Ds4 to small? Ds3 I would agree with that statement. I have huge hands The DS4 fits great for me.
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Digital Foundry: Call Of Duty Black Ops 3 Face Off
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Ds4 to small? Ds3 I would agree with that statement. I have huge hands The DS4 fits great for me.
Thank god I don't have a budget pc then lol
I personally follow Digital foundry for objective things. What's ok for some is purely subjective.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Yeah. This is the debut of 900pr, I think.
Well, perhaps it's just the result of lower pixel counts?
The difference between 2160p and 1440p is huge in terms of pixels but it actually feels less significant than the difference between 640x480 and 320x240. When your overall pixel count is lower, lost pixels make a greater difference.
Also, let's not forget that different authors have different thoughts on the matter.
Mr. PlayStation
Member
Would there be a patch to up the frame rate from 30 to 60 for the cinematics/non-gameplay segments on the new gen console versions?
Hey, dark, in a Fallout 4 thread last week, you said the i3/750 Ti combo was able to match the PS4 version in this game. Is this really the case? This article makes no mention of it and the conclusion seems to imply that budget PC's don't run this well.
Edit: My bad. Got a bit confused.
ArchedThunder
Banned
The second comparison shot, is that actually lower res textures or is that a texture streaming issue?
neogaffer1
Banned
if you really wanted something objective every single article would be "neither console version is worth it because pc version exists and can be far superior than console versions ever would be."
LOL, I meant Black Ops 3. "This game" refers to Black Ops 3. My apologies if I didn't make it clear.
can we save this post for the inevitable time a topic like this is made again?
Well, the issue is that not all of us actually have access to such a machine and, with so many games to look at, the others may not have had the chance to test it. I'm curious as well!
We should also save the RDR Face-Off:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-red-dead-redemption-face-off?page=2
DF said:
DF said:
Wait, so it hasn't been tested on that machine? Well, I guess DF won't be testing Black Ops 3 on the combo unless it's an article to show that it can keep up with the PS4 in many games.
/outraged
TheRedSnifit
Member
I like how the Sony fanboys inadvertently turned this into a thread about how awful the PS3 was.
So according to the DF article, the console versions are using a mix of high and extra textures, so I'm guessing those low res ground textures are indeed comparable to high on PC? That's a pretty big improvement from high to extra if true. Also, what is the minimum VRAM required for high textures and how do 2GB cards fare?Is not only the second shot
Dictator93
Member
Is not only the second shot
It is nice to see extra VRAM being used.
Not this again dark. The difference between 640x480 and 320x240 is significant. However this has nothing to do with lower pixels. It's also not 880x720 vs 832x624.
How do you expect budget cards to fare with extra high settings? I mean, it's pretty obvious you won't store those textures in 2 GB.
8GB GDDR5?
I should have worded my question better, I guess. I meant on what settings for textures can 2GB cards run on without stuttering? I'm thinking medium.How do you expect budget cards to fare with extra high settings? I mean, it's pretty obvious you won't store those textures in 2 GB.
8GB GDDR5?
What has nothing to do with lower pixels?
The difference being significant between those two resolutions has nothing to do with the fact that the pixel count is lower than another comparison where overall pixel count is higher.
Lmao, yup, hopefully this will stop all this petty outrage from fanboys claiming to care about tech specs.
tattooed_dwarf
Member
You wish, there will be accusations on DF's bias whenever they write anything positive.
mario_O
Member
Wow.
ArchedThunder
Banned
3 of those are from the second shot.Is not only the second shot
Either way that's only one more shot, all the others from what I can tell are pretty close between console and PC. Just seems weird to me that most of the game would match but then in just a few areas it would look terrible, that's why I'm asking if it might be a streaming issue (I haven't played the game myself). Those really don't look like regular low res textures, they look like the textures haven't loaded in all the way.
LithiumSpade
Member
Did the person who originally quoted the article here actually edit out the word "still" from that sentence?
Anyway, DF has been putting comments like this at the end of face-off articles for years, including two previous articles (MW2, MW3) of this very franchise, and yet only now it's a problem?
Some people showing their true colours here for sure... :S
No idea, I just noticed that when reading it through.
I hate it as much as I love the X1 elite controller.
The default controller has pivoted LB/RB which is my biggest complaint about the controller, Elite fixes this. It also feels cheap and flimsy go hold, Elite on the other hand feels premium and very comfortable.
Dictator93
Member
Well, it kinda looks like the difference between medium, high, and extra high textures in some scenarios if you have seen the NV guide.
8GB GDDR5?
heh :]
The foliage in Black Ops 3 looks quite good, the shading especially makes the foliage surface look diffused yet with just a tiny bit of specular added which makes it look great. They also seem to have a slightly brown shade to them which gives it a slightly dusty appearance. It also helps that they are quite dense and detailed at the same time. (though nothing compared to Battlefront, the foliage quality and density in that game is insane for a 30FPS game and that game runs at 60)
All of this is especially apparent when the lighting conditions are right which can be observed in the map Hunted and Redwood.
All of this is especially apparent when the lighting conditions are right which can be observed in the map Hunted and Redwood.
GrizzleBoy
Banned
So DF literally says in other words:
"the xbox version is inferior in pretty much every way, but BASED ON OUR TECHNICAL ANALYSIS it is solid enough in multilayer that if your friends play on xb one you'll be fine with that version".
And the reaction is pages of arguing about............ I dont even know.......... Why are people arguing?
How could this possibly upset anybody?
"the xbox version is inferior in pretty much every way, but BASED ON OUR TECHNICAL ANALYSIS it is solid enough in multilayer that if your friends play on xb one you'll be fine with that version".
And the reaction is pages of arguing about............ I dont even know.......... Why are people arguing?
How could this possibly upset anybody?
Caayn
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ThomasAnderson
Member
Praise for any system not named PS4 is funny? Typical DF thread
Edit: the picture above says it all
visiblemode
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I think what you're calling a conspiracy theory is what the critics of this approach would call pandering.
It's not as though people are suggesting that behind the scenes, unseen people are pulling unseen strings in a concerted effort to accomplish a nefarious goal. That is a conspiracy.
What the critics of DF are suggesting is that a website with a perceived audience bias, is writing articles to please that audience or at the very least straddle the fence.
I don't honestly care much if DF wants to stay in middle ground of the console wars, in fact, it's hard to blame them. I have sort of found it irritating when performance gaps seemed to be glossed over this gen; when last gen they weren't, but if I were in their shoes I might find it awkward too, to be in a postition to alienate some of their core fanbase.
That said, my real contention is the use of the term "conspiracy theory" willy nilly, whenever someone wants to discredit someone's opinion or steer a discussion to a place of their choosing. It just doesn't fit here.
I made the comment when I first fired the game up and played with my buddies online that it looked blurry to me. I have it on the Xbox One and to me it's not "crisp" at all. I play on a 60" plasma so that might have some bearing on it but other games don't nearly look as bad.
Of course I don't have anything to compare to but I'd have to imagine on my 60" TV the extra resolution would help.
Of course I don't have anything to compare to but I'd have to imagine on my 60" TV the extra resolution would help.
I'm wondering the exact same thing. Do people not understand how that sentence structure works or something?
I think you're reading too much into the term. Of course, it's not something that could change the fate of a country, or even the world, but I just used it to express how ridiculous some posters can be when they want to find fault in something or someone. Yes, it's hyperbole, but it's not like there's anything wrong with using the term.
Ricky Ricardo
Member
Nope. We just can't speak about the Xbox One in other way other than COMPLETE FAILURE. The gall of people who would chose an inferior console just to play with their friends or for the controller. As you can see, it legitimately angers some of the posters in this thread.
Or people you could just go and read technical analysis articles you know?
This explains it all really
Don't think anyone has an authority over what these articles are meant to be, other than DF themselves.
LithiumSpade
Member
I highly recommend anyone who has the time, go back and read the whole thread up to this point so we don't have any more posters heavily embarrassing themselves.
Here's the quick summary, though.
Digital Foundry has made comments like the one quoted at the start of this thread ("Xbox One version is still a solid choice if that's where your friends are") for years now. They did it in the last generation when 360 multiplats were generally better, and they have done it this generation when the PS4 multiplats are generally better. They even made the same comments about last gen entries in this franchise! (See Modern Warfare 2 and 3 face offs for examples).
The only thing that is new here is that apparently it's suddenly unacceptable... :S
Here's the quick summary, though.
Digital Foundry has made comments like the one quoted at the start of this thread ("Xbox One version is still a solid choice if that's where your friends are") for years now. They did it in the last generation when 360 multiplats were generally better, and they have done it this generation when the PS4 multiplats are generally better. They even made the same comments about last gen entries in this franchise! (See Modern Warfare 2 and 3 face offs for examples).
The only thing that is new here is that apparently it's suddenly unacceptable... :S
AgentP
Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
No, it was always unacceptable. I ragged on Leadbetter all last gen for the same kind of crap. So much for your generalizations!