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Star Wars: The Force Awakens |OT| A New Hope

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guek

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Episode I was a crazy time for a Star Wars (or even movie) fan. A lot of people wrote Episode I off as 'necessary buildup' for the upcoming epic 2 & 3. After those two movies ended up being shit I think people looked back on Episode I with a lot of cringe.

I still don't think Ep I is nearly as bad as people make it out to be. There's a ton of stuff that's just god awful but ya know what? There's a shit ton to love too. I don't think it's a great movie by any stretch of the imagination but it's not a catastrophe either. That denomination would go to Ep II for me.
 

Trurl

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Episode I was a crazy time for a Star Wars (or even movie) fan. A lot of people wrote Episode I off as 'necessary buildup' for the upcoming epic 2 & 3. After those two movies ended up being shit I think people looked back on Episode I with a lot of cringe.
Was episode 1 the first time a movie was given a "build up" excuse? It seems fairly common now.
 

kingocfs

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Watched Jedi last night for the first time in a while and it's worse than I remember. A lot of it is dreadfully boring.

JJ could have made this the third best one with his eyes closed, I'm not at all worried about TFA.
 

GAMEPROFF

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I still don't think Ep I is nearly as bad as people make it out to be. There's a ton of stuff that's just god awful but ya know what? There's a shit ton to love too. I don't think it's a great movie by any stretch of the imagination but it's not a catastrophe either. That denomination would go to Ep II for me.

Attack of the clones was way worse.
 

Aiii

So not worth it
I still don't think Ep I is nearly as bad as people make it out to be. There's a ton of stuff that's just god awful but ya know what? There's a shit ton to love too. I don't think it's a great movie by any stretch of the imagination but it's not a catastrophe either. That denomination would go to Ep II for me.

I and II both rank somewhere in between Jumper and I Am Number Four. Nobody would remember they even existed if weren't called Star Wars.

III gets too much hate, though, that was a flawed, but fun movie.
 

Interfectum

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Why is Rian Johnson directing the other movies and not JJ or any other director?

Episode 7: JJ
Episode 8: Rian Johnson (looper)
Episode 9: Colin Trevorrow (Jurassic World)

They want the movies to feel like the original trilogy and have their own identity. I'd bet anything Episode 8 ends up being the fan favorite. Johnson is going to kill it.
 
Why is Rian Johnson directing the other movies and not JJ or any other director?

Partly because of how draining it is, but I also think with as big a fan of SW as JJ is he looks at the structure of the OT and realizes it's good to have other directors take the reigns. He was involved in mapping out the whole trilogy anyway.
 

fastmower

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Well Episode 8 was in pre-production before they'd even finished post-production on this one and JJ didn't want to do another one.



Really? I'd say Rian's a really interesting choice.
Oops. I was thinking of the Jurassic Park dude. Never mind. Episode 8 should be great even though I didn't care for Brick.
 

d1rtn4p

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I kinda like the idea of Johnson doing episode 8. I think it sets us up real well for another odd, Empire Strikes Back like middle movie. I'm really worried about Episode 9 though...Thought Jurassic World was a mess.
 

Trurl

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Watched Jedi last night for the first time in a while and it's worse than I remember. A lot of it is dreadfully boring.

JJ could have made this the third best one with his eyes closed, I'm not at all worried about TFA.
Of the three main actors, Mark Hamill is the person who seems to care in Jedi. Compare him and Fisher during the forest chase scene.
 
JJ also didn't want to spend a whole decade doing solely star wars, in London, away from his family and friends. So that played into why he is one and done, too.

I agree. I love his contributions to Breaking Bad. I haven't seen looper yet.

Looper is pretty cool. If it makes folks feel any better, go check out who directed TESB and ROTJ. It's not like these films require the best of the best to make them work.
 

Aiii

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So when you play the Star Wars playlist on Spotify, this happens:

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I lol'ed.
 

Interfectum

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I kinda like the idea of Johnson doing episode 8. I think it sets us up real well for another odd, Empire Strikes Back like middle movie. I'm really worried about Episode 9 though...Thought Jurassic World was a mess.

I think they are trying to mimic the original trilogy with all three movies. Episode 7 is the most 'normal' Star Wars style movie, then the 'weird' Episode 8, ending with the bombastic, big budget finish of Episode 9.

And I think Jurassic World's issues were in the writing. The directing of the movie seemed good enough.
 

fastmower

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JJ also didn't want to spend a whole decade doing solely star wars, in London, away from his family and friends. So that played into why he is one and done, too.



Looper is pretty cool. If it makes folks feel any better, go check out who directed TESB and ROTJ. It's not like these films require the best of the best to make them work.
I can agree with that. The screenplay is the most important, IMO.
 

Blader

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Why is Rian Johnson directing the other movies and not JJ or any other director?

Because directing one Star Wars movie is exhausting as hell, and it's logistically impossible for JJ to do VIII and/or IX without pushing those movies back for a year or two, each.
 
I kinda like the idea of Johnson doing episode 8. I think it sets us up real well for another odd, Empire Strikes Back like middle movie. I'm really worried about Episode 9 though...Thought Jurassic World was a mess.

Sums up my thoughts on this trilogy pretty much. I feel like Johnson can totally put out a film very similar to ESB, similar to how JJ could match ANH. IX is such a wild card put with Johnson writing it and Kennedy/Abrams having input I feel like it should be almost director-proof at that point.
 

fastmower

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I think they are trying to mimic the original trilogy with all three movies. Episode 7 is the most 'normal' Star Wars style movie, then the 'weird' Episode 8, ending with the bombastic, big budget finish of Episode 9.
This makes a lot of sense. I'm really curious to see how creative they get with episode VIII now. I hope they aren't to conservative.
 

SomTervo

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He was a guy with eclectic tastes but I respected his opinion. I more often than not did not see eye to eye with him but the man could articulate his views rather well enough that I enjoyed reading his stuff even while smh in disagreement.

Same here. Absolutely.

He's just still confusing T_T would have loved to have a conversation with the guy.
 

Cindres

Vied for a tag related to cocks, so here it is.
Worth saying that if I'm not mistaken Rian Johnson has been around for VII filming too? I know they've got the director for IX hanging around on set and involved in VIII for the handover so they can all play off each other.
 

90sRobots

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The aesthetic and tone is going to be so etched in by Episode IX that you get a Brett Ratner-type like Colin Treverrow. He can jump in and do Lucasfilm's bidding a-ok!

Ratner's X-Men is the best of the first three X-Men movies.
 

fastmower

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Worth saying that if I'm not mistaken Rian Johnson has been around for VII filming too? I know they've got the director for IX hanging around on set and involved in VIII for the handover so they can all play off each other.
I never thought I would be so happy to have Star Wars in the hands of Disney.
 
The aesthetic and tone is going to be so etched in by Episode IX that you get a Brett Ratner-type like Colin Treverrow. He can jump in and do Lucasfilm's bidding a-ok!

Ratner's X-Men is the best of the first three X-Men movies.

whoa there cowboy, lets not say things we'll regret. I agree that it's more important that the framework be there so that anyone can slide in and nail the last film but I wont stand here and let you say crazy things
 

mattp

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Harrison Ford suffers from social anxiety disorder? Woah, I can relate to him then. It was be a little hard turning up for these interviews then.

if you notice, he's always MUCH more comfortable in 1 on 1 interviews
anytime he's in front of an audience is when he gets weird
 

90sRobots

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Singer's first two X-movies are dreary, joyless slogs. The Last Stand meanwhile is a LIFE BE IN IT X-Men yarn! Grammer as Beast a COMIC BOOK MOVIE HIGH POINT! That guy with the arms that grow back! Iceman vs Pyro! A director that doesn't fucking hate all the women that's in his movies! It's also like 90 minutes.
 
It seems that Gustavo Dudamel conducted the Orchestra for the opening and ending credits, Williams asked him himself. So the greatest Orchestra Director there is these days took also part in this film, amazing I want my OST already.
 
The aesthetic and tone is going to be so etched in by Episode IX that you get a Brett Ratner-type like Colin Treverrow. He can jump in and do Lucasfilm's bidding a-ok!

Ratner's X-Men is the best of the first three X-Men movies.

Everything you've said in this thread just became null and void.
 
The more important thing is Kasdan, JJ and Kennedy setting up the trilogy story arc. Each directors will have some liberties but the quality will remain. At least there seems to be a lot of communication between them, which is always good.
 
Singer's first two X-movies are dreary, joyless slogs. The Last Stand meanwhile is a LIFE BE IN IT X-Men yarn! Grammer as Beast a COMIC BOOK MOVIE HIGH POINT! That guy with the arms that grow back! Iceman vs Pyro! A director that doesn't fucking hate all the women that's in his movies! It's also like 90 minutes.

The first Xmen film was the best comic movie when it came out. It's not the greatest, but at the time it was a relief that someone kinda made an decent comic movie.

X2 is a great film, though. So i'm not entirely sure where youre coming from

X3 starts strong but then becomes worse and worse until you just want everyone dead at the end. Thank goodness for the Singer-led reboot.
 
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