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Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 5 releases next week (September 29)

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
Ok so:


•The slam button is not a hold down button. You slam EVERY TIME YOU HIT TRIANGLE. There is no hold down to slam you ALWAYS slam when you hit the grind button. No matter where you are or what you are doing. It is irritating as shit.

•Lip tricks are way too hard to hit. I was messing with the tutorial and needed to do 3 lip tricks. It took about 15 attempts. Some times I would just fly out of the pool instead of doing the trick and the other times I would do a grind. Even while coming directly at the lip of the pool at a straight run.

•Wall riding is fucked. IF you come at a wall ride like you've always come at a wall ride, in Skate or in Tony Hawk, you just hit the wall and grind down. You don't go up. You go straight down. It's like you kiss the wall. However, if you go to the wall STRAIGHT FORWARD you go up. Because that's how physics work and going perpendicular to a wall is really going to help you build up a combo.


I have spent very little time with it so don't call this anything major, but the main thing I want to point out is that the slam button thing. Usually I go into a game playing it for the first time and don't discover something to hate several hours in. This happened as soon as I started playing. And I don't even mind stuff like the 'decelerate or accelerate' button. Right now I'm just dealing with how this game doesn't work right as a Tony Hawk game. Maybe I'll try another level and the wall ride and lip tricks thing will be a bug.

But the slam shit is very real. And very fucking awful.
 

J@hranimo

Banned
Just looking at that one video, why is the camera so damn awkward? Was this originally a mobile game or something? When you're grinding or doing tricks you can hardly what's ahead properly. Yeesh, what a game. Good luck day 1 buyers...
 

Anth0ny

Member
Ok so:


•The slam button is not a hold down button. You slam EVERY TIME YOU HIT TRIANGLE. There is no hold down to slam you ALWAYS slam when you hit the grind button. No matter where you are or what you are doing. It is irritating as shit.

•Lip tricks are way too hard to hit. I was messing with the tutorial and needed to do 3 lip tricks. It took about 15 attempts. Some times I would just fly out of the pool instead of doing the trick and the other times I would do a grind. Even while coming directly at the lip of the pool at a straight run.

•Wall riding is fucked. IF you come at a wall ride like you've always come at a wall ride, in Skate or in Tony Hawk, you just hit the wall and grind down. You don't go up. You go straight down. It's like you kiss the wall. However, if you go to the wall STRAIGHT FORWARD you go up. Because that's how physics work and going perpendicular to a wall is really going to help you build up a combo.


I have spent very little time with it so don't call this anything major, but the main thing I want to point out is that the slam button thing. Usually I go into a game playing it for the first time and don't discover something to hate several hours in. This happened as soon as I started playing. And I don't even mind stuff like the 'decelerate or accelerate' button. Right now I'm just dealing with how this game doesn't work right as a Tony Hawk game. Maybe I'll try another level and the wall ride and lip tricks thing will be a bug.

But the slam shit is very real. And very fucking awful.

well fuck

better luck next time

still don't get why it's so hard to just copy and paste the physics from thps3, as they were perfect just the way they were.
 

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
You know what would also be really hot in a Tony Hawk game? If there was a load time whenever you go into a mission while you're in free skate. Even though you're in the same level. Doing Skate while doing the Sick score? Pft that's too seamless. We need load times going in and out of the mission. Also, we don't need lip trick,grind trick variants, but we totally need sticker slaps still.

Oh and did I mention that this game is an online game? What do I mean by that? Well if you'd like to play a level, you can press X to play a level. Or you can press... triangle to start a private match. So if you want to play by yourself, you're clearly not doing what they want you to do. And while in that private match in your 'massive free skate zone'(which I've found so far tiny of the first 3 levels'). You can't pause. YOU CAN NOT PAUSE WHILE YOU ARE PLAYING BY YOURSELF

I did play as Weezy F Baby and knock over some Swag Crates 7/7 though. So I got that going for me.
What's the problem with the slam button? Is there some other reason you'd be hitting Triangle while mid-air?
THPS
'Hey there's a rail there I'm going to hit triangle to magnetize to it and when i'm close enough i will'
THPS
'Hey there's a rail there I'm going to hi--- and my combo's gone'
 
What's the problem with the slam button? Is there some other reason you'd be hitting Triangle while mid-air?
Yeah, I have to question that as well...

I don't doubt the physics are questionable but the entire purpose of hitting triangle is to grind, the slam function is just there to try and save your combo if you're gonna bail.

There was negative reaction to the mechanic before anyone had hands on, as though the grind mechanic in the original games wasn't already extremely forgiving

That wall ride stuff sounds abysmal though

EDIT: Wait wait wait.....so you hit the button to grind but it can accidentally register as a ground slam and drop you on the ground instead of a rail? If so holy shit
 

kooplar

Member
I'm not defending this game, but holy shit I've never seen a game get more hate before release. It seems like most hate is mainly because robomodo's previous game was ass and people want to nitpick every little detail.

Sure, this game will probably be shit but nipicking just for the hell of it is unfair. Also, watching a video where it seems like the sole intent is making the game look like ass is obviously going to make the game look like ass... I could make a video of pure glitches in a fallout/elder scrolls game but that doesn't make those games horrible.
 

GavinGT

Banned
THPS
'Hey there's a rail there I'm going to hit triangle to magnetize to it and when i'm close enough i will'
THPS
'Hey there's a rail there I'm going to hi--- and my combo's gone'

Without having played it, it sounds like it'll be an improvement once you overcome the muscle memory thing of hitting triangle early.

It seems like most hate is mainly because robomodo's previous game was ass and people want to nitpick every little detail.

More like all of their previous games have been ass.
 

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
Yeah, I have to question that as well...

I don't doubt the physics are questionable but the entire purpose of hitting triangle is to grind, the slam function is just there to try and save your combo if you're gonna bail.

There was negative reaction to the mechanic before anyone had hands on, as though the grind mechanic in the original games wasn't already extremely forgiving

That wall ride stuff sounds abysmal though

EDIT: Wait wait wait.....so you hit the button to grind but it can accidentally register as a ground slam and drop you on the ground instead of a rail? If so holy shit

Yes. The slam button and the grind button are the same button. If it doesn't detect a rail near enough to you, it will just slam you to the ground. There was talks before the game came out it was something you held down. That's not the case. You hit triangle and if you're not near enough to a rail you instantly slam to the ground and end your combo.
 
Yes. The slam button and the grind button are the same button. If it doesn't detect a rail near enough to you, it will just slam you to the ground. There was talks before the game came out it was something you held down. That's not the case. You hit triangle and if you're not near enough to a rail you instantly slam to the ground and end your combo.
I knew it was the same button, and that it would slam you down to either a rail or the ground depending on what was near. But if that mechanic is literally interfering with the grind system that is some game ruining shit
 

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
I lost connection while uploading a clip to show what I'm talking about and got kicked from my private single player session. So that's fun.
c0yNM0J.gif

Here I go for a grind and get a slam instead. Look how close I am to the ledge. So the magnetization is worse than previous entries while far more punishing because of the comba instantly ending where as I should have been able to grind, flip trick and manual(which is what I wanted to do)
 

Solaire of Astora

Death by black JPN
I knew it was the same button, and that it would slam you down to either a rail or the ground depending on what was near. But if that mechanic is literally interfering with the grind system that is some game ruining shit

I don't understand why they couldn't have used the x (Ollie) button instead. I mean, it's been years since I played any of the thps games, but if memory serves, x didn't have any function while already in the air...
 
I lost connection while uploading a clip to show what I'm talking about and got kicked from my private single player session. So that's fun.
c0yNM0J.gif

Here I go for a grind and get a slam instead. Look how close I am to the ledge. So the magnetization is worse than previous entries while far more punishing because of the comba instantly ending where as I should have been able to grind, flip trick and manual(which is what I wanted to do)
You clearly punched the air so you can't have been that annoyed
 

Elija2

Member
I lost connection while uploading a clip to show what I'm talking about and got kicked from my private single player session. So that's fun.
c0yNM0J.gif

Here I go for a grind and get a slam instead. Look how close I am to the ledge. So the magnetization is worse than previous entries while far more punishing because of the comba instantly ending where as I should have been able to grind, flip trick and manual(which is what I wanted to do)

Yeah, that's almost game breaking. I can't believe they didn't think that mapping slams and grinds to the same button would be a problem. All they had to do to fix it was map slamming to its own button.
 

Coda

Member
I'm not defending this game, but holy shit I've never seen a game get more hate before release. It seems like most hate is mainly because robomodo's previous game was ass and people want to nitpick every little detail.

Sure, this game will probably be shit but nipicking just for the hell of it is unfair. Also, watching a video where it seems like the sole intent is making the game look like ass is obviously going to make the game look like ass... I could make a video of pure glitches in a fallout/elder scrolls game but that doesn't make those games horrible.

But every video of this game makes it look like ass.
 
I'm not defending this game, but holy shit I've never seen a game get more hate before release. It seems like most hate is mainly because robomodo's previous game was ass and people want to nitpick every little detail.

Sure, this game will probably be shit but nipicking just for the hell of it is unfair. Also, watching a video where it seems like the sole intent is making the game look like ass is obviously going to make the game look like ass... I could make a video of pure glitches in a fallout/elder scrolls game but that doesn't make those games horrible.

I actually enjoyed THPS HD, and yes I'm a veteran of the series that played 1-4 and THUG.

But THPS5 looks like ass in every conceivable way.
 

Bgamer90

Banned
Playing it right now:

-The graphics aren't good. They aren't "so bad I can't look at this game" bad but they are pretty bad. Everything is pretty flat.
-Movement feels pretty heavy/slow. I'm not sure if this is due to me just starting the game though (added stats could possibly improve on this).
-I don't understand the slam function at all. I would rather grind.
-Combos are easy to pull off (since manualing is pretty much the same) and are pretty enjoyable. I played THPS 4 and Underground online on the PS2 for hours and it brought me back to those days.
-Haven't heard much of the soundtrack but so far it sounds really generic. No song that sticks out. The sound effects also sound like they came straight from the PS1/PS2 Tony Hawk games and not in a good way. They sound very low quality.

So, as someone who is/was a huge fan of Tony Hawk games (mainly THPS 1-4 and Underground), I feel a bit mixed about the game so far. Combos are fun (at least to me). Not as fun as they were in previous Tony Hawk games (at least so far) but still fun. Everything else about the game feels pretty low budget but I guess that shouldn't be surprising due to recent video footage of the game.
 

Creaking

He touched the black heart of a mod
4 games now and Robomodo still can't manage more than a pale imitation of what Neversoft accomplished over a decade ago. I blame Guitar Hero.
 
Thanks to those who answered my question from before.

Ugh, I was so hyped for this game but it looks like it's Pro Skater HD re-skinned. Won't be able to give a verdict until I actually play this, but my expectations have been slashed incredibly. I'm hoping the Redbox outside Wal-Mart has it.
 

Bgamer90

Banned
So... I don't understand the combining of online and single player. It's sloppy and the decision that menus in "play mode" should only be navigated via the d-pad is stupid. I could see that alone causing a decent amount of people to not know how to play online ("Why isn't the cursor moving?"). Wow.
 

vmatix

Neo Member
There is now a little more footage on youtube..so..what does GAF say ? Yay or nah ?

Apart from the graphics, is the game play at least solid ?
 
I'm not defending this game, but holy shit I've never seen a game get more hate before release. It seems like most hate is mainly because robomodo's previous game was ass and people want to nitpick every little detail.

Sure, this game will probably be shit but nipicking just for the hell of it is unfair. Also, watching a video where it seems like the sole intent is making the game look like ass is obviously going to make the game look like ass... I could make a video of pure glitches in a fallout/elder scrolls game but that doesn't make those games horrible.

lol what

How bad does a game have to look before release before you think any sort of cynicism is justified? Because there's no way this turd can be dressed up to look anything other than a turd.
 
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