Mihos
Gold Member
Oculus will have the lead because of marketing, price, and the simple fact that gaming is not the killer app for VR. I would expect a pretty decent price difference that will reflect that split as well.
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HTC: There's a 'big story' regarding the Vive's launch games (TechRadar article)
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Oculus will have the lead because of marketing, price, and the simple fact that gaming is not the killer app for VR. I would expect a pretty decent price difference that will reflect that split as well.
Seeing as how it involves Valve, I'm gonna go ahead and assume it's nothing exciting.
My
guess: A 3D Steam interface where you can trade rare in-game items in a fully-rendered Steam auction house! And oh if you look inside the text of the game files you'll find all kinds of references to HL3.exe in the code! So clever!
My
shitty sarcastic
ashecitism
Member
Nah, with how Valve has been pushing VR, i'm pretty sure it's going to be something VR specific.
It may be part of one of their IP's but it's not going to be something that plays like those games.
So... Winter Lesson from Namco, Spring 2016? I always knew you had the insider info Durante.
Sarcasm aside I'm sure it's something that is related to their whole Steam "eco-system," and not actually a solid, real game.
AKA booooooring
ashecitism
Member
wanderingprostheyltite
Member
Source? Googled and all I found was your post xD
TouchMyBox
Member
Made by the Tales from the Borderlands team, in the style of the TF2 SFM shorts?
Fucking yes please.
Alan Yates (the Valve guy behind Lighthouse) has mentioned it on Reddit. Can't be arsed searching for it though
The difference is that Oculus is building for their first major launch with a wide range of launch software, while HTC and Valve basically aren't.
Valve already has stuff like Steam in place so they've been adding the bits and pieces of VR infrastructure over the course of a couple years, while Oculus is going to be launching a store with social and multiplayer infrastructure, apps like Oculus Video and Oculus Medium, the hardware device, and 3 year in progress launch lineup of dozens of games (many self funded and published) ALL AT ONCE. They want as much to be in place as possible.
wanderingprostheyltite
Member
Cool, if they have a comparable solution to Touch at launch my choice of who to go with just switched. Will still prob pick up Oculus later for their first party content though.
ashecitism
Member
https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/com...ifting_new_details_on_oculus_tracking/cs4jurv
doesn't mean they'll release them for the launch or at all
wanderingprostheyltite
Member
Thx for that. Yeah could just be their usual experimenting going on, would be surprised if they could pump one out that quickly for launch. I'm sure we'll be seeing a lot of peripheral makers coming out of the woodwork with their own solutions in the coming year. Will likely be plenty of options for both hmds.
I don't need any launch games.
Just release it now.
What's the purpose of the hardware if there no launch games? There has to be at least ONE good game announced for this thing or no one will buy it. I haven't tried VR but am very interested in trying it, but with no software, there is nothing to try. I don't want to pay $500+ to be able to run a couple tech demos.
How would movement be handled? It sounds like using sticks to move the camera makes you sick in vr so how would they do it? I guess they would do the teleport trick but that would seem kind of lame. I guess vive supports those boxes so you'd have to have a giant empty room to move around in?
TouchMyBox
Member
You really think it wouldn't have been leaked by someone now though? Unfortunately I think a virtual reality left 4 dead would cause people too many heart problems.
He said HE doesn't need any launch games. He is Durante. He'll make a game for himself if needed.
Besides, I guess there are a ton of old games that already support VR...But yeah I agree with you. Without a killer app and a couple more solid titles, I ain't buying this just so it gathers dust. I was hoping at least Adrift, The Witness and Ethan Carter VR will be out, but adrift got delayed, the witness isn't coming out till next year, and no idea how far along Ethan Carter is to officially support VR, so I have no idea at this point.
I think it could be. Walking Dead is still pretty huge. Feeling like your in that type of world could be very powerful if done right.
The speed of L4D in VR would be nauseating for most people.
reminiscingLemon
Neo Member
I think VR left 4 dead would be the tits,
I remember reading about their AR tech a couple years ago at this point
and they said they had a fully 3D lifesize projection of Left 4 Dead
running basically out of their walls via the AR and that just sounds incredible
I remember reading about their AR tech a couple years ago at this point
and they said they had a fully 3D lifesize projection of Left 4 Dead
running basically out of their walls via the AR and that just sounds incredible
Reallink
Member
It's not a marketing strategy, it's that releasing the details will look bad. It's probably going to be $700 or $800 and they'll only have a few thousand units for sell. Not something you want to broadcast.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
At this point, I'd rather have Left 4 Dead 3 than Half-Life 3 for sure.
That'd be fucking insane if it's that expensive. Aren't we expecting like $400-500 for the rift?
That'd be fucking insane if it's that expensive. Aren't we expecting like $400-500 for the rift?
Reallink
Member
Well it's basically the same HMD HW as Oculus, plus more involved dual controllers, plus HTC not being able to sell anywhere near cost (like Facebook can afford to do), plus Oculus probably gets a better price on the displays from being in cahoots with Samsung (by far the most expensive component). You can estimate up yourself, but I think $600 is a best case scenario. Their silence speaks volumes.
I see what y'all are saying about nausea-free gaming, but at least L4D3 will be announced with support along with maybe another nausea-free title.
Valve's db for project sharing/chat leaks occasionally and has been that way for the longest time as I can recall on SPUF.
From years back, we were always seeing 2 L4D3 hubs as the top (most active spot) and constantly having updated time stamps.
For the curious, Valve also updated their personal "Sports Team" section more often than the distant HL3 hubs, with only occasional updates every few months. (Not sure what happened after SPUF was phased out though.)
Valve's db for project sharing/chat leaks occasionally and has been that way for the longest time as I can recall on SPUF.
From years back, we were always seeing 2 L4D3 hubs as the top (most active spot) and constantly having updated time stamps.
For the curious, Valve also updated their personal "Sports Team" section more often than the distant HL3 hubs, with only occasional updates every few months. (Not sure what happened after SPUF was phased out though.)
That's precisely why I can't play any first person shooters (with a normal monitor) without getting sick.
But I will say, I've been having longer and longer CS:GO sessions now without feeling nauseous... but still a short amount of time for the average player.
I wish they would just announce things like price and games and availability. Occulus is not even coming this year, so Vive has nothing to lose.
The idea is that the high-frame rate and head tracking causes zero nausea/motion sickness.
So, it really isn't that much of an issue when talking Vive.
Their comments about 'some units soon and volume next year' sounds like a soft launch. 'No need to be competitive,new need to grow VR' sounds like they'll be expensive.
I wonder when games will come out. nobody has a concrete launch date announced so I assume devs will be aiming to be ready around Spring next year?
For me? writing software for it. That point was specifically about what I want, not what is best for the HW
I don't have an accurate room-scale tracking system, and without one writing a game which relies on accurate room-scale tracking is hard.
justsomeguy
Member
Wouldn't surprise me if it's hl3.
I don't think so. I think after they have finished making the game they will start teasing it with clues that are very hard to find or to understand. Gradually these clues will become clearer and clearer. Gaming community starts to really go crazy and then they release it. I believe and actually hope this is how it's going to go. I love all the speculation and hype around games that are obviously going to be great.
Azure Dream
Member
Maybe in this L4D you're not moving much, you're instead holding out encampments as the zombie hordes come at you. Your physical location inside the encampment still matters, and you can interact with zombies that get inside it.
So I could defend zombies from getting into my theoretical office, whilst wheeling around on a chair? Bitching
ashecitism
Member
lol. Does SPUF still exist? *searches* Hah, it does.
Yeah they phased it set by set so that certain links lead automatically to the game threads. They even announced they were going to flat-out remove SPUF.
But hey, for some reason that thing still stands, with enough digging of course.
Robottiimu2000
Member
I'm sure they will be using their IPs/universes but I don't expect there to be any traditional games coming from with the Vive.
Maybe they'll do a pack like Orange box that will including an interactive story from Portal, Dota 2 spectator mode, Half Life universe physics puzzle and TF2 sourcefilm scenes. Then a new IP which will be a new take on what gameplay Vive can produce.
I would actually hate it if it was HL3, Portal 3 or L4D 3 as none of those games I would want to play in a VR headset as all those games I would want to play in 3-4 hour sittings in which VR isn't great at! Plus it would have to change so much about the game to accommodate VR that I would probably hate it as it isn't the HL/Portal/L4D formula
Maybe they'll do a pack like Orange box that will including an interactive story from Portal, Dota 2 spectator mode, Half Life universe physics puzzle and TF2 sourcefilm scenes. Then a new IP which will be a new take on what gameplay Vive can produce.
I would actually hate it if it was HL3, Portal 3 or L4D 3 as none of those games I would want to play in a VR headset as all those games I would want to play in 3-4 hour sittings in which VR isn't great at! Plus it would have to change so much about the game to accommodate VR that I would probably hate it as it isn't the HL/Portal/L4D formula
I'm sure they will be using their IPs/universes but I don't expect there to be any traditional games coming from with the Vive.
Maybe they'll do a pack like Orange box that will including an interactive story from Portal, Dota 2 spectator mode, Half Life universe physics puzzle and TF2 sourcefilm scenes. Then a new IP which will be a new take on what gameplay Vive can produce.
I would actually hate it if it was HL3, Portal 3 or L4D 3 as none of those games I would want to play in a VR headset as all those games I would want to play in 3-4 hour sittings in which VR isn't great at! Plus it would have to change so much about the game to accommodate VR that I would probably hate it as it isn't the HL/Portal/L4D formula
Half-Life Lost Coast 2 Hype!!1!
