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Dengeki: Fighting Climax Ignition coming out on PS3, PS4 and Vita 12/17 in Japan
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Not that I can see. Ignition offers everything in the original along with improvements, which makes this even more frustrating. :/
CertifiedFP
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Welcome to Sega, where the Japanese branch has forgotten how to think international.
Worst part is, I don't think anyone at SoA knew about this either knowing Sega.
Worst part is, I don't think anyone at SoA knew about this either knowing Sega.
Barajas_201
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I hope the vanilla version in NA sales well to warrant the localization of this new version because I'm not buying the vanilla version, Sega Japan's terrible timing.
Firestorm ZERO
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Kuroko is now a playable character along with Uiharu as assist.
Kuroko is now a playable character along with Uiharu as assist.
Well, now I'm regretting preordering the vanilla version. Not sure whether I should cancel it and wait for this new version, or if I should just get both (if Ignition makes it over)...
SliceSabre
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Kuroko playable!? Yea I'm just importing for PS4. Screw getting the vanilla version.
sechsterangriff
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How to kill a Japanese IP in the west 101. Just announce/launch a new expanded version of your game right after the original version releases. Then when it finally launches in the west make it the same price as the vanilla version,
I'll be keeping my preorder. I preordered both PS3 and Vita versions, at a discount no less, so I'll be committing to that. Also, we don't normally get these licensed anime/manga fighters besides Dragonball and Naruto, to my knowledge, so I want to show my support for what Sega of America is doing.
Well, it'll be interesting to see what the dialogue between the two will be like. Sega of America won't just ignore this and Sega of Japan is releasing a revised game, fully well knowing the vanilla version was being localized. Sega as a whole must still be a damn mess. These things don't just happen though, I'd like to think there was a lack of oversight.
On a slightly different note why can't we get the Rumble Fish or Blade Arcus fighters? I wanted to play those.
RPG_Fanatic
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Well There is is. Now I'm actually sad will are only getting the base game overseas at this point. They just had to add more Index characters.
This completely killed my interest in Vanilla. I need Kuroko. Guess I'll just wait and see what they'll do.
Such a smart company.
As obvious as it is (and as sad as I am) Sega is sending the game out to die. I can't find one retailer that will do an instore pickup for the game (Bestbuy/Gamestop), and I just looked at Sega's official site for the game. It still has "full site coming soon" on it.
I'm going to keep my order because I was able to get it for a nice price with supposed release day shipping. I will be very surprised if it actually is delivered tomorrow since it hasn't even shipped yet.
I'm going to keep my order because I was able to get it for a nice price with supposed release day shipping. I will be very surprised if it actually is delivered tomorrow since it hasn't even shipped yet.
Best girl playable? Oh yes.
Yup i need all three of those!
Way to announce a new character THE DAY BEFORE WE GET THE OUTDATED VERSION WHICH WON'T HAVE SAID CHARACTER.
I'll still get the vanilla version tomorrow since I still want to be happy for the fact Sega bothered with the licensing for these (mostly) smaller name anime franchises, but damn, part of me wishes they just waited & released Ignition later on.
See, that's the main problem. If I don't buy the vanilla version & support Sega's decision to localize this, I fear they won't bother with Ignition because it won't be worth the money, time, & effort. But I also don't want the outdated version knowing Japan is getting the new version in just 2 months, not to mention this isn't something Sega can just release here as DLC.
I think some people said on here that no, there's just too many changes to the mechanics to warrant a DLC upgrade via Ultra SF4/ Arcade Edition.
I already made my review of the US version of the game: http://www.ps3brasil.com/analise/602/
It's in brazilian portuguese, but a quick english rundown:
-The mechanics are great and keep all characters viable
-Online code is good
-Lack of a single player content
I just hope Sega US is faster with the localization of Ignition or slow enough to jump Ignition and go straight to Fighting Climax 3.
I think that is the long road plan. To make the assists playable, but it will take a couple of revisions for that. Making 2D sprites take time.
What changes ? Or do you have a link explaining this ? Mechanics was one of the main reasons I really liked this game.
It's in brazilian portuguese, but a quick english rundown:
-The mechanics are great and keep all characters viable
-Online code is good
-Lack of a single player content
I just hope Sega US is faster with the localization of Ignition or slow enough to jump Ignition and go straight to Fighting Climax 3.
I think that is the long road plan. To make the assists playable, but it will take a couple of revisions for that. Making 2D sprites take time.
What changes ? Or do you have a link explaining this ? Mechanics was one of the main reasons I really liked this game.
Welcome to the anime fighter cycle, enjoy your stay
"- lack of single player content"
Wasn't there some kind of "Dream Duel" that was basically a single player story mode for each character? Or am I thinking of Arcade Mode & each character having a special ending?
Let me see if I can find a more detailed list as to what was changed. Edit: Shoryuken has some details of the new stuff from the arcade location test.
Wasn't there some kind of "Dream Duel" that was basically a single player story mode for each character? Or am I thinking of Arcade Mode & each character having a special ending?
4 more playable characters & 3 assist characters were added, balanced the gameplay, & some new systems, such as the one mentioned below.
Let me see if I can find a more detailed list as to what was changed. Edit: Shoryuken has some details of the new stuff from the arcade location test.
Dreamgazer
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I will continue to boycott the series until Kino is a playable character!
*yells at cloud*
*yells at cloud*
My interview reinforces my opinion that Sega of America had no clue that an update was coming to console this fast. My question was based on the update when Ignition was confirmed to be arcades-only.
After all, there's no profit for SoA in taking away hype from your initial release. I'm much more inclined to believe that Sega of Japan just doesn't respect Sega of America at all. This does no favors for the rumors that Sega of Japan likes to sabotage America for revenge because of the grudge over the Genesis I think. Then again game development and cooperation is always a lot more complicated than it looks on the surface, so it's likely that this release nonsense is limited to this Japanese development group solely.
So make the choice that benefits yourself the most as a consumer, I suppose.
My preorder from Amazon was just confirmed to be shipped. I'll be enjoying this game a lot and its English translation (plus it was cheap, so no big loss).
Once December draws closer I'll sell it and pick up an import of Ignition.
Unfortunately Sega of America's hands are a bit tied. Can't exactly announce an updated localized American console release of Ignition just a few months after selling the original version... they don't have the luxury of a time buffer like Japan has. So the import will likely be the only way to play the arcade updates for a long time.
After all, there's no profit for SoA in taking away hype from your initial release. I'm much more inclined to believe that Sega of Japan just doesn't respect Sega of America at all. This does no favors for the rumors that Sega of Japan likes to sabotage America for revenge because of the grudge over the Genesis I think. Then again game development and cooperation is always a lot more complicated than it looks on the surface, so it's likely that this release nonsense is limited to this Japanese development group solely.
So make the choice that benefits yourself the most as a consumer, I suppose.
My preorder from Amazon was just confirmed to be shipped. I'll be enjoying this game a lot and its English translation (plus it was cheap, so no big loss).
Once December draws closer I'll sell it and pick up an import of Ignition.
Unfortunately Sega of America's hands are a bit tied. Can't exactly announce an updated localized American console release of Ignition just a few months after selling the original version... they don't have the luxury of a time buffer like Japan has. So the import will likely be the only way to play the arcade updates for a long time.
Cross region yes, cross platform I believe no.
Yeah, this is why I decided to support Sega and buy the vanilla version, because they need to make back the money bringing this over & show that there is indeed interest in this series. Hopefully the cheaper price will help things a bit, but sadly it also seems like this will be sent to flop at retailers. It's simply bad timing, especially since in 2 months, the newer version will hit consoles in Japan. Hopefully, there'll be more people who'll buy this to support Ignition coming over compared to waiting for Ignition & importing that instead, even if I understand why someone would want to do the latter.
Don't think so on the cross-platform, but you can cross-save between systems (trophy list is shared between both versions as well, I think).
Edit: Anyone doing the OT for this? I don't know when I'll get to play my copy since I'm getting freakin' 4 more new games this week and console games are harder to find the time to sit down & play them.
The game has Arcade Mode and Dream Duel modes for single player. I believe both modes should be there in this release. Poster could just mean quantity of content in general, not relative to the JP release.
This is what I plan to do. I got the game for a low enough price that I am not worried. If I enjoy the game enough I will import in December and sell off this version.
If they wait too long to update to the newer version I feel like people will not care about the series at all. Hopefully for people waiting they decide to bring the new one over 6~ months the latest.
Well I'm sure there will be some fans that will buy the update, but to be honest...
the update is a raw deal for everyone involved. Japan is paying over $60 for an updated game which only contains a few more characters. The hardcore is getting fleeced like always per Japan selling traditions.
As I've already described above, Americans are getting screwed with the lateness of it. No real way to avoid this problem; release the update too early, and hurt your day one supporters, release too late and hurt the overall hardcore fanbase that will import the game.
Of course, all is forgiven if the game is sold as cheaply as before. I won't complain about an update if it's only $40 again, the only thing I hate is that I have to do these buy and resell shenanigans over and over because of the localization dance
Dream Duel is there and there's arcade, score attack, survival and time attack.
That's all the SP content, not something I would pass a lot of time.
Other thing that bothered me was the lack of a tutorial. Start reading those digital manuals, people.
And, as I expected, no novels to read here D=
They could only get the front cover for each of them
Thanks. They didn't changed previous systems, just added a couple ones to make offense even more dangerous.
Wait, the novels were removed? But isn't there still a trophy for checking them out? I mean, I get the reasoning (I think a few of them are actually licensed), but seems weird they'd keep the trophy, but would remove the way to earn said trophy. Edit: OH, it's only the covers that're unlockable/viewable. Ah well, this was the one thing I figured they wouldn't be able to keep.
Speaking of which, glad there's only one online trophy (I think) and for the most part, it seems like a doable, if not a bit grindy platinum.
Speaking of which, glad there's only one online trophy (I think) and for the most part, it seems like a doable, if not a bit grindy platinum.
Just checking the novels covers unlocks the trophy. It's sad, but I don't think Sega could do much. Some of the novels are licensed in the US.
Yeah, not a surprise. Sega probably couldn't get the license for the actual novels, just to use the characters (which makes me wonder if they had to strike a deal with Namco since they have the SAO game rights). Would've probably made for a good promo for the novels that've been licensed in the US, but oh well, not a huge loss.
Looking at the trophy guide, seems to be more grindy than anything, as there's only one online trophy (just play one match) & most of the stuff is unlocked via points earned from battle, then if you have the PS3 version & a spare controller, versus will help speed the process up.
Looking at the trophy guide, seems to be more grindy than anything, as there's only one online trophy (just play one match) & most of the stuff is unlocked via points earned from battle, then if you have the PS3 version & a spare controller, versus will help speed the process up.
I don't think Sega is in the favorable financial position to be "sending the game out to die". Time and money was put into a localization and I don't think the process is cheap. Why go ahead and ruin that? I just think it was bad communication, in the company as a whole, and bad timing. It's a shame though, some will indeed be canceling preorders or making returns where ever. The game seems like a small time fighter with an even smaller fanbase and smaller range of appeal compared to other fighters. Losing people a couple days before the game even released just isn't a good look. I'll also be keeping my preorder, not just for the price I'm getting it at, but because I want to show support to Sega of America for even attempting to localize a game with characters from smaller lesser known franchises in anime, manga, and lite-novels.
When I first read about the localization I was both happy and surprised it was going to happen. I've wanted to play the game but had little hope of it ever making it over to the west. Sega isn't known for niche titles; I'd like to think they're trying something new to appeal to consumers and build up a dedicated fanbase like Atlus and its work with Persona, Shin Megami Tensei, and the like.
As consumers ultimately we'll be voting with our wallets either way.
I'm sure Sega NA isn't purposely sending it out to die, but it sure feels that way. Specially with the announcement for the sequel.
I think there biggest problem is announcing this game for NA and then taking as long as they did to get it out. Looks like it was announced late Jan, if they got it out within 3 months this would be a different situation. But I know they can't snap their fingers and everything is ready to go.
Like I said, I am also keeping my preorder and I want this game to at least meet their expectations. Both for them, and for hopefully at least a small player base. Not having the sequel isn't that big a deal to me, having a dead game a week out is much worse to me.
Sega of America very likely had to delay DBFC because of their move from San Francisco to Los Angeles. Such a huge move causes massive disorganization in a company and they lost staff in the transition. Plus someone pointed out to me earlier that Atlus is actually handling the retail distribution for this title.
Sending out to die? No way. Such a small title has had all sorts of marketing work done for it, in fact it's quite a miracle IMO that such a title even got localized. The guy behind the project has a lot of passion for localizing games like this and I know he wants the game to succeed.... just read the interview I linked above.
That's why there's no way in hell that SoA is trying to kill it off, it is 1000x more likely that Japan is just operating off their own clock. It's like watching Arcsys in the dark days of yesteryear when their Western audience wasn't even acknowledged in press. lol
Sending out to die? No way. Such a small title has had all sorts of marketing work done for it, in fact it's quite a miracle IMO that such a title even got localized. The guy behind the project has a lot of passion for localizing games like this and I know he wants the game to succeed.... just read the interview I linked above.
That's why there's no way in hell that SoA is trying to kill it off, it is 1000x more likely that Japan is just operating off their own clock. It's like watching Arcsys in the dark days of yesteryear when their Western audience wasn't even acknowledged in press. lol
Maybe I am using "sending it out to die" wrong. I don't mean SoA is trying to kill the game, just that either they ran out of budget to localize it, or they don't think it is worth it. They are not updating the official site at all, and you cannot buy this game instore anywhere I can see (Bestbuy, Gamestop, Target, ect).
I haven't seen much in the way of any social network advertising/promoting outside of 1 tweet, and it seems a few reviews were put out today. I know it is a very niche title and they are not going to put a lot of money towards it, but it seems like they aren't even doing the basics.
dougsomegraves
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Edit: wrong thread.
SpikedGunner
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speaking of which, shouldn't someone make an OT for the English release?
The game is so niche, a thread wasn't made. Somehow this made me chuckle a little. Also, it seems the localization is getting the OST for first print runs: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1086654
I just found out about this.
Triple Da G.O.D!
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sixteen-bit
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How's the soundtrack. Any throwbacks to Sega classics?
It's not even all of the music from all the stages, which are all Sega-themed, which makes me further with they just had separate tracks & had all the stage BGMs. But yeah, I stand by what I posted above. I'll still nab Higher Higher to listen to because it's a great song & one of the best in the game.
Sadly, it's probably one of my least favorite pre-order CDs I've gotten for the sole fact it's all one track that's not even 10 minutes long. It feels like an Atlus pre-order bonus, but at least for the most part, that's more quality than quantity.
Sadly, it's probably one of my least favorite pre-order CDs I've gotten for the sole fact it's all one track that's not even 10 minutes long. It feels like an Atlus pre-order bonus, but at least for the most part, that's more quality than quantity.
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