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They are also thinking "we were too soon, if only we had waited until Yo-Kai watch came out then nobody would bat an eyelid".Capcom USA executives wake up from nightmares where they imagine someone playing the Monster Village case from AA5 and going to the internet to tell everyone that the game was from Japan and sales just dropping like a rock.
How many of those games you just list warred have scripts on the order of 250,000 words? Then there is the matter that Ace Attorney by the nature of its genre needs not an ordinary translator but a writer too. Plus Zolbrod pointed out some other potential issues.Hard to believe that in the PS2 days, Capcom was publishing stuff like Gregory Horror Show, Shadow of Rome, Okami, Viewtiful Joe, etc, and now they can't even scrape together the money to localise a 3DS game.
The 360 generation really destroyed some big Japanese publishers, Capcom wasted most of the last 10 years and are now a shadow of themselves.
I think, yes, if you want to make sure a huge audience can understand the game properly and no one is offended, it seems really tricky. But there is always the simple solution of not localizing much and mainly translating the game, then offering it in a limited run for fans. Look at Steins;Gate for instance (or most of NISA's output actually), which is so extremely Japanese, full of Otaku culture and stuff that really is awkward to many westerners. A simple text translation to English without much (but a bit when it comes to fitting it in with the main series) concern for localization cannot be too expensive, even for this type of game and considering there is a respectable audience of real Ace Attorney fans who'd buy this game right away,(a sizeable amount of hurdles for translation)
Hard to believe that in the PS2 days, Capcom was publishing stuff like Gregory Horror Show, Shadow of Rome, Okami, Viewtiful Joe, etc, and now they can't even scrape together the money to localise a 3DS game.
The 360 generation really destroyed some big Japanese publishers, Capcom wasted most of the last 10 years and are now a shadow of themselves.
There's a state in the US that is called Japan? News to me.Japan is not a secret
people know about it
There's very little VA, yeah, just a bit in animated cutscenes, and your general Objections and Hold Its and whatnot.
It's not super hard Kanji-wise, if you studied the language for 5 years you should be good enough to follow what's going on.
But they just announced they're localizing AA6, in pretty much the same time frame that the game's existence was even announced. That doesn't spell lack of faith in the franchise to me.
It has to have something to do with the actual content of the game, and it could be the fact that it's just a side story/prequel of sorts, and/or the fact that it's tricky to translate due to the language barriers in the game and just a lot of cultural in-jokes that would be very hard to translate.
Let me clarify a bit more because I got a lot of replies on my initial comment.
Sure you could just explain that Phoenix's ancestors are Japanese and that they changed their surname after moving to the West, that's not the major issue here.
There are just things that would be weird/awkward for a Western audience.
For one thing, the first English-speaking person you encounter in the game speaks gibberish at first, indicating that no one understands what she's saying because everyone in the courtroom is Japanese. This would be tricky to solve in the localization because everyone would already be speaking English, and you could try to explain this by saying "the player is reading English but the characters are actually speaking Japanese," but it would still be weird. Not unsolvable, but just weird.
Then there's the fact that a LOT of the British characters in the game poke fun at the fact that Ryunosuke is Japanese, which I guess is fine since the game was made by Japanese (although it does make foreigners look like racist assholes, which, granted, they often are, and must have been especially so in the late 19th century), but if you're playing a game in English where everyone is constantly making slightly racist quips at the only Japanese characters in the game, that could raise some concerns, you know?
Again, not impossible to solve, but an awkward element in any case.
Then there's the author I mentioned,, who actually went to Britain IRL. You could just not change this, sure, but it would lose a lot of meaning and nuance because no one in the West would know who the hell this guy is, and there are SO many jokes playing off his real life persona and his works.Natsume Soseki
Visually though, he looks and even moves a bit like Charlie Chaplin, so with some slight modifications to the model I could see that being a possible solution (although Chaplin was born in 1889, so the timing is just a little bit off), and, again, the racism card is often brought up in relation to this character, so that's another problem.
Yes, there may be workarounds for all of this, and they may sound like minor issues but many minor issues still amount to a LOT of work and it would inevitably involve awkwardness, so I can totally understand Capcom's decision for not wanting to (have their Localization Department) go through the trouble.
Where does this keep coming from?
Shu Takumi was behind Justice For All, a dire sequel propped up by the last case and Apollo Justice, arguably the most disdained installment in the franchise.
Meanwhile that B-tier team made AAI2, which is regarded as one of the best games in the series.
DGS is top tier and a loss for the West, but let's not get carried away.
Yeah, I don't get it either. I mean, DGS is probably good, but I really dislike the direction Takumi went with AA4. I found 5 to be a huge improvement, and judging by the comments he made after the release of 5, I'm kind of glad he's not on the main series anymore.
I wish he would work on something entirely different. Ghost Trick was incredible.
I couldn't agree with this more. I actually like AA2 and AA4 but they're definitely flawed. Shu Takumi is also behind PLvAA, which I thought was kinda terrible.Also Ghost Trick isn't that good.
Meanwhile the "B-tier," team is consistent, with AAI and AAI2 not being incredible but good, and AA5 being tied for my favorite in the series. They could be better than the "main," team if they actually chose a direction to take the series in.
Where does this keep coming from?
Shu Takumi was behind Justice For All, a dire sequel propped up by the last case and Apollo Justice, arguably the most disdained installment in the franchise.
Meanwhile that B-tier team made AAI2, which is regarded as one of the best games in the series.
DGS is top tier and a loss for the West, but let's not get carried away.
Yeah it's pretty strange. AA4 was regarded as the worst of the series by many for years and now it seems to get a pass. I don't hate it or anything though. I'll also agree that JFA was the worst of the original trilogy (despite being the first one I played) and is only saved by the last case. The second case is okay but the first and third are just bad. Layton vs AA also had a number of glaring problems, including that twist which is weird even for Layton standards but the game isn't bad.
A bit off-topic but can someone who's also played DGS/GAA verify something? I've heard. It's not really a spoiler in a sense but I wanted to be safe.that the game has a large sequel hook and a lot of things are left unexplained as opposed to most of the other games in the series where they also have their own enclosed story. Is that true?
Via Twitter:
https://twitter.com/capcom_france/status/638738807010029568
I'll wait for a fluent French speaker to weigh in, but from my knowledge and Google's translate, it seems pretty clear Capcom France thinks DGS/GAA is not in the cards.
Of course, this could be a PR rep guessing from their current knowledge, but it doesn't look good. And given the Capcom European Twitter accounts were quick to confirm AA6 this morning, it seems like they're at least somewhat in the AA loop.
Actually, if a mod could add "Twitter" to the title to be clear this isn't an official statement, and remove the "right now" (a misread on my part), I'd appreciate it.
Wait there aren't any flash carts that work on newest hardware? I was sure there are. I really hope they'll pop out so that we can play a fan translation.We would need a full speed emulator or flash cart that works on newer firmware for people to use any translation patch.
B-Tier team may have made AAI2 but that's kind of lost on me considering I never got to fucking play it. What I do know is that their output includes the mediocre AAI and AA5, so...
Consistency is good I guess but I'd take AA2 over the consistently middling AA5. Takumi gave us the unforgettable Von Karma, Godot, Dalia Hawthorne, Matt Engarde, and Kristoph Gavin.
AA5 gave us...
Not to mention all the weeby animu ass bullshit about lawyers' secret trump card being the real superpower of friendship or whatever, the awful prosecutor's awful design, and Apollo trying to get hard by becoming Raiden and being 100% totally fine after RIPPING OFF HIS BANDAGES in the middle of court when Phoenix reminds him that his friends are his power.
Man I'm really pissed, I don't like what this series became. I'm probably gonna pass on AA6 - I was excited for TGAA.
Should probably spoiler that image.
How do you spoiler images?
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Update from the Capcom France Twitter account. My french isn't that great but roughly that says that:
1) A number of people have retweeted one of our tweets mentioning the fact that DGS won't release in the west.
2) Currently there's no plan to bring it over in our countries.But we'll get back to you.*
3) At the moment we're focusing on the western release of AA6.
* That second line I've got trouble translating, I'm not a native speaker but I'm pretty sure that's what it says. If anyone who's better at French wants to chime in feel free to do so.
At least THEY are replying to people
The second line would be something like "We're going to transmit your feedback to our higher-ups". Which is nice but I doubt it's going to change anything.
All they have to do is imply that Phoenix's family was from Japan and then it migrated to America.
Just call the main character ''Ryu Raito'' and then say that the Raito family changed its name to Wright in order to integrate more to American society.
How is that hard? Are we really gonna miss out on Takumi's latest project for such a dumb reason?
I will be using the fan translation if I must, Capcom.Is anyone even working on one yet?
I read that some people are working on a Fire Emblem Fates fantranslation right now somehow
Also wasn't there a project for Dragon Quest VII 3DS where they just inserted the PS1 version's script?