it seems like they actually provided an update on the situation, saying that things are actually underway, but won't be able to meet nintendo's demands for the year.
I for one am excited.
But identical numbers. Numbers that don't make sense based on how 3DS/Wii U launched. And launching a new device within half a year, when nothing is yet known about it (while they market things like Splatoon for a year, and Xenoblade X for 2+ years). While their mobile games were delayed by half a year. Nothing makes sense here.
Only 1 month until 2016 :O
Yep. NX news on 1st of January or bust.
I think it's too soon for Nintendo to ask fans to purchase a new console if NX comes out in 2016. 4 years is an extremely shorts generation and I just don't see this console being successful.
I find some of the price predictions / expectations for anything on this website hilarious.
Yes, Nintendo's new console will launch between $100-150, and the PSVR will be $150-200, and the HTC Vive will be $200-250, and you can put together a PC to drive it for years for just $300-350.
Anything more than any of those prices and these nasty companies are just gouging you!
I mean, a dinner out with a friend comes to about $100 after wine where I'm at. That's some fucking chicken, potatoes and fermented grapes cooked by people who don't exactly need doctorates to do their jobs. But the technological product of accumulated genius upon genius in chip development over the years to create the APU, the massive undertaking of software engineers in OS design and programming, all that additional hardware (controller etc), all the production costs to put it together, all the R&D, all the minerals it takes to make everything, marketing expenses, the shipping costs, the retailer's cut...
Somehow all of that should add up to about $150 for this thing. Man, I don't understand it. I really don't.
My rule with Nintendo: take what would be best for them or what would make most sense, then add $50. So for the handheld I'm expecting $250, for the console $350. Goes without saying that I think $200 and $300 are far better price points and what I'm hoping for. Either that or multiple SKUs.
Number one factor is that the thing needs to be desirable, though. If you get that right price doesn't matter half as much.
For most people, the last Nintendo consoel they bought was the Wii 7 years ago.
Well a few million people that are quite hardcore Nintendo fans bought the Wii U and Nintendo could have supported it a lot more... and it is killing it early too. I think they should treat their fan base with a bit more love.
NX is doomed the second they announce a price. The PS4 and XO are already under £250 with big games included. I saw Wii U's most common Black Friday deal was Mario Kart and Splatoon for £225. If they can't compete with their current system how on earth will a new piece of hardware at a higher cost entice customers. They've lost the casual GTA/Fifa market forever and thats where a lot of the industries money comes from. People who like games but don't love them.
Well a few million people that are quite hardcore Nintendo fans bought the Wii U and Nintendo could have supported it a lot more... and it is killing it early too. I think they should treat their fan base with a bit more love.
It's not killer apps that they are missing, it's good 3rd party support. Good 1st party output only gets you so far.All they need is 1 or 2 killer app launch games, and some proper marketing, to get a solid holiday launch next year, and be able to ride that momentum to build up a nice solid userbase in the first year. The Wii U's clunky launch, with shit-awful marketing, and no real killer appstopped the Wii U dead in it's tracks, and they've been slowly playing catch up ever since.except for ZombiU ;_;
Retro Studios + EAD Tokyo to deliver that 1-2 combo launch punch? Most definitely.
Well a few million people that are quite hardcore Nintendo fans bought the Wii U and Nintendo could have supported it a lot more... and it is killing it early too. I think they should treat their fan base with a bit more love.
Me too.I for one am excited.
you can also point to sega doing kind of the same thing with the master system (although that was already a weird journey in and of itself) and the mega drive, and sega again with the saturn and the dreamcast.
the wii u is the best option for an 8th gen family console, but mostly a luxury item for nintendo fans. mainstream nintendo fans will have a 3ds, which is pretty much maxed out in all honestly.
People keep overlooking this.....It's not killer apps that they are missing, it's good 3rd party support. Good 1st party output only gets you so far.
I don't think I will get an NX at launch. First buyers are always like beta testers and I don't want any issues with my console lol
NX is doomed the second they announce a price. The PS4 and XO are already under £250 with big games included. I saw Wii U's most common Black Friday deal was Mario Kart and Splatoon for £225. If they can't compete with their current system how on earth will a new piece of hardware at a higher cost entice customers. They've lost the casual GTA/Fifa market forever and thats where a lot of the industries money comes from. People who like games but don't love them.
Well a few million people that are quite hardcore Nintendo fans bought the Wii U and Nintendo could have supported it a lot more... and it is killing it early too. I think they should treat their fan base with a bit more love.
Cutting off the Wii U isn't something that could piss off people, because the existence of such a bad product already alienated most people a long time ago. They even lost their standard Nintendo fans, considering that Wii U's barely gonna reach half of GCN LTD. The few people that still play/defend the console at this point are guaranteed on NX day 1, be real. People who actually constitute a necessary userbase however probably don't even know what a Wii U is or rightfully wouldn't ever spend a dime on something as flawed as the Wii U. This console needs to be swept under the rug asap, artificially dragging it through another year for a few fanboys wouldn't help anyone.
If NX looks really good, they could even cancel the Wii U version of Zelda and not many people would truly make an outcry.
Actually, people bring it up all the time (rightfully so).People keep overlooking this.....
It seems too soon, not because of the WiiU situation, but because we haven´t heard about a single game for it. Nintendo stated that they thought one of the main problems with WiiU was that they left the launch window for 3rd parties and we saw how that went, launching the NX now without a proper lineup and an enticing game release schedule for the following months will be repeating the same mistakes again...
This only makes sense to me if the NX is truly a hybrid (prettu much confirmed at this point) and this release is only of the hanheld component, with the home console to come a bit later.
10 - 12m units in 2016?
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Lol?
For most people, the last Nintendo console they bought was the Wii 7 years ago.
As long as they don't announce Wii U Three, they got a good shot at whatever they come out withNX is doomed the second they announce a price. The PS4 and XO are already under £250 with big games included. I saw Wii U's most common Black Friday deal was Mario Kart and Splatoon for £225. If they can't compete with their current system how on earth will a new piece of hardware at a higher cost entice customers. They've lost the casual GTA/Fifa market forever and thats where a lot of the industries money comes from. People who like games but don't love them.
Then I am excited.I for one am excited.
Then I am excited.
For most people, the last Nintendo consoel they bought was the Wii 7 years ago.
I for one am excited.
It's not killer apps that they are missing, it's good 3rd party support. Good 1st party output only gets you so far.
But blu is excited too.But he's always excited.
Me too.
I for one am excited.
Me too.
Sometimes I wonder if the Wii U was intended as a stopgap of sorts. The unified platform has probably been in the works for a long time - Iwata has been dropping hints for years, and didn't the new development building start five years ago? And if the NX handheld and console can interact, the UPad could make sense as a transition, as well as the large number of Wii/Wii U ports on the 3DS. Maybe Nintendo expected they could ride this generation out and coast until the NX was ready.if you frame everything in the context of 'wii u is a failure and it needs immediate help, but nx is the biggest priority,' things start making more sense. the wii u was a known failure inside nintendo as of december 2012, leading to the january 2013 direct. this was an effort to show the wii u actually had shit coming out (and should have been shown at e3 2012).
2013 is the year nintendo wildly missed all expectations for wii u. january 2014 is the earliest iwata started talking about nx. i suspect this is also when resources were being split between generations (retro and ead tokyo moving to nx) and smaller projects were put in the pipeline, leading to stuff like splatoon and super mario maker. nintendo would have known at this point when they wanted nx out, but they needed to make a big deal about their existing lineup, which they did to a fair degree of success all things considered.
regarding the numbers, i don't think the 10 million number is crazy, and it kind of reflects what the wii u and 3ds would have done if they'd hit their initial targets (and if the 3ds was out several months earlier). the 20 million number definitely is bonkers, and it's only the sort of thing i can imagine in the event that nintendo's planning several models at launch and for many more regions across the world than just japan/north america/other.