Elfforkusu
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No Ristar.
No Sonic 3 & Knuckles.
No Sonic 3 & Knuckles.
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RUMOR: More Sega 3D Classics leaked from 3D Gunstar Heroes' RAM?
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Laevateinn
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Hey, don't kill my dreams.
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
M.U.S.H.A?? My God. With that music and in 3D. Would be amazing.
Gunstar Ikari
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Sega picked up the rights to Puyo Puyo and everything from Madou Monogatari that appears in Puyo Puyo a few years before Compile folded. They also supposedly published MUSHA's Wii VC port.
D4 owns most of everything else. They apparently licensed Madou Monogatari out to Compile Heart, who made Sorcery Saga. They got with Nintendo to make a spiritual successor to Guru Logi Champ on DSiWare.
Irem had the rights to The Guardian Legend, so who knows where those are at.
Oh, that's good to know and makes more sense since Compile's older efforts are still on Project Egg with D4's copyright.
I'm reasonably sure Irem only published the game. It is a sequel after all.
If we're throwing out wants I'd be super happy with MUSHA, LandStalker and SOR3 but would want to add Alien Soldier, Dynamite Headdy, Ristar, Ranger-X, Lightning Force, Phantasy Star IV, Monster World IV, Sonic 3K and Sonic CD.
With Golden Axe and Puyo Puyo Tsu I don't understand why M2 wouldn't simply use the Arcade versions. Unlike Altered Beast there weren't any visual upgrades for the MD ports. For arcade conversions I'd be okay with Tsuu (provided they add online play like the Wii VCA release) but bring us Power Drift, Revenge of Death Adder, Virtua Racing (plus Deluxe) and Virtua Fighter to go with it.
With Golden Axe and Puyo Puyo Tsu I don't understand why M2 wouldn't simply use the Arcade versions. Unlike Altered Beast there weren't any visual upgrades for the MD ports. For arcade conversions I'd be okay with Tsuu (provided they add online play like the Wii VCA release) but bring us Power Drift, Revenge of Death Adder, Virtua Racing (plus Deluxe) and Virtua Fighter to go with it.
cj_iwakura
Member
MUSHA remains my favorite Genesis game(and I'm so glad I got a complete copy before the price skyrocketed), so I'd get a 3DS version.
God, just keep the Idea Hacks away from Aleste. That news is terrifying.
God, just keep the Idea Hacks away from Aleste. That news is terrifying.
Seven Force
Banned
Only possibilities that excite me are Streets of Rage 3 (and only beecause M2 would probably let you toggle between Bare Knuckle 3 and Streets of Rage 3) and Comix Zone.
Shame about no Sonic 3 & Knuckles, though. Weird that we've had two lines of ports/remamkes pass that one up.
Shame about no Sonic 3 & Knuckles, though. Weird that we've had two lines of ports/remamkes pass that one up.
Sgt. Garlic
Member
I need Ristar and Sonic 3 & K! But that's still a nice list.
lovely ladies
Member
I was hoping for Dynamite Headdy, the games mentioned are still cool though.
Don't play with my heart.
SillyEskimo
Member
Shining Force? Well then!
J
Jotamide
Unconfirmed Member
I'll never understand how can Sega sell Sonic 1 & 2 in different platforms again and again and 3&K gets left out when it is the best of the classic Sonic games.
The Lamonster
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off-topic but what is the North America release date for Sonic 2 3D?
OrbitalBeard
Member
Most likely September 24th (two weeks from this Thursday).
sixteen-bit
Member
M2 would have to fix the weird dithering /fake transparencies on Vectorman. In RGB it looks kinda nasty, and on a fixed-pixel display like 3DS, it would look worse.
Totally for though. VM has one of my favorite Genesis soundtracks.
Sonic Spinball and Streets of Rage 3, but no Sonic 3K, Ristar or Dynamite Headdy?
The only thing that makes sense is that there are legal issues surrounding the music.
The only thing that makes sense is that there are legal issues surrounding the music.
sörine;177903695 said:
Irem has a copyright on the title screen of the NES version, so they probably had some stake in it. I'm sure if D4 had full rights to it we would've seen it on Wii VC.
Anyways, this list seems more like wishful thinking. I'd be inclined to say fake given the number of people out there who seem to enjoy spreading BS. Hope we get more 3D Classics though!
I hope it's Golden Axe System 16 arcade version.
Edit: I don't see Thunder Force IV on that list, but damn, that game was made to be made in 3D.
Is Thunderforce a Sega IP? I remember that Techno Soft (RIP ...) owned the rights on the games...
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
Member
Ehh would be a general drop in quality if true
You're right that's true, but I don't think Tecnosoft exists anymore. And Compile doesn't either, but I am wondering, legally, how it could work. IP ownership rights, not an area I know anything about.
Solid SOAP
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It's supposed to come out this month, so I can't imagine too much longer
Baleoce
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November 2013: https://twitter.com/okunari/status/406937782628540416
Feeling pretty happy about now. Landstalker with the 3D treatment would be amazing.
Feeling pretty happy about now. Landstalker with the 3D treatment would be amazing.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
3D Dynamite Headdy, 3D Ristar, and 3D Sonic 3 & Knuckles.
Only then do you have my permission to die.
Only then do you have my permission to die.
Oh and Shenmue 1 & 2 HD release on PS4.
I hope it's Golden Axe System 16 arcade version.
Edit: I don't see Thunder Force IV on that list, but damn, that game was made to be made in 3D.
I would absolutely love this game to get a 3D release. It deserves it. The art is just wonderful.
gunstarhero
Member
Would love to see this SMS 3D games in one pack. I used to play Maze Hunter till my eyes bled when I was younger.
Starwolf_UK
Member
On the Wii VC looking into the emulators would find similar lists of games.
I think for Nintendo only the SNES emulator had info and it had some rather curious things there including Picross NP 1-9, Secret of Mana (years before it was seen) and Illusion of Gaia. Now those last two were published by Nintendo in some regions outside of Japan (SoM was NOE and the other one was NOA and NOE) which might have been why they were tested. If you know how to dump a Wii VC game and it is early enough take a look in the "CONTENT000001.APP" file for the list. On the other hand that doesn't explain some never released third party titles such as Populus, Smash TV (these popped up in later builds oddly enough), Aladdin and Dragon Ball Z 2. The things are painful to read as the formatting is like this:
For the Mega Drive VC emulator a dumping and reading of the "CONTENT000001.APP" file finds similar strings but I think all the games in those ended up released.
This could be similar preliminary tests.
Why keep it in there? It isn't like you expect any non-internal people to read the list.
Edit: The real interesting part comes in seeing if this list has changed over time (i.e. is a working document) or if it is just some dummy data from the beginning (the partial SNES list I posted above actually had two lists, one of which never changed).
I think for Nintendo only the SNES emulator had info and it had some rather curious things there including Picross NP 1-9, Secret of Mana (years before it was seen) and Illusion of Gaia. Now those last two were published by Nintendo in some regions outside of Japan (SoM was NOE and the other one was NOA and NOE) which might have been why they were tested. If you know how to dump a Wii VC game and it is early enough take a look in the "CONTENT000001.APP" file for the list. On the other hand that doesn't explain some never released third party titles such as Populus, Smash TV (these popped up in later builds oddly enough), Aladdin and Dragon Ball Z 2. The things are painful to read as the formatting is like this:
Some of the text is due to HEX>ASCII mess. Now I seem to remember * were code for some kind of problem for releasing (probably not emulation bug but rights or misc, some could eventually be resolved).small extract of CONTENT000001.APP said:
For the Mega Drive VC emulator a dumping and reading of the "CONTENT000001.APP" file finds similar strings but I think all the games in those ended up released.
This could be similar preliminary tests.
Why keep it in there? It isn't like you expect any non-internal people to read the list.
Edit: The real interesting part comes in seeing if this list has changed over time (i.e. is a working document) or if it is just some dummy data from the beginning (the partial SNES list I posted above actually had two lists, one of which never changed).
It mostly seems to be to be Mega Drive (and since the Mega drive is 2 master systems duct taped together or something that makes BC easy, that too)
D4 didn't publish other Compile games like GunNac on Wii VC either. Nintendo selects VC games though so that's not really a great indication of anything.
Compile selfpublished Guardic (MSX) and then Irem published the sequel/spinoff Guardic Gaiden (FC). Compile didn't publish any of their own Famicom games actually, not even Zanac. Pony Canyon published that, and coincidentally their name's also on the title screen with copyright as well. Does that mean Compile/D4 don't have full rights to Zanac either?
I think '3D Thunder Force IV' and '3D Power Drift' should be the anchors of a third wave of Sega 3D Classics, filled out with arcade Golden Axe, arcade Shadow Dancer
and arcade Super Monaco GP.
All of those games are within M2's ability to get running on 3DS.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
No Revenge of Death Adder, no Story of Thor.
Hope fake. :/
Hope fake. :/
Damn, I did not know that existed.
Hero of Legend
Member
I actually just won 3D Gunstar Heroes in a giveaway the other day. XD Quickie; how do you pick up those orbs that fall sometimes? Tried every damn button!
Baleoce
Member
It'd certainly help, but I'm still peeved about that. I hope it turns out to be a popular release if true. Giving depth perception to the isometric viewing angle should make the game "click" for a lot of people.
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