He is anti-establishment because he has never held office and doesn't give a damn about the Republican Party.
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Republicans panicking now that Trump's nomination seems like a realistic possibility
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He is anti-establishment because he has never held office and doesn't give a damn about the Republican Party.
Voysa Reezun
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Arnold won by running in a specific state as a moderate Republican who threw bones to the left like his desire to protect the environment.
That is totally different from the current Trump situation.
teruterubozu
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Plus he was married to a Kennedy.
The Republican party as it was known is dead. Trump is exactly what Republican voters want. Well at least many of them.
Year and years of what was bubbling in that party has come out wide in the open because Trump doesn't care about saying things behind closed doors. He saying what many Republican voters have been thinking for awhile.
IdreamofHIME
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Bill ain't a hand floater, that's for sure.
I don't know how much crossover there is between Trump supporters and the tea party. Maybe if they renamed it the T
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Unknown Soldier
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The dissolution of the Republican Party would benefit literally everyone on Earth.
Rebel Leader
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I don't understand how people think trump will get things done when both parties are against him.
Obama can barely get things done with 1 party against him.
Obama can barely get things done with 1 party against him.
He's tapping into the most hateful people in their party, and it turns out there's a whole lot of them.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
While it's certainly possible, the ramifications of doing so could be quite interesting.
Rebel Leader
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Dr. Frankenstein lost control of the monster he created
I'm getting flashbacks to 2011 political ads just looking at that.
I'm expecting Trump to crash and burn eventually, and then I don't know where things will go.
At this point I'm expecting Marco Rubio to pull ahead quite a ways throughout the winter. Carson drop will probably level off. I find Ted Cruz to be the most terrifying player right now, so hopefully he crashes too. Jeb may still yet get an upswing, but he'll need some significant shift of a platform and backing by the Republican base.
Maybe, but I kind of see the before-the-primaries time period as completely separate from the after-the-primaries time period. People will forget and move to support the nominee (assuming it's an establishment candidate supported by the party). All of this seems really important now, but if he isn't chosen it'll just be trivia in a few years.
In fact I think Trump winning the nomination would be far more interesting. As someone who wants to see the dems take the general, this would be ideal for a number of reasons. The chance he could win is smaller than the traditional republican establishment candidates and it would throw the party into a pretty tough position.
Rentahamster
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If Trump does get the nomination, I doubt it'll be a blowout in the general like a lot of people think. He's a lot craftier than many give him credit for.
Unless he can magically trick latinos and other minorities into voting for him I don't think he'll be able to avoid the inevitable result.
But in this case Frankenstein attached himself to the monster and hopes to lead it to greatness.
Plus I imagine people that usually don't vote will vote for him because he's famous. They don't care who wins anyway because they are all the same so why not that "you're fired" guy?
teruterubozu
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Omarosa for VP
He'll get them to vote for him and he'll make them pay for it.
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Ok but first I need $6 million
I'm think about moving to another Country
Voysa Reezun
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The GOP really needs to give up and move to the left and disenfranchise their evangelical + racist base, but they would end up getting rolled for about three or four election cycles as they did it.
I guess that the problem is that they need to ride or die with the aforementioned base because ditching them now splits the party and makes us a one-party state, whereas alienating everyone who isn't white, straight, evangelical, etc., will at least keep them viable in local, state, and House elections and even in the Senate on off-years until they get some time to figure out what to do...even though I don't know what they can do except shrink and die over the next forty years.
I guess that the problem is that they need to ride or die with the aforementioned base because ditching them now splits the party and makes us a one-party state, whereas alienating everyone who isn't white, straight, evangelical, etc., will at least keep them viable in local, state, and House elections and even in the Senate on off-years until they get some time to figure out what to do...even though I don't know what they can do except shrink and die over the next forty years.
I don't give a shit alright? He can't burn it down to the ground next year as far as I'm concerned.
The US is pretty neatly divided along party lines and the last few elections have been close (in terms of popular vote). Also, Bush was reelected. Cruz and Trump are pretty damn unelectable but I don't think anything is beyond the realm of possibility in Merikuh.
The real Republican base is sexists and racists? If you still think backwater hillbilly's and white supremacists represent the Republican party you're an imbecile.
Keep up the cool generalizations though, this thread doesn't have enough as it is.
#TRUMP 2016
Mr. Pointy
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And the script was written by Max Landis.
BennyBlanco
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I'm with you in that I would love to see Rubio get the nom but it's looking like a long shot now
Bush won 50% of the Hispanic vote.
This is your BEST CASE map if Trump is the nominee. As in, Hillary runs a mediocre campaign, the economy stalls, etc:
Here is Hillary's best case map. As in, she runs a flawless campaign, the economy continues to slowly improve, Obama runs at 46%-48% approval, Trump continues to be Trump and maybe says something so inflammatory about Hillary in public that it comes off as brazenly sexist:
It would also mean that even Senate and House Republicans who were considered safe would face longer odds if their challengers could complete full sentences.
Here is Hillary's best case map. As in, she runs a flawless campaign, the economy continues to slowly improve, Obama runs at 46%-48% approval, Trump continues to be Trump and maybe says something so inflammatory about Hillary in public that it comes off as brazenly sexist:
It would also mean that even Senate and House Republicans who were considered safe would face longer odds if their challengers could complete full sentences.
TheLaughingStock
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If you bring back the current crop of establishment Republicans, then you're going end up with the same problem. They repeat things over and over about being tough, Obama, gov't takeovers of health care, trickle down economics, inflation spiraling out of control, climate change, etc.
Voysa Reezun
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If this were a popular vote, I'd be more worried, but the electoral map makes it VERY hard for any Republican to get to 270. Trump has pissed so many people off that he'll struggle to get to 170.
Now I need to make a Clinton-Trump map to show what I think would happen. I think Trump might hit 173 on a map, but he's not doing better than McCain did against Obama if he's running against Clinton.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
I know I wouldn't want Cruz. Way too theocratic for my tastes.
Perhaps, but I'd expect him to have something planned for a general election strategy. I don't think it'll be a blowout.
Trump captures the "not a politician" sentiment pretty well, but it remains to be seen if it'll actually get those slackers to register and vote.
Thank you, at least I'll be able to sleep tonight.
teruterubozu
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What? Texas in a best case scenario? More like a complete fantasy scenario. Not sure you can make a case with 2 insane extremes.
This is your BEST CASE map if Trump is the nominee. As in, Hillary runs a mediocre campaign, the economy stalls, etc:
Here is Hillary's best case map. As in, she runs a flawless campaign, the economy continues to slowly improve, Obama runs at 46%-48% approval, Trump continues to be Trump and maybe says something so inflammatory about Hillary in public that it comes off as brazenly sexist:
It would also mean that even Senate and House Republicans who were considered safe would face longer odds if their challengers could complete full sentences.
Arizona Blue? I like the way that looks!
Veritigo_X
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Gotta love that "I'm not up for reelection" attitude.
krackerjack
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If Texas went for Hillary I would have to take my buddy to the hospital.
He really can't strategize around demographics.
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