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Shenmue 3 Month 3 Progress Report with screenshots
- Thread starter Loudninja
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oh. oops.
still, it's nice to start talking about shenmue 3 in less nebulous terms now. i didn't think i would, but i have a feeling i'm going to anticipate the monthly updates pretty hotly now.
LelouchViBritannia
Member
Don't hold your breath. Im sure there's gonna be some negative twat out there that will try and put a negative spin on this great news.
But monthly updates are getting sweeter. Here's hoping the paypal campaign picks up a little.
i dunno. this thread has a significantly lower amount of snark than other shenmue 3 news threads in the past. as shenmue 3 becomes more of a real thing, i think people are either going to just shut up, or change their tune. i think some more disenfranchised fans will come back into the fold too, as we see the game more and more resemble shenmue as we know and love it.
though it does need saying for some people, again, that this is month 3 of 29. if this was a marathon the runner would have barely touched off from the starting line. for something that just exited the planning phase into the initial testing part of development, it looks appropriate, if not a little better than expected. using UE4 was a masterful idea it looks like.
R_thanatos
Member
Man does this scream EARLY DEVELLOPPEMENT in those screens for anyone else ?
Well i'm glad that they've reached another developpement millestone for shenmue 3.
Making the areas "just the right size" is very important for a game like shemue in order to feel like it.
I hope we'll be able to look back at those screens next year and feel the amount of work they've done
Well i'm glad that they've reached another developpement millestone for shenmue 3.
Making the areas "just the right size" is very important for a game like shemue in order to feel like it.
I hope we'll be able to look back at those screens next year and feel the amount of work they've done
LelouchViBritannia
Member
I'm glad Suzuki is taking us through the entire development process. I like seeing how a game progresses over time rather than waiting a year for a fancy trailer that has finished models and backgrounds.
Good stuff.
Good stuff.
zackmorris
Member
Because the budget of the first two games was massive. Now they're expected to make a similar game on a fraction of the budget. I just don't see how it's possible.
LelouchViBritannia
Member
Did you play Shenmue 2? More specifically the end portion of Shenmue 2?
important to remember the first two games were expensive because of the tremendous amount of work that went into coding tools for the game systems, and the use of very new technology for games. plus the fact the game basically went through two development cycles on saturn and dreamcast.
a lot of those functions are today built into UE4, but even then that isn't the point.
shenmue 3 does not need the spectacle and ground-breaking feeling those first two games had 15 years ago. those are really only superficial elements to the game. the joy of shenmue is immersing yourself in the world, enjoying the characters, and having a varied set of gameplay types incorporated within. that's very much doable on the current budget.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
I like it. Gonna back this all the way til completion.
LelouchViBritannia
Member
Nailed it.
Shenmue 3 will save a ton of money compared to the first two games for the following reasons.
1) Unreal engine is free. They don't have to build another Shenmue engine.
2) No saturn prototype or porting / upgrading game to a newer system
3) Marketing and promotion expenses have been taken care of
4) The game already has massive amounts of unused assets. I dare say the majority of the soundtrack is already complete, along with of course the story and writing.
5) Shenmue 3 will be smaller than Shenmue 2, not mainly because of budget, but by design choice.
Stephen Stills
Member
Bizarre. I actually think Shenmue has aged much worse than your average Dreamcast or, especially, PS2 game. The brighter, less realistic games running at 60fps are much more attractive today. Shenmue was trying to be realistic but that facade falls apart in 2015.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
I was hoping we'd have ragdoll reactions by now. Hopefully it's not too far off.
sixteen-bit
Member
Some of your image links are broke OP.
I just added the better quality pics.
wait, what?
Well it's a 3 month progress report so yes.
Dumbest post of the thread yet.
1) They dont have to create an entire engine from scratch
2) Unreal engine 4 has procedural creation of areas made extremely easy; creating in a week what could take a month for the same visual fidelity
3) What makes games' budget of today so high is the marketing; this game will have a very small one in comparison; reason being that it s crowd funded and they already will make their money back no matter what
4) This is an adventure game; not your generic AAA open world à LA just cause. You can talk to every NPC and enter every building. It doesn't have to get the gta5 scope to be an interesting world oh
InsaneTiger
Member
This looks better than I expected already. Are they using assets that the Shenmue HD modeler already made?
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Guys, cut Ape some slack. The first two had enormous budgets, I'm sure he was just expressing that he was excited/nervous about the way the game is gonna turn out, not trying to be negative.
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Guys, cut Ape some slack. The first two had enormous budgets, I'm sure he was just expressing that he was excited/nervous about the way the game is gonna turn out, not trying to be negative.
Augemitbutter
Member
that's pretty cool.
...that's literally what they are
it's been 3 months
what else should this scream? lol
openrob
Member
Good observation!
I'm pretty curious to see if today's technology can make up for the smaller budget. I understand that Suzuki outlined the biggest hurdles with the originals and that these hurdles aren't a big deal these days, but I'm not 100% convinced that they'll be able to make a game matching the originals in terms of scope, density, and variety on their current budget. And inevitably I'll be comparing this game to the originals.
I'm hopeful, but the budget still matters. A lot.
I'm hopeful, but the budget still matters. A lot.
Schattenjäger
Gabriel Knight
At this point I'd be happy with shenmue 2 graphics - this game is more about story
FlashbladeGAF
Member
Man does this scream EARLY DEVELLOPPEMENT in those screens for anyone else ?
Well i'm glad that they've reached another developpement millestone for shenmue 3.
Making the areas "just the right size" is very important for a game like shemue in order to feel like it.
I hope we'll be able to look back at those screens next year and feel the amount of work they've done
What are you expecting a kickstarter budget game to look like?
Ryo is slowly getting there
man what a succinct explanation. this is exactly what goes through my head everytime i see people talk about how "oh shenmue costs 80 million dollars, how can they possibly make 3 for so little money" only when i try to put it into words it ends up much more verbose haha
R_thanatos
Member
What are you expecting a kickstarter budget game to look like?
Ryo is slowly getting there
to be clear , i'm happy with what i'm getting .
Pharaoh 117
Member
Looking nice.
But still can't wait to finally see the real Ryo model. This model looks like a distant cousin at best.
But still can't wait to finally see the real Ryo model. This model looks like a distant cousin at best.
DannyDanger
Member
my penis is rock solid right now
AgentOtaku
Member
YEEEEEEEEESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!
Papacheeks
Banned
........Mine two, DON'T CROSS THE STREAMS!!!
has there been any info on what the fighting will be like? If it's Similar to Yakuza I'm in fucking heaven.
Paracelsus
Member
From the comparison seems like Ryo threw away his old jacket and bought a brand new one.
DarkLegion
Member
I really like Ryo's new model. Something feels a little off about the entire look of the game though.
Peter Sjöstrand
Member
I still can't believe we're actually getting a Shenmue III. Haven't been this excited about
an upcoming game since Resident Evil 4
Considering that they are only 3 months into development, these shots look really promising to me.
an upcoming game since Resident Evil 4
Considering that they are only 3 months into development, these shots look really promising to me.
Shenmue with modern lighting, pretty thrilling. This image here really captures what I've always hoped Shenmue III could be.
It is so great to finally have visuals for the game that aren't from the temp renders they put up for the Kickstarter. These are infinitely better.
Lots of work to be done from here on out, but as a die-hard fan, these visuals are already exceeding what I'd need to be more than happy with my Shenmue III experience.
Still can't believe this is happening!
Ghost_Messiah
Member
For 12 weeks of development the screenshots and progress that they're making is insane. They've literally just started and the game already looks like a quantum leap beyond the E3 tech demo. UE4 test environments or not I'm confident that the gaming legend that is Yu Suzuki along with the Korean Shenmue HD dude working on the game's visual fidelity is going to result in an amazing game because of the former, and a visually stunning one because of the latter. Yu Suzuki is responsible for some of the greatest games of all time. He fucking pioneered 3D gaming with Virtua Fighter. He's also proven himself twice with this series with Shenmue 1 and 2.
Remember he only stopped making games because Sega went under and destroyed his production capability. He didn't just suddenly lose his extremely high level of creative and artistic ability. I'm confident the man's still got it. Also keep in mind he's been dreaming about making this game for 14 years. He's acutely aware Shenmue is the defining project of his life, the epitome of his legacy and that fans across the world have clamoured for the game for well over a decade. He's not going to let us down. Shenmue 3 (and possibly 4) are probably going to be the last games he ever makes. He's going to give this everything. I have faith in Yu Suzuki.
Also remember that YS Net's staff are hand picked ex-AM2 Shenmue development staff that Yu Suzuki knows from his time there. It's a smaller team for sure, but it's as close to the Shenmue 1 and 2 development team as you can possibly get without Sega making the game with current AM2. If anything YS Net/ex-AM2 is probably even closer to Shenmue's original staff than current AM2 is now given the amount of time that has passed since Shenmue was worked on. And as for the budget it's not just the 6.5 million from Kickstarter.
There's an unknown separate budget from other funding sources such as Sony (yes I know it's reported to be not that much) and the investors sourced from YS Net and Shibuya Productions. I wouldn't be surprised if this game's true budget is double what we think it is. I'm confident it's definitely above $10 million at the very least (with all of the funding sources combined that is). Reading back over some E3 articles and interviews the other night Yu Suzuki was intentionally vague about the budget but he hinted that more funding sources were prepared and secured around the time the Kickstarter lit the world on fire. This game's budget is higher than we think it is.
Yu Suzuki is going to deliver an amazing game. As for the monthly progress updates? Fuck yes. It just shows the guy loves his fans.
Remember he only stopped making games because Sega went under and destroyed his production capability. He didn't just suddenly lose his extremely high level of creative and artistic ability. I'm confident the man's still got it. Also keep in mind he's been dreaming about making this game for 14 years. He's acutely aware Shenmue is the defining project of his life, the epitome of his legacy and that fans across the world have clamoured for the game for well over a decade. He's not going to let us down. Shenmue 3 (and possibly 4) are probably going to be the last games he ever makes. He's going to give this everything. I have faith in Yu Suzuki.
Also remember that YS Net's staff are hand picked ex-AM2 Shenmue development staff that Yu Suzuki knows from his time there. It's a smaller team for sure, but it's as close to the Shenmue 1 and 2 development team as you can possibly get without Sega making the game with current AM2. If anything YS Net/ex-AM2 is probably even closer to Shenmue's original staff than current AM2 is now given the amount of time that has passed since Shenmue was worked on. And as for the budget it's not just the 6.5 million from Kickstarter.
There's an unknown separate budget from other funding sources such as Sony (yes I know it's reported to be not that much) and the investors sourced from YS Net and Shibuya Productions. I wouldn't be surprised if this game's true budget is double what we think it is. I'm confident it's definitely above $10 million at the very least (with all of the funding sources combined that is). Reading back over some E3 articles and interviews the other night Yu Suzuki was intentionally vague about the budget but he hinted that more funding sources were prepared and secured around the time the Kickstarter lit the world on fire. This game's budget is higher than we think it is.
Yu Suzuki is going to deliver an amazing game. As for the monthly progress updates? Fuck yes. It just shows the guy loves his fans.