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[orioto]

From what we've heard they've managed to make minimal cuts, mostly to the weather and cloud effects and a bit of trackside detail

From everything we hear about VR, that's just not possible at all. Or they have some magic happening.

I mean Drive Club runs at 30 fps.

This runs at 60 fps + twice the geometry to display, bigger fov, point of view changing super fact.. From what is known the cost of VR is something like 4 or 5 times the cost of a normal game. There is NO CHANCE IN HELL the games has "minimal cuts"

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Do those banners say 'DRIVER' and not 'DRIVECLUB'

I think that's the name of this demo. Even if these don't all end up as fully fledged games Sony has got a lot of content to throw on a demo disc and bundle with the headset.

 

[Durante]

That doesn't really say much of anything about what it looks like in VR.

It's really quite a different ballgame from an on-screen experience, IQ-wise:

I actually do wonder if it will even be possible to do an objective assessment of VR IQ, the measurements could prove difficult. Digital Foundry will be challenged

 

[3rdamention]

The downgrade must be massive i guess.. i wonder what's left of the game's graphics, light etc.. But still i'm interested

Read the article


This is from the article in the OP!

The prototype runs at 60fps and features a BAC Mono running a circuit race around one of the base game's India tracks. Evolution's Paul Rustchynsky explained that some optimisation has been made to get DriveClub running at 60fps - in contrast to the 30fps the base game runs at - with the car count being reduced from 12 to eight competitors, and with some trackside detail and the nuances of the weather and cloud system being dialled back. The rear-view mirrors were also disabled, though that's something that Evolution would like to address before any final release.

Following a single race, I'm pleased to say that it works, and it works well. VR's always been a good fit for racing games, and DriveClub only proves that. Being able to look to apex gives an extra layer of fidelity, and when matched with a good steering wheel - in this case Thrustmaster's T300 - it's one of the most authentic VR experiences you can get. The visual fidelity of DriveClub is largely intact, too - it's a little more sparse, but not distractingly so, and Evolution has been able to hit 60fps without the resolution taking a dive

 

[zoukka]

How does DC bend to 60fps?

Ah answered in the article.

 

[BadWolf]

This and GTS are great additions to PSVR.

 

[DieH@rd]

Well we have people who have played it and said the graphics aren't that far off from the DriveClub we play now.

I'm only saying that the image on HDTV is not in any way representative of the look of thegame inside the headset. HDTV stream is also laggy because of that additional signal procassing [inside headset is fine].

 

[Hoo-doo]

Fuck, i'm already halfway sold on a wheel + PSVR.

This and motherflippin' Gran Turismo VR. 2016 is going to be nuts.

 

[shandy706]

Lightning
Snow
Norway
Midnight
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RIP

Question is, what are they sacrificing from the game in order to have a 60fps game...or am I missing something?

 

[Durante]

From everything we hear about VR, that's just not possible at all. Or they have some magic happening.

I mean Drive Club runs at 30 fps.

This runs at 60 fps + twice the geometry to display, bigger fov, point of view changing super fact.. From what is known the cost of VR is something like 4 or 5 times the cost of a normal game. There is NO CHANCE IN HELL the games has "minimal cuts"

Well, just cutting down the number of other other cars as well as all weather and post-processing effects should already free up quite a few resources. On top of that, they could also without too much effort use lower LOD car, trackside and environment (e.g. sky) detail.

 

[Roussow]

Im surprised Uncharted runs that low on average. Usually the minimum framerate is more than 7 below the average. Impressive if it's that consistent

I imagine Driveclub probably runs as high as 45-50 under clear weather and single car on some environments

Well, it's worth noting that was in it's first demo state, that first demo debuted back in December -- by the time the game comes out it'll they'll have been through dramatically more optimization, normally I'd expect a game to be way more fucked up more than a year out from release.

 

[Footos22]

Question is, what are they sacrificing from the game in order to have a 60fps game...or am I missing something?

Less cars,less off track detail. Scaling back clouds and weather.

 

[danowat]

Question is, what are they sacrificing from the game in order to have a 60fps game...or am I missing something?

- with the car count being reduced from 12 to eight competitors, and with some trackside detail and the nuances of the weather and cloud system being dialled back. The rear-view mirrors were also disabled, though that's something that Evolution would like to address before any final release.

Quite significant reductions.

 

[DieH@rd]

I'd like to know how this reprojection works. Does anyone know an article that is easy to understand?

https://youtu.be/WvtEXMlQQtI?t=129

 

[LeonSPBR]

Question is, what are they sacrificing from the game in order to have a 60fps game...or am I missing something?

Read this and it will answer your questions:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...on-playstation-vr-and-its-mightily-impressive

 

[Neuromancer]

Omg so hyped. Give it to me now.

They haven't said a release date for VR, am I correct?

You are correct, other than the first half of 2016.

 

[mekes]

If Sony were only after positive reactions from those who tried it, they needn't have bothered. Give me the damn game!

 

[daveo42]

Eurogamer was very happy with it.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...on-playstation-vr-and-its-mightily-impressive

Yes it is. In this prototype demo, DC is running at 60fps in 3D [anti-fisheye SBS] mode. This is then upscaled to 120fps [with appropriate frame warping] so that responsiveness of the head movement gets better.

Read the article

This is from the article in the OP!

Thanks guys. Glad to hear that. As impressive as Driveclub is now, it's nice to hear they are able to keep most of that fidelity intact at 60fps.

 

[Hoo-doo]

Quite significant reductions.

Obviously. But in no way game-breaking. The core visuals are still there and according to Eurogamer and other hands-on impressions it still looks fantastic.

 

[orioto]

Well, just cutting down the number of other other cars as well as all weather and post-processing effects should already free up quite a few resources. On top of that, they could also without too much effort use lower LOD car, trackside and environment (e.g. sky) detail.

Ok well that's not exactly minimal But yeah VR being awesome, it's probably way good enough to be wowed.

At least it's more fluid than the original game.

 

[Blanquito]

Would love to try this.

 

[jett]

Does anyone know if this is 60 fps reprojected to 120?

It's amazing so many people didn't understand this post was a joke LOL.

 

[Kaako]

Thanks for posting pics/impression(s). Can't wait to try it for myself cause VR is dope.

 

[juicyfruitas]

Fuck man, if this and GT Sports' VR experiences prove legit i'm there Day 1 with wheel in tow.

Shahid needs to sign Euro Truck Simulator for a VR version stat! And hopefully there's a version of Wipeout being worked on at this moment.

 

[nortonff]

I will never be able to play with that helmet on my head all the time.

 

[Socky]

Ubisoft owns it.

I meant the 'Driver' on the poster above the DC branding, but sure.

And hopefully there's a version of Wipeout being worked on at this moment.

You brought tears to my eyes. Please Shu. And Motorstorm. :'|

 

[bananafactory]

From everything we hear about VR, that's just not possible at all. Or they have some magic happening.

I mean Drive Club runs at 30 fps.

This runs at 60 fps + twice the geometry to display, bigger fov, point of view changing super fact.. From what is known the cost of VR is something like 4 or 5 times the cost of a normal game. There is NO CHANCE IN HELL the games has "minimal cuts"

When I say minimal cuts I don't mean insignificant, of course they will be noticeable.

I just mean that it sounds like the core appearance of the game is relatively unaltered and it's still recognizable as Driveclub.

 

[DieH@rd]

From everything we hear about VR, that's just not possible at all. Or they have some magic happening.

I mean Drive Club runs at 30 fps.

No, DC is capped at 30. It never drops frames, so when unlocked it has to run quite better [especially in clear day enviroments].

On top of that, they reduced LOD distances, simplified weather/partickles/removed 4 cars/etc. Enough was done to the game to increase the freamerate to 60 while the game is rendering 2 viewpoints for both eyes.

 

[Stimpack]

You are correct, other than the first half of 2016.

Really expected a big No Man's announcement tied with the release of PSVR, but there's still time for that.

 

[danowat]

Obviously. But in no way game-breaking. The core visuals are still there and according to Eurogamer and other hands-on impressions it still looks fantastic.

Which begs the question, why not 60fps in the vanilla release?

 

[Stanng243]

Which begs the question, why not 60fps in the vanilla release?

Because they wanted eye candy? And they've obviously had more time to optimize since it was first released. They made what I think was the right choice.

 

[bananafactory]

Which begs the question, why not 60fps in the vanilla release?

Why is any game 30 instead of 60?

They decided the visual cutbacks necessary weren't worth it for the frame boost

 

[Schryver]

I actually do wonder if it will even be possible to do an objective assessment of VR IQ, the measurements could prove difficult. Digital Foundry will be challenged

Sounds like you just got yourself a job!

 

[Ooccoo]

Can't wait for Manhunt-like commercial VR game and the inevitable media outcry

 

[EatinOlives]

Pie-in-the-sky fantasy: I wish they'd update vanilla DC with "60 fps mode" with the same cuts made to the base game to get it to 60 fps.

30 is just ugh. Never got used to it. I'd much rather take cuts to the eye candy to instead have a smooth playing racer any day of the week. Save eye candy for Photo Mode and Replays.

 

[Conduit]

Looks damn great ( judging by the pictures ).

 

[Omnipunctual Godot]

Shahid needs to sign Euro Truck Simulator for a VR version stat! And hopefully there's a version of Wipeout being worked on at this moment.

Wipeout would make my brain explode.

Pie-in-the-sky fantasy: I wish they'd update vanilla DC with "60 fps mode" with the same cuts made to the base game to get it to 60 fps.

30 is just ugh. Never got used to it. I'd much rather take cuts to the eye candy to instead have a smooth playing racer any day of the week. Save eye candy for Photo Mode and Replays.

Yeah, I kind of doubt this will happen since one of the cuts included reducing the cars from 12 to eight. That's a pretty big change to make without calling it a new game.

 

[OsirisBlack]

Pie-in-the-sky fantasy: I wish they'd update vanilla DC with "60 fps mode" with the same cuts made to the base game to get it to 60 fps.

30 is just ugh. Never got used to it. I'd much rather take cuts to the eye candy to instead have a smooth playing racer any day of the week. Save eye candy for Photo Mode and Replays.

So driveclub isn't smooth? ok got it.

 

[Lettuce]

Hang on the main game of DR was 30fps...how that going to work in VR as it needs to be 60fps

 

[Hoo-doo]

Hang on the main game of DR was 30fps...how that going to work in VR as it needs to be 60fps

It's running a modified version of Driveclub, at 60FPS.

Eurogamer

 

[Neuromancer]

Hang on the main game of DR was 30fps...how that going to work in VR as it needs to be 60fps

Optimizations + cut backs in certain areas

 

[AndyD]

So its half of 1080p, that was warped for PSVR, upscaled to 120fps, and then de-warped back in a breakout box and downscaled to 60fps, so it can be viewed on normal HDTV. Don't analyse it too much for image quality.

Indeed. But they are a good indicator of the large scale amount of details still available. Such as amount of foliage and decor on the trackside, variety of weather and so forth.

 

[inpHilltr8r]

Less cars, more aggressive LoD, no weather, no rear view mirrors.

 

[orioto]

I hope they don't cut too much on the DoF of the game, cause if there is something specific to DC that is perfect for VR, it's the fact that the tracks have a real 1:1 background, mountains, forests etc..

 

[Carl]

I'm just not digging the look of the PSVR Headset...

It's very comfy with very good weight distrubution. Doesn't matter what it looks like

 

[sono]

I think PSVR is looking interesting, I need to try it, as I am still a VR sceptic

I'm just not digging the look of the PSVR Headset...

I think it looks really good.

Have you seen the competition ?

 

[mrklaw]

This is basically the motor storm 3D rift of Driveclub

 

[Piggus]

I'm just not digging the look of the PSVR Headset...

Just put a bag over your head while you're playing. Problem solved!

 

[PulseONE]

Do people actually *read* the article before posting? Seriously...

 

[hawk2025]

From everything we hear about VR, that's just not possible at all. Or they have some magic happening.

I mean Drive Club runs at 30 fps.

This runs at 60 fps + twice the geometry to display, bigger fov, point of view changing super fact.. From what is known the cost of VR is something like 4 or 5 times the cost of a normal game. There is NO CHANCE IN HELL the games has "minimal cuts"

...I would like a source for this.