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Francis Ford Coppola says George Lucas's attachment to Star Wars was "A Pity"

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The Conversation, The Godfather Part I & II, Apocalypse Now

I feel like The Conversation gets forgotten, or people just haven't seen it, which is a shame because it's incredible.

Also, Coppola did some admirable work in the 80's, but it just wasn't anywhere near what came before.
 
I'm losing my mind. Somehow I got mixed up and thought Kubrick directed Apocalypse Now. I've even seen all of the special features for Apocalypse Now and I thought that was Kubrick the whole time. Holy shit.

Kubrick made an inferior Vietnam movie, full metal jacket
 

MMarston

Was getting caught part of your plan?
I'm losing my mind. Somehow I got mixed up and thought Kubrick directed Apocalypse Now. I've even seen all of the special features for Apocalypse Now and I thought that was Kubrick the whole time. Holy shit.
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can't say i blame ya
 

jtb

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This isn't news. Coppola and Lucas are (were?) close friends, no? Initially they were closer than Lucas and Spielberg, I think.

Coppola could make a hundred shitty movies and still be an all time great for his work in the 70s.
 
I do wonder what that alternate world would be like. Where Star Wars flopped and George Lucas, instead of being corrupted by the corporate monster Star Wars became, had to fall back on his filmmaking.

Though honestly, I doubt he'd have become some sort of lost genius. Still, I wonder...
 

Kwixotik

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How many times have I been talking about Apocalypse Now with someone and namedropped Kubrick and nobody corrected me? Aghhhhh
 

richiek

steals Justin Bieber DVDs
I feel like The Conversation gets forgotten, or people just haven't seen it, which is a shame because it's incredible.

Also, Coppola did some admirable work in the 80's, but it just wasn't anywhere near what came before.

Yeah, Coppola was a movie god in the 70s, but after that it was downhill from there.
 
Eat it. Coppola earned the right to produce nothing but shit after draining all his mental juices on the masterpiece that is Apocalypse Now.

He's a hundred times the filmmaker Lucas ever was.

And American Graffiti is overrated as all fuck. Lucas made one great film not called Star Wars in THX.

One From the Heart is a giant misfire that's still better than everything Lucas has put out otherwise.
Good sir, I will NOT eat it!

Godfather III is exactly the same terrible latecoming franchise cash-in that Coppola is accusing Lucas of making with the prequels.

Of course, you are correct that Coppola is a better filmmaker and that American Graffiti is overrated. But eat it? Why I never!
 
Lucas himself said basically the same shit in the commentary for Episode III, I believe.



First I've heard of it.

I've had a couple of film instructors talk about them. They claimed that Lucas never stopped making the same type of shorts that he made at USC. He also has tons of scripts written but he doesn't want to make anything anymore so they just sit in his house.


One of those instructors is a famous film theorist that is friends with Lucas.
 
Anyone here, who has never directed anything, can say something much more critical than this (and this is not really critical at all) about Lucas and not catch any kind of heat for it. And Coppola is his friend even, and really helped Lucas out early on.
 

Blader

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I've had a couple of film instructors talk about them. They claimed that Lucas never stopped making the same type of shorts that he made at USC. He also has tons of scripts written but he doesn't want to make anything anymore so they just sit in his house.


One of those instructors is a famous film theorist that is friends with Lucas.

That instructor's name?

Albert Einstein
 

Shig

Strap on your hooker ...
I wish he'd have continued as more of a benefactor, not so much a director. He had a great streak through the 80s throwing his backing behind interesting projects like Indy/Young Indy, Labyrinth, Land Before Time, and establishing Lucasarts, then the 90's rolled around and he seemed to just go into hibernation until the prequels rolled around.
 
I've had a couple of film instructors talk about them. They claimed that Lucas never stopped making the same type of shorts that he made at USC. He also has tons of scripts written but he doesn't want to make anything anymore so they just sit in his house.


One of those instructors is a famous film theorist that is friends with Lucas.

Well shit. I'm glad this thread exists solely for this bit of business. Thanks man.
 
He's lamenting that George didn't make more movies over the years and they are completely flipping it around to somehow say he thinks George is a shit director.
I was more saying that he's just as guilty of decade-crossing franchise milking, and has made enough clunkers, that he's not the best critic. Lucas wanted to make the movies, so he did. I don't think he needed the money. I hate them, and they're awful, but they're what he wanted to do. Francis hasn't fared much better since the 90s, so...
 

MercuryLS

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He's right. It seems like it killed his love for movies too

He never went back to something like thx or american graffiti again

Smh at the moronic posts in this thread

This. He's right, and Coppola directed GF1/2, the greatest movies ever made. He can say whatever he wants, no amount of stinkers can erase those monumental achievements.
 
At this point Francis Ford Coppola has about 30 straight years of shitty irrelevant movies under his belt. Seems like a bad idea to start acting disappointed about some other director's career.
 
I was more saying that he's just as guilty of decade-crossing franchise milking, and has made enough clunkers, that he's not the best critic. Lucas wanted to make the movies, so he did. I don't think he needed the money. I hate them, and they're awful, but they're what he wanted to do. Francis hasn't fared much better since the 90s, so...

he made one godfather too many. but somehow he's guilty of decade crossing franchise milking.

okay.

Still doesn't invalidate his opinion though.
 
Coppola directed Captain EO. CAPTAIN EO. He can say anything he wants.

He's total buddies with Lucas, I think he just wishes he did more than Star Wars, back then I think he could have done some things, now days i'm not so sure.

Would actually love to see Lucas try something else.
 
I was more saying that he's just as guilty of decade-crossing franchise milking, and has made enough clunkers, that he's not the best critic. Lucas wanted to make the movies, so he did. I don't think he needed the money. I hate them, and they're awful, but they're what he wanted to do. Francis hasn't fared much better since the 90s, so...
Are you comparing making one new director's cut of one movie, and having made a trilogy of movies, to the unique and massive monolith of products and tie-ins that is Star Wars, which taught the entire film industry what making a franchise is really about and basically was the end of George Lucas making anything else?

He enjoys Lucas' work and wish he kept making movies. And Coppolla kept making movies, not that it matters at all since he wasn't criticizing his abilities (which you still claim for some reason) and wouldn't even need to be a director to rightfully make this observation.

Nowhere does he trash Star Wars. He used his clout to help make Star Wars happen iirc. The whole thing is a compliment to Lucas.
 
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