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13y/o convinces parents to buy him GTA V using Power Point
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WhiteRabbitEXE
Member
Come on, I was making better PowerPoints when I was 10.
Granted, they had a shit-ton of Office 97 gradients and probably too much papyrus, but still.
Granted, they had a shit-ton of Office 97 gradients and probably too much papyrus, but still.
Some Gaffers are 18/ 19 years old though. GTA 4 was released in 2008. So there are people in here who were 11/ 12. I was 14 myself and GTA 4 is pretty realistic for me.
JediLink
Member
So you say no because it doesn't work? But it doesn't work because you say no. That's a logical fallacy, sir.
Gnome Scat
Member
I'm sure he'll be fine if his way of trying to get his parents to buy him a video game is to make a well crafted PowerPoint instead of screaming and making a fuss.
striferser
Huge Nickleback Fan
10 for effort.
If it was me though I'll buy the game and a diary for that kid, and have him report his experience with the game on that diary, then make him made a report based on it.
Just for the lulz of course
If it was me though I'll buy the game and a diary for that kid, and have him report his experience with the game on that diary, then make him made a report based on it.
Just for the lulz of course
GreyOcelot
Member
totally agree. it really depends on the kid. i was watching die hard, friday the 13th, predator, playing MK1 and 2 when i was significantly younger than this kid
Iva Demilcol
Member
If I were his dad I would've told him to let me think about it and the next day I'd show him a power point presentation about why games are rated M and why he can't play them.
Just_myles
Member
This kid has it figured out. Good for him. I would have humored him as well.
Making an ad hominem isn't the best argument.
Human development is not something set in stone that all people experience uniformly. It's foolish to overgeneralize. A generalization applies to many or most, not all. You should weigh all of the information you have available and make your decisions based on your specific situation. Your argument is essentially that nobody is different from anyone else ever and everyone should always do what everyone else does. So nobody gets better grades and skips ahead? Nobody gets held back in school? Some people mature faster than others and some mature slower.
Time is uniform, but experience is not. What we do with our time differs from person to person. We accumulate experience at different rates and we accumulate different experience from each other. My experience isn't your experience. A 13 year old with parents who haven't instilled in him a decent moral code and empathy might not be a good candidate for a Mature game, but a 13 year old with parents who have taught him the difference between reality and fantasy and made him care about others could be fine.
elitewillie1
Banned
This guy gets it. I have 2 kids. One 7 and one 11. No way I would let either of them play GTA when they were 13. No matter how mature they think they are, they are still not ready to handle all of the violence and bullshit in GTA.
This is of course my opinion. You do whatever you want with your kids. To each his own, except if they become societies problem when they are older.
Iorv3th
Member
If it were my 13 year old kid they could have written a novel and I still wouldn't buy it for them.
A lot of arguments in here saying that he's probably seen worse on the internet. Yet nobody in here is arguing for his parents to go out and buy him porn or something either because he has probably had access to worse things on the internet..
A lot of arguments in here saying that he's probably seen worse on the internet. Yet nobody in here is arguing for his parents to go out and buy him porn or something either because he has probably had access to worse things on the internet..
Sylverstone14
Member
Props to the parents for at least hearing him out.
And for the kid understanding the no if he got one (considering the slides dependent on an answer).
And for the kid understanding the no if he got one (considering the slides dependent on an answer).
dickroach
Member
| Praxis |
Banned
I'd buy him Knack instead.
SanguineShark
Member
You monster
Can't say I'm impressed. Kids aren't idiots, he probably likes design and easily found some templates to copy/rip off.
I don't have any opinions whether he or any 13 yr old should be allowed to play GTA, but judging solely from the presentation it'd be a no from me, and my parents would have done the same. He says he will nag about it if they won't let him and all his arguments boils down to "i want it" baked as different excuses. I'd actually be kind of upset that my kid tried to threaten me.
I don't have any opinions whether he or any 13 yr old should be allowed to play GTA, but judging solely from the presentation it'd be a no from me, and my parents would have done the same. He says he will nag about it if they won't let him and all his arguments boils down to "i want it" baked as different excuses. I'd actually be kind of upset that my kid tried to threaten me.
FranXico
Member
I would buy him LBP3 as a reward for the effort. Would not fall for it by giving him GTAV though.
Silent_Ocarina
Member
I can't say whether or not I would get my kid GTAV. My first thought is absolutely not, but when I think about it, I played GTA when I was really young as well. Still, despite the work he put into the PowerPoint, the "I'll keep begging if you tell me no" is what sets me off personally.
I think it might be permissible if the kid was not allowed to play when no adults were there to monitor the content and his actions. Lol at the " I have headphones " so adults don't have to hear the swears if he is allowed to play the story. I cannot imagine a good deal of the most controversial scenes being made somehow better by not being able to hear the context.
While I do agree that maturity varies from child to child and teens get into shit not rated for them often I don't feel like that game in particular is a good one to be making exceptions for. Unless a parent is seriously well versed on the twists and turns the story takes and the depth of content that makes the game rated what it is then they cannot make a properly informed choice. " It has swears , strip clubs, some violence and stuff" is not nearly informative enough.
While I do agree that maturity varies from child to child and teens get into shit not rated for them often I don't feel like that game in particular is a good one to be making exceptions for. Unless a parent is seriously well versed on the twists and turns the story takes and the depth of content that makes the game rated what it is then they cannot make a properly informed choice. " It has swears , strip clubs, some violence and stuff" is not nearly informative enough.
Lol this must be done
Captain Europe
Member
I'm getting older and I'm into more serious things lol.
That, coupled with the horrid grammar, this kid would have gotten a hell no from me.
This. I don't know how I will be as a parent one day but if I am anything like my mother I will be a little more cautious then many parents.
Krappadizzle
Member
prag16
Banned
Except he threatened in an early slide to whine and beg and bitch and moan endlessly if they still said no after the ppt...
That's not exactly "understanding the no if he got one". It just goes to prove his immaturity.
Every time I come back to this topic I continue to be shocked by how much praise this kid is getting for his frankly very shoddy powerpoint presentation. And the fact that he went through the trouble to create a fucking powerpoint presentation.. That is not time and effort well spent.
Honestly, considering how chock full of vile vulgar nonsense GTA is, nevermind 13, sometimes I feel like it shouldn't be played by anyone. (And this is coming from someone who plays tons of M rated games and recognizes and derides the ridiculously prude attitude America seems to have with sex in media, particularly games).
Here is his reward...
HA! Awesome reference. Though Bonestorm is extremely tame compared to GTA5.
PreFire
Member
He's 13? Lol kid sounds smart as hell. I learned to use power point in high school lol
Idk though. Gta has fucked up shit on all kinds of levels..
My nephew, who's 8, always begs me to play it in front of him when he comes over. I don't, of course. I let him play once, supervised of course. He just wanted to supposedly drive. All of a sudden he's mowing people down on the cross streets and starts laughing. I'm like, nope, you're playing Raymans legends buddy.
Idk though. Gta has fucked up shit on all kinds of levels..
My nephew, who's 8, always begs me to play it in front of him when he comes over. I don't, of course. I let him play once, supervised of course. He just wanted to supposedly drive. All of a sudden he's mowing people down on the cross streets and starts laughing. I'm like, nope, you're playing Raymans legends buddy.
markofhavoc
Member
Man I remember accidently clicking that beheading link that was going around near the the start of the Iraq war when I was 13, that fucked me up. I was playing hit man and doom and shit before that, real life violence and video game violence are not the same and it sure as fuck does no desensitize you to violence by playing a game. Kid wants to pay for it himself and put in effort, as long as the parents and kid talk, which it looks like they do, then I do not see the problem
A Link to the Past
Banned
I would have said no, because I caught a contradiction. He said he wouldn't play the campaign, but then used the length of the campaign as an example of its value. The child is obviously a schemer.
In all fairness if GTA V was released in 1991, I wouldn't be surprised if the government banned all video games for the rest of mankind.
NobleGundam
Banned
*slow claps*
I don't know the kid, but for some reason , I feel confident that he won't grow up to be a sex crazed, mass murdering, psychopath, after playing this game. Of course his parents know him much better than I do.
The most important thing is that he understands which parts of this game objectionable, and why they are so. At this point, I dont see what the desirable effects of sheltering him from them would be.
The most important thing is that he understands which parts of this game objectionable, and why they are so. At this point, I dont see what the desirable effects of sheltering him from them would be.
Dr. Black Jack
Member
I would applaud his effort, then tell him "Nope."
When my kids start earning their own money and want to buy an M-rated game fine, but until then my money my rules.
Like, they have their whole lives to be subjected to horrible bullshit on their own, no need for me to hasten their loss of innocence. They're only kids for so long.
When my kids start earning their own money and want to buy an M-rated game fine, but until then my money my rules.
Like, they have their whole lives to be subjected to horrible bullshit on their own, no need for me to hasten their loss of innocence. They're only kids for so long.