Hyperactivity
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I'm currently looking through some of the older stuff from nin and TWE, so I might be gone for a bit
So many dead faces....
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Hyperactivity
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Hey Droplet, does ROTY speak in haiku in your forum as well?
Oh, ok sure.
So the mirror cult idea:
CoC:
LP: vanilla role
LoC: roleblocker
Time: kill-resistant
Co???:
Darryl: vanilla
nin: roleblocker
???: kill-resistant
Rats thinks that the missing night kill might have come from Time or LoC targeting this last cultist who was kill-resistant. It's possible that he voted for Worthy because they tried to get a no-information kill that night, but the action failed, so Time tried to get rid of him through a lynch instead.
No, he speaks normally. He just doesn't tell me anything about his newfound obsession with speaking in haiku in public.
So the mirror cult idea:
CoC:
LP: vanilla role
LoC: roleblocker
Time: kill-resistant
Co???:
Darryl: vanilla
nin: roleblocker
???: kill-resistant
Rats thinks that the missing night kill might have come from Time or LoC targeting this last cultist who was kill-resistant. It's possible that he voted for Worthy because they tried to get a no-information kill that night, but the action failed, so Time tried to get rid of him through a lynch instead.
No, he speaks normally. He just doesn't tell me anything about his newfound obsession with speaking in haiku in public.
Hyperactivity
Banned
This makes a surprising amount of sense
Only really conflicts with my idea that Sorian was insane or a cult member
Hyperactivity
Banned
I mean it's a possibility that nin was on his own, but I just doubt it. His admission seals his eventual fate, which means there should be one other cult member at the very least who wanted to piggyback on this, if nin has already been recruited
Maybe sorian was an insane neutral or something
Maybe sorian was an insane neutral or something
I mean, Neuro could also have just been a sleepwalker meant to confuse you.
Hyperactivity
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Why would he erase Sorian
I just don't get it
Maybe neuro was a watcher and watched Fireblend, or a tracker and followed Sorian, but I feel like he would be a little more careful
It could be possible that we lost two town PRs with that move in that case, which would really fucking suck
Hyperactivity
Banned
And on a flavor note (AKA, I'm not being serious about this one), I visit people in their dreams
ScraftyDevil
Banned
My only query is thus: why would Mr. Nin admit that he's insane if he truly were part of an evil team? Was it just poor foresight on his part, was he sent as a patsy by his brethren, or is he insane yet currently unaffiliated?
Rats Off To Ya
Banned
You feel a guy who literally erased himself and another player from the game, revealing nothing about either of their roles, would have been careful?
The reason Neuro erased himself and Sorian has always been a "wait after the game is over" question for me. I can't think of any real reason why he would do such a thing without saying anything about it. The fact that you know he took an action on night one is interesting, but by using that last power in the book and giving us no forewarning, I can't believe he was taking a logical action.
Hyperactivity
Banned
That's my first thought
I also want to take in the possibility that there might be two cult members, and one of them is going to hide behind nin1000's corpse
I've been looking through TWE's post history, and found some stuff regarding his position on nin that I find VERY interesting. Not saying he's cult, but it's worth looking into
I'll post them later when I've got them all and looked through all his posts, but it's safe to say that TWE wasn't always so aggressive towards nin1000, and that his switch from defending him to attacking him doesn't seem to make much sense to me
Hyperactivity
Banned
I don't ever feel comfortable in the idea of just assuming someone was stupid with what they did, but I'll agree that it's something to be left alone for now.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
Yes. He seems too passive and too close to himself. I feel like this is BAD. There are 2 people right now that we know/think are Insane. That's not good. AT ALL. If anything, today has been far more productive for the Cultists than it has been us. They know of 2 people that are Insane. Some of us, I included, think there are already 2 Cultists out there right now. They also know that there is a Romeo and Juliet role out there. Usually what that means is that if one of them is killed at night then they are both killed, and one of them is insane. I feel if one gets recruited the other will not be recruited but turn insane as well. Does that sound good? No. That's 3 people insane right there with 2 already in the Cult. Thinking about it now, and I know this may bite me in the ass, I feel we need to vote Rats off. Therefore we can prevent a recruitment and a possible double kill at night. Rats and Hyper I trust the most in this game so its hard to say that but right now, for me, its Rats or Nin. Also, guys...Insane Drunk...think about that...for one he is sided with the Town but is insane, and apparently doesn't even who he blocks. If he gets recruited OH BOY! There we go. We have a Cult that can recruit and block and possibly do soemthing else if there's a second person already in. Sided with the Town though so he must be okay. /s He's insane. Tomorrow he'll most likely be a Cult and then we will vote for him and get a Cult out but wait! There's still at least one other Insane person. This is how its gonna go if we end up doing what the rest of you are saying.
Night:
-Someone dies
-Someone gets recruited
Day:
-Kill recruited
Night:
-Someone dies
-Someone gets recruited
Day:
-Kill recruited
2 Cult are still alive.
If we kill an insane now it'll go like this:
Night:
-Someone dies
-Someone gets recruited
Day:
-Kill recruited
Night:
-Someone dies
Day:
-Go for Cult
We have a better chance at killing the rest of the Cult AND we don't end up doing the same thing 2 days in a row.
Just my thoughts. Take it or leave it.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
Not on Day stages unless its different. You guys, should only die together if a Cult kills you @ NIGHT.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
That is certainly interesting. The last time I was an R&J role we could only be killed together if someone killed us at night.
Then I still stand by my vote on Nin.
Hyperactivity
Banned
Zatoth already confirmed that only people who came to this island insane can be recruited
We have one insane person who we're going to kill either way. He's useless for the cult. The cult won't bother recruiting someone that will just die the next day. Nin knows he's dying, and, if he knows what's best for him as town, won't block any of the revealed roles tonight. If he tries to, he's probably on the cult now, and will just die, making it such that the cult wasted their turn
People only get one night action. If nin is slated in for the executioner tomorrow they won't waste a kill today to recruit him
If there is no kill tomorrow, that probably means one of two things
Nin blocked the killer, and is on town side
Nin was recruited
Either way, we're going to lynch nin no matter what tomorrow, and the cult will have lost a kill
Hyperactivity
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Lynching nin tomorrow is a win-win for town
TheWorthyEdge
Member
And who was turned insane on the Island? Rats?
Rats Off To Ya
Banned
I like you, Hyper.
Swing for the fence, don't play safe.
Blarg would be so proud.
Swing for the fence, don't play safe.
Blarg would be so proud.
Hyperactivity
Banned
Btw,I think I've formed my opinion on TWE. While he did go from defending nin day 3 and then attacking him the next day, then jumping off that bandwagon a little later (sometimes), there were way too many instances of him being far too aggressive when there wasn't that much pressure on nin
Of course, I would advise everyone to keep him in their head, as my hunch about him being overly aggressive towards nin1000 for specific reasons may still turn out to be true
I'm ashamed to say that I was on TeamSpectatorPlank back when I watching the events of Day 2 unfold
Of course, I would advise everyone to keep him in their head, as my hunch about him being overly aggressive towards nin1000 for specific reasons may still turn out to be true
I'm ashamed to say that I was on TeamSpectatorPlank back when I watching the events of Day 2 unfold
TheWorthyEdge
Member
Off to bed. Be back in the morning.
Hyperactivity
Banned
To make it formal or now
UNVOTE
Fuck, might as well put some pressure on someone
VOTE: GreatCharleston
I want to hear from you, you haven't said anything since the day began
Same with you johnnyquicknives
UNVOTE
Fuck, might as well put some pressure on someone
VOTE: GreatCharleston
I want to hear from you, you haven't said anything since the day began
Same with you johnnyquicknives
Hyperactivity
Banned
Just some thinking for the future
As I see it, either the lovers or I will die tonight
This works for us either way. Assuming we lynch nin1000 tomorrow, we have about 2 more lynches at worst
Day 6- 9 players, lynch 1
Night 6- kill me or lovers, nin roleblocks someone who wasn't on my list, comes back with findings. I know the last cultist won't waste his time with nin, he's wasting a kill (only one night action). If no kill, then we've found our killer or he was stuppid enough to recruit. Either way, we'll find out when we kill nin. Nin will hopefully be smart enough to stick to the plan, as a townie (if he's not, we still kill cult)
Day 7- 6/7 players, lynch nin
Night 7- idk, remaining PRs do your thing
Day 8- 4 players left, one cultist
This could come down to the wire. Our worst scenario is if nin has already been cultified
The only way we could live past this point would be a no lynch or if it comes down to a 1 v 1 where the book user uses the double vote
There are three ways to survive a situation like this:
A. Book user that day, if it comes down to here, don't reveal yourself (this means that any book users from now until this possibility should NOT use the double vote by any means. In fact, use the other power, to spy on people)
B. You also might all want to claim the book.
C. Do a no lynch that day. At the very least, you lower the possibility of their being a
mislynch that ends the game
In fact, do a mixture, probably of A and C, or maybe even B and C
The cultist may try to be smart and do a no kill. In that scenario, we're still back in a C scenario, with an extra day for any living PRs to do their thing
When I die, well, I came into this game with plans to die the 2nd or 3rd night I was in. I'm a fucking motion detector, the cult is wasting a day with me. But if they keep me alive, they risk me narrowing the list down on who our last cultist is
All our work from now till the end of the game should be based on narrowing that list down. Who knows, another Day 4 might happen today and we kill the last cultist. Maybe nin1000 is the last cultist. Maybe Zatoth is an ass and this last dude is some god that can preform 50 night actions at once. I'm accounting for the worst possible scenarios
I have a feeling nin will still be on our side, which means he can work his magic and help narrow the list down.
And if something totally unexpected happens, like the cult trying to kill nin1000 and actually doing it because they needed to investigate him or something, then my point still stands true, they've wasted a kill and given us an extra day to find someone
Either nin or I will be able to narrow the list of possible cultists down tonight
As I see it, either the lovers or I will die tonight
This works for us either way. Assuming we lynch nin1000 tomorrow, we have about 2 more lynches at worst
Day 6- 9 players, lynch 1
Night 6- kill me or lovers, nin roleblocks someone who wasn't on my list, comes back with findings. I know the last cultist won't waste his time with nin, he's wasting a kill (only one night action). If no kill, then we've found our killer or he was stuppid enough to recruit. Either way, we'll find out when we kill nin. Nin will hopefully be smart enough to stick to the plan, as a townie (if he's not, we still kill cult)
Day 7- 6/7 players, lynch nin
Night 7- idk, remaining PRs do your thing
Day 8- 4 players left, one cultist
This could come down to the wire. Our worst scenario is if nin has already been cultified
The only way we could live past this point would be a no lynch or if it comes down to a 1 v 1 where the book user uses the double vote
There are three ways to survive a situation like this:
A. Book user that day, if it comes down to here, don't reveal yourself (this means that any book users from now until this possibility should NOT use the double vote by any means. In fact, use the other power, to spy on people)
B. You also might all want to claim the book.
C. Do a no lynch that day. At the very least, you lower the possibility of their being a
mislynch that ends the game
In fact, do a mixture, probably of A and C, or maybe even B and C
The cultist may try to be smart and do a no kill. In that scenario, we're still back in a C scenario, with an extra day for any living PRs to do their thing
When I die, well, I came into this game with plans to die the 2nd or 3rd night I was in. I'm a fucking motion detector, the cult is wasting a day with me. But if they keep me alive, they risk me narrowing the list down on who our last cultist is
All our work from now till the end of the game should be based on narrowing that list down. Who knows, another Day 4 might happen today and we kill the last cultist. Maybe nin1000 is the last cultist. Maybe Zatoth is an ass and this last dude is some god that can preform 50 night actions at once. I'm accounting for the worst possible scenarios
I have a feeling nin will still be on our side, which means he can work his magic and help narrow the list down.
And if something totally unexpected happens, like the cult trying to kill nin1000 and actually doing it because they needed to investigate him or something, then my point still stands true, they've wasted a kill and given us an extra day to find someone
Either nin or I will be able to narrow the list of possible cultists down tonight
Rats Off To Ya
Banned
This game will be close.
Deck was stacked against us, though.
I'm proud of our work.
Deck was stacked against us, though.
I'm proud of our work.
Hyperactivity
Banned
There's also the possibility than nin is recruited right now, and he has a partner
Which give us this worst possible scenario
Night 6- Nin does a block, OC (other cultist kills)
Day 7- We kill nin
Night 7- Lovers or I are killed
Day 8- 4 players left, we won't have as much information, so we can't at the very least eliminate one player (btw, this is a bonus if nin hasn't been recruited yet, unless they don't kill the lovers and kill the person who nin cleared, in which case they just gave us an extra lynch, as we'll have 5 players)
Counting for a 5 player day 8, we NEED a no lynch
Actually
WAIT FUCK THAT
If we are in a 5 player day 8, lovers still alive, there are two possibilities, one of which is a surefire win
The first is that droplet has the book and the lovers are killed that night. Town loss
The 2nd is that the non lover has the book, and uses the double vote that day. We win.
Either the lovers vote together or its a 1 v 1 where the townie has a double vote.
In either case, if there is a 5 player day 8, everyone must claim book. EVERYONE. There must be a no lynch that day
Now going back to the 4 player day 8, nin has already been recruited, I die tonight, we're in a situation of guesses and reads. Go for the no lynch that day, and book user, don't use the double vote yet.
In fact, forget what I said in my earlier post, never use the double vote that night. Do two no lynches and so we get into a 1 v 1 situation where townie has a duble vote
I better make a fucking spreadsheet for these situations, I'm getting a little confused myself.
Which give us this worst possible scenario
Night 6- Nin does a block, OC (other cultist kills)
Day 7- We kill nin
Night 7- Lovers or I are killed
Day 8- 4 players left, we won't have as much information, so we can't at the very least eliminate one player (btw, this is a bonus if nin hasn't been recruited yet, unless they don't kill the lovers and kill the person who nin cleared, in which case they just gave us an extra lynch, as we'll have 5 players)
Counting for a 5 player day 8, we NEED a no lynch
Actually
WAIT FUCK THAT
If we are in a 5 player day 8, lovers still alive, there are two possibilities, one of which is a surefire win
The first is that droplet has the book and the lovers are killed that night. Town loss
The 2nd is that the non lover has the book, and uses the double vote that day. We win.
Either the lovers vote together or its a 1 v 1 where the townie has a double vote.
In either case, if there is a 5 player day 8, everyone must claim book. EVERYONE. There must be a no lynch that day
Now going back to the 4 player day 8, nin has already been recruited, I die tonight, we're in a situation of guesses and reads. Go for the no lynch that day, and book user, don't use the double vote yet.
In fact, forget what I said in my earlier post, never use the double vote that night. Do two no lynches and so we get into a 1 v 1 situation where townie has a duble vote
I better make a fucking spreadsheet for these situations, I'm getting a little confused myself.
Hyperactivity
Banned
Fuck it, you can't format on GAF
I'll go through the process from beginning
I'll go through the process from beginning
Hyperactivity
Banned
I'm working on the 2nd part, but here's an addendum for the first
Book user today, iirc you should have a spy option. Use it tonight and report your findings tomorrow. No matter what, we will be able to narrow the list down for tomorrow. In the scenario where nin is cult right now and roleblocks me tonight, you have a more useful power
Also, this full plan fully relies on two things
1. None of our book users use the double vote until the end
2. We definitely definitely kill nin1000 tomorrow
Book user today, iirc you should have a spy option. Use it tonight and report your findings tomorrow. No matter what, we will be able to narrow the list down for tomorrow. In the scenario where nin is cult right now and roleblocks me tonight, you have a more useful power
Also, this full plan fully relies on two things
1. None of our book users use the double vote until the end
2. We definitely definitely kill nin1000 tomorrow
Hyperactivity
Banned
Oh, whoops, I screwed that up
Regardless, that means the book user can narrow down the list for the eventual end
Book user, don't reveal yourself just right now
This could go badly.
If we lynch the book user today, he'll out himself
If we're about to lynch the cultist, he'll cry book user
If book user keep quiet and nin is town, he might roleblock the bok user
If book user reveals themselves and nin is cult, he might roleblock one while cultist kills the other (book user and I)
Hyperactivity
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Good, we'll need it
We'll really need it
Conserve each scrap of information about the book, previous book holders, and reveal only so much is necessary, current book holders
Later on during this day phase, not right now, I think you maybe should reveal yourself with that info. In the scenario where lovers die tonight, you'll be the link to confirm the next book holder, and so on.
I'm still trying to run through the possibilities (what's nice is quite a few of them have the same end scenario), but one thing is for certain. In a down to the wire scneario, we NEED active players
VOTE: johnnyquicknives
We NEED active players for the end, and for the next two nights, the lovers, the book user, and I will likely be the possible targets. Retro, TWE, GreatCharleston, ScraftyDevil, and you are the ones I can most easily see getting through to the end without a night kill
I'm sorry to say, but I can't fully trust you to become active by then. Today is the last "free" lynch we get. From here on out, it's nin1000, and then no lynches or the cultist.
Hyperactivity
Banned
I'm going to take a break for now, I'm done with maybe half the night 7 possibilities
Hyperactivity
Banned
Here's the nice thing about this situation. I'm fairly certain nin1000 is still a townie, which so far all leads to good scenario if he doesn't accidentally block tonight's book user
Of course, the major downside to the book user revealing themselves is if nin1000 is cult, so I'd like them to stay quiet a little bit longer, but eventually reveal before the end of the day phase
In any case, Night 7!
Feel free to point out stuff I'm missing
Of course, the major downside to the book user revealing themselves is if nin1000 is cult, so I'd like them to stay quiet a little bit longer, but eventually reveal before the end of the day phase
In any case, Night 7!
Feel free to point out stuff I'm missing
Werewolf Jones
Gold Member
I always had faith in Ultron and now he's gone. He served us well. Sorry I didn't post all night, I was out all day then I went to sleep.
So if Rats dies then Droplet dies too...? The thing with nin is that he may just be a spanner in the works and trying to sabotage the game and throw us off, he's played around before but now it is a lot more urgent than usual. The Cultists might not adhere to your potential ideas of killing off the "Lovers" or Hyperactivity but if it does happen then it's another big blow for discussion. I'm never gonna let up on Retro though, Ultron is dead, Time is dead now he's the only one who remains who had a very inoffensive neutral-ish play style. But as of right now I won't vote just yet.
I'm here for you guys, no matter what, even if you all want me gone.
So if Rats dies then Droplet dies too...? The thing with nin is that he may just be a spanner in the works and trying to sabotage the game and throw us off, he's played around before but now it is a lot more urgent than usual. The Cultists might not adhere to your potential ideas of killing off the "Lovers" or Hyperactivity but if it does happen then it's another big blow for discussion. I'm never gonna let up on Retro though, Ultron is dead, Time is dead now he's the only one who remains who had a very inoffensive neutral-ish play style. But as of right now I won't vote just yet.
I'm here for you guys, no matter what, even if you all want me gone.
Hyperactivity
Banned
I always had faith in Ultron and now he's gone. He served us well. Sorry I didn't post all night, I was out all day then I went to sleep.
So if Rats dies then Droplet dies too...? The thing with nin is that he may just be a spanner in the works and trying to sabotage the game and throw us off, he's played around before but now it is a lot more urgent than usual. The Cultists might not adhere to your potential ideas of killing off the "Lovers" or Hyperactivity but if it does happen then it's another big blow for discussion. I'm never gonna let up on Retro though, Ultron is dead, Time is dead now he's the only one who remains who had a very inoffensive neutral-ish play style. But as of right now I won't vote just yet.
I'm here for you guys, no matter what, even if you all want me gone.
If they don't kill either of us, say go for the book users instead (not a bad move on their part), then they'll suffer specific consequences for that too, or our last cultist is
Nin goes tomorrow. For sure. But he can be useful for one night.
There are reasons for why things may not go to plan. That's why it's important to discuss and throw suspicion on everybody. Right now, the end game set up I'm envisioning will be most common is a 2 vs 1 situation, barring major evidence against it, with one of the players cleared.
We need to get people to talk. That's one of the reasons we kill nin tomorrow. Killing him today and we get another non-starter, no leads day again tomorrow
It wouldn't surprise me if Retro ends up being our last cultist. It's likely one of the other 5 players (excluding the lovers, nin1000, and I).IF you're in the decision making role and you think you have enough evidence, go for it. Heck, we haven't even decided who we go for tonight
Hyperactivity
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today*
I feel like I stalk this thread far too much, although my posting frequency should go down tomorrow
I looked at Timeasis and loC ability's again. They send out their kill action out as a team. If we killed Timeasis before Killing LoC, he could have used 2 abilities in one night. Saying he still could Have easily blocked someone aswell as kill someone else. We should keep that in mind.
LOC's role description
Hyperactivity
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Hyperactivity
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Also, barring a cult investigator, cultist would probably recruit you by trying to kill, no?
Although, if the 2nd cult is built around recruiting, the OG member might have a special command for it
Although, if the 2nd cult is built around recruiting, the OG member might have a special command for it
I think that highlighted part only means that if a person who can put someone to sleep only can send out a command to put someone to sleep and so on. But the thing is that sacrifice command is a group thing whereas the sleep command aa single person command is. Saying that if there is only one person left in that group he could send out a group command and a single. Command. That's how I read it.
Hyperactivity
Banned
When you had the book, could you possibly do two night actions?
I want to know if that's the case here
Werewolf Jones
Gold Member
I have no real solid evidence or anything it's just that they've always seemingly gone under the radar, two of them are now out of the game and had VERY important roles so that is 2 out of 3 for me. Btw how is it we know who the book user is, are they just to come forward with it or?
Hyperactivity
Banned
I think they should layer in the day
It spreads the cultist around, gives him more targets
However, I think we should leave the role block power for tomorrow's book holdder, as it will be more useful to narrow people down when there are less people. OF course, should I die, and with nin's lynch, that could just mean that the book holder wold get targeted that night (although that leaves the lovers, a known quantity that will always vote together)
There are pros and cons to either side. I don't want to be calling shots here, would rather get everyone's opinion
johnnyquicknives
Member
Sorry, I thought the game was back tonight after the delay. I've had a quick catch up during lunch.
Regarding Nin I'm probably going to wait until later in the day to decide for sure. At some point we are going to have to waste a lynch on Nin and I'm still debating whether or not I think that it's better to do that today or tomorrow. Right now my instinct is that there is only 1 cult member alive and that we can wait until tomorrow to kill Nin.
The issue is just that right now I don't really have a great alternative for today yet. I'll post more once I'm home tonight and can better gather my thoughts.